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<0> what would be a good choice for POP3 and IMAP server software?
<1> gamkiller, KDM..? :P
<0> yeah, KDM works well
<0> that's what I use on desktop systems
<0> slackware will automatically use KDM unless you configure it otherwise
<2> gamkiller: gdb is not part of kde / gnome :)
<1> that's why he wanted kdm
<0> I'm trying to decide on POP/IMAP server software. Currently, I'm considering Dovecot, GNU Mailutils, and Courier. Any suggestions or opinions?
<2> courier
<0> any reason inparticular?
<2> well, i found it better than cyrus-mail
<2> dovecot is out of date
<2> i mean there is no further development planned afaik
<0> okay, I'll rule dovecot out then
<2> gnu mailutils - i don't know about this one.
<0> the site was kinda iffy on the english anyway



<0> yeah, with GNU software you never really know... sometimes it's real good, other times it's lacking
<2> i'm off to the bed. good night.
<0> thanks for the suggestion
<2> damn, it's cold here. i shouldn't do soldering before sleeping :(
<1> Coder7, Postfix is good I think
<0> postfix doesn't do IMAP/POP, it handles the SMTP end of things
<1> Oh, I didn't know that
<0> I'm using Exim for the SMTP end, I just had not decided on the POP/IMAP part
<0> I've used courier before, but only as part of a very complex qmail setup. I wasn't sure if anything better was out there.
<3> I'm P1MP, I use uw-imap, or somethin'
<4> anyone around that uses jabber?
<3> I sorta do
<3> I use gtalk, which is a jabber server
<1> ****ing failing to sleep
<1> err, wrong channel, heh
<5> It's another slow night...
<2> morning
<6> morning
<6> Men heh
<6> KDE is slick ;)
<2> ****!
<2> ****ing 2.6 kernel!
<2> i mean ****ed
<2> it doesn't matter! it's weird!
<2> gamkiller: do i need something more than usb m*** storage support to get my usb card reader working?
<2> roar!
<6> depends on the reader
<6> fika
<6> *runs off
<2> thanks for the help
<2> i don't see any drivers around
<2> ok, where are devs under 2.6.x?
<2> i mean usb devs
<2> never mind
<2> i'm going to reboot. i feel like i'm on windows or **** like that
<2> hmm
<2> ok, windows it is. i really don't have ****ing time to beg Linux to let me use my card reader.
<2> i think it's time to say good bye and wave to Linux.
<2> ...at least for me.
<6> jack-home: it really depends on the card reader, as anything else.
<2> gamkiller: depends? and how?
<2> what should i do to make it work?
<2> it's just frigged usb m*** storage
<2> it works just fine in 2.4.x line
<2> usb-storage: device found at 2
<2> usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
<2> usbcore: registered new interface driver libusual
<2> usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid
<2> drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.6:USB HID core driver
<2> scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access Myson CS8819A2-110 0 1.01 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS
<2> sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sda
<2> sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
<2> usb-storage: device scan complete
<2> i guess that means it works
<6> wthen what's the problem?
<2> but it doesn't
<2> what's the problem? problem is that 2.6 is ****ed to the sky.
<6> how are you trying to mount it, and what are you trying to mount?



<2> i don't even know what do mount
<2> does sda look like block device to you?
<6> How the **** should I know?
<6> you posted that it is
<2> mount /dev/sg0 /mnt/somewhere; mount: /dev/sg0 is not a block device
<6> nono
<6> sda0.
<6> or just sda even
<2> there is no sda0
<6> and sda?
<2> sda: no medium found
<6> is there anything else of interest in the other logs?
<2> it's a multireader. so, what if there is more than one card?
<2> no
<2> nothing.
<2> i wouldn't yell if there was something.
<6> which kernel version?
<2> 2.6.19.1
<6> sigh.
<6> ok well
<6> it seems like the cardreader is fully supported
<6> but
<6> which card are you trying to read?
<2> cf
<6> no extra logs if you remove and reinsert the card?
<2> no, nothing.
<6> Did you uh
<2> yes, i did.
<6> enable all the CF reader support stuff in the kernel?
<2> no, i did not. i don't know why i should do that.
<6> even if your reader is supported, the specific CF chipset inside it might not be.
<2> it's a multireader thing. what will i do if i'm going to read xd, sd, whatever?
<6> well have you tried if anything else works?
<6> like sd?
<2> i have just cf :)
<6> exactly
<6> and the only thing that requires extra support in the kernel is CF stuff
<6> I have no idea if it will help
<6> I've never owned CF.
<6> But I've never had problems with SD or Memstick PRO on multicard readers. Except on PPC.
<6> I certainly understand your frustration though.
<6> I would also at the same time enable verbose m*** storage debugging.
<2> cf?
<2> extra support? may i ask where?
<2> afaik sd is the one who has extra support. i haven't seen any cf readers there.
<6> Device drivers -> USB support -> USB M*** Storage Support -\
<2> a lot of SM / SD, ATAPI/IDE ... no cf at all
<2> oh, microtech cf
<2> one
<6> Datafab, Microtech, SanDisk, Lexar and shared table
<6> you're not reading the text
<6> read it
<6> heh
<6> "Compact Flash" = CF :).
<2> ok, three of them :)
<6> four
<2> three
<6> plus shared table, being 5.
<6> four.
<6> maybe you don't have experimental crap enabled.
<6> but yeah
<6> enable all that stuff
<6> and USB M*** Storage verbose debug
<2> i have
<6> if that doesn't work, then kick and scream and start throwing things around.
<2> will that help?
<2> :)
<6> No but it will make you feel better.
<6> :).
<2> and did it help?
<2> off course it did not
<6> Then I'm out of ideas
<6> I'd have to say..
<6> piece of ****.


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