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<0> It's another slow night...
<1> has anyone heard of the OSSTMM certs or the SANS cl***es? looking for opinions on both
<2> SANS are quite primo
<2> but there's a lot of them
<1> let me grab the info on the one I might be going to
<1> 504 Hacker Techniques, Exploits & Incident Handling
<2> are you looking for methodologies?
<1> well, yes
<2> i would recommend the NSA-IAM and IEM courses... check out security horizon
<2> the guys there are top notch
<1> I'm looking to actually learn something, don't want to shell out money for stuff that isn't good
<2> the IAM/IEM are very reasonably priced, you can take them in tandem to save travel expenses
<1> what is "reasonably priced"?
<2> a couple grand
<2> actually
<1> not having much luck finding prices on their site
<2> they're like $1k each
<2> it's on the schedule page
<2> http://www.securityhorizon.com/IAM.php
<1> and compared to SANS, would you say these are better, less-than, or equal-to?
<3> "No, no, do the goldfish!" ejaculated the blind home-coming queen as the mush-brained rakehell diddled her bovine buttocks and ripped his miniscule jackhammer into her banana stuffed honeypot.
<3> cat: lol: No such file or directory
<3> Ok, however weird this might sound, my cat just walked down on my keyboard and pushed a lot of buttons. Sorry. :)
<2> hahahahahahha
<2> Coder7: they're in a different league... more targetted, very specific info
<1> well, that SANS course is going to be offered in my back yard (i.e., no travel expenses), and I get it discounted to $895
<2> ah, then go for that
<1> have you actually taken any SANS courses?
<1> I'm mainly wanting to know what the quality is, I hate going to cl***es/workshops where the information is worthless
<2> i haven't, but i know a lot of people who have, they're definitely one of the most recommended
<4> Hello, who can I play my .IMG file? I tryed to first mount the .IMG file then play it with mplayer, but when I mount it I have two dirs ( audio_ts video_ts )
<0> I need a drink
<5> You and me both you tincan.
<6> good morning guys
<7> i did some further testing on slackware remote upgrade, and it seems that after you execute telinit 1, it kills the crond process...any other ways to do it?
<8> set crond to run in runlevel 1
<7> just mkdir /etc/rc1.d and place crond runscript in there?
<7> nm
<7> thanks for help mogi
<9> m0o
<10> evening.
<9> m0o
<9> mogi!
<10> hooo hooo hoo
<10> i think i'm beginning alcoholic.
<11> jack, stop it. alcoholism bad.
<10> nous: indeed i should do so. it's not bad i drink alcohol, but it's bad i'm drinking it at home and alone.
<0> hmm jack-home, hmm, drinking.. GOOD!
<10> infoslack: you are the man!
<0> I might know later on.
<3> jack-home, how much do you drink? and enjoying a couple of drinks alone isn't that bad imho.
<11> it's more about the reasons why you drink
<10> tech-: not much really ... i think.
<10> i have no reason. i just want to ... for taste. the problem is that i don't know how to drink 'for taste' so i get drunk pretty quick ... :]
<3> jack-home, drink slowly, mix drinks with less alcohol (if you mix)
<10> tech-: i do mix. but ... see ... ie. drinking whisky alone: it would take me a century to drink whole bottle of whisky. but with cola-like, i would drink it in less than one day. do you get the point?
<0> hmm jack-home, hmm, drinking.. GOOD!
<3> but drink it slowly! :)
<3> if you drink slowly you will also feel when you get drunk so you know when to slow down
<10> i think that's why americans drink bourbone or bourbone & soda (| whisky) ... for taste, because they are not able to drink it quick :)
<10> what i like about drinking at home: get little drunk(not like in the pub), sobbering; and then i'm able to be wake up whole night and do stuff i would normaly never done.
<0> jack-home hmm, drinking.. GOOD!
<3> jack-home, i enjoy hacking while drunk ;)
<10> i'm almost sure i have some problems inside me ... something i can't see myself. may be my loneliness
<10> who knows. my mother just said it's dangerous to drink alone.
<10> that's all.
<2> i haven't had a drink in a while
<2> just haven't felt like it
<3> i can't drink, i'm on a diet
<3> i can drink in a few weeks but then only low-carb drinks, and that's not much good i think =/
<10> yeah tech-, that's what i told myself too. but then i said 'what the hell'
<3> jack-home, drinking alone - that is fine, shouldn't be dangerous, but drinking when depressed mgiht be another matter, but i'm unsure, haven't really tried that much
<0> tech-, hmm, drinking.. GOOD!
<3> but i think you might just make the depression worse
<10> i know. hmm ... i don't know why i drink.
<3> meh enjoying alcohol is great, and if it makes you feel better, then why not
<2> that's one reason i'm not drinking... i'm depressed and it doesn't make me feel better
<0> octalpuss, hmm, drinking.. GOOD!
<10> octalpuss: you're always depressed
<3> i get depressed easily, but easily happy too
<2> jack-home: yeah, i don't know why
<2> everything is going really well
<2> well, except i'm not dating
<2> and not meeting anyone worth dating
<2> but that's hardly new
<10> that's why i'm single
<10> women worth of dating are: not interested in me; not interested in man at all; i don't know any
<3> women i see worth dating; are incredibly rare and are not interested in dating me ;)
<3> ... *sigh*
<10> yep :)
<3> i know a few women though that are exactly like what i'm looking for, but hey, the last part steps in
<2> everyone always says they're hot on geek chicks
<2> but if that were the case, i wouldn't have this problem
<3> hmm, i'm glad i'm not able to drink now, becuase i just got depressed
<10> octalpuss: what are you talking about?
<10> tech-: what are you talking about?
<10> what are you talking about?
<11> wow
<2> nous: wanna join our pity party? =o)
<11> did it get all emo in here?
<11> not really
<3> jack-home, i'm ranting about my emoness
<2> it did indeed
<2> jack-home: me too
<11> i'm actually doing pretty well lately
<2> so am i
<10> huh? i don't get you ... both of you.
<2> what?
<11> i haven't had a panic attack in over a month
<10> octalpuss: what did you mean?
<2> we can't be bummed about being single?
<3> jack-home, why
<11> people just need more hugs
<2> i don't think i've had one since new years
<2> i definitely need more hugs
<2> i haven't been down to portland much lately, that's where i get my hugs
<11> why no portland?
<2> been on the mountain every weekend
<11> jack, from what i've seen, you're having trouble with work and school and stuff. probably you'd drink less if you weren't having those problems. is there anything you can do to fix them?
<3> i think there's also a part about loneliness, forgive me if i'm wrong
<10> nous: i like to make things 'bigger'. i just capitalise things. it's not so 'hot'.
<3> (i have both of those problems myself)
<11> loneliness can make all those things seem worse
<2> people in seattle aren't very friendly
<2> i mean, i have lots of friends here, but not the sort of friends who will come over and snuggle and watch movies
<2> it's all rockstar here... drink drink drink drink drink
<2> and worry about how you look while you're doing it
<11> wow... that sounds stimulating
<2> it's defcon with jobs
<3> octalpuss, like big parties? i tend to like smaller ones better (like 5 people or osmething)
<11> that's the feeling i got about the whole thing
<10> octalpuss: hmm ... may i come over and watch movies with you?
<12> people are trying to look cool at defcon?
<11> not my bag
<2> not even parties... we just go bar hopping in small crowds
<10> nous: i hate 'psychologic' girls ...trully.
<2> jack-home: anytime :-)
<2> nous: mine either, really
<11> jack, i'm not sure what you mean
<2> unfortunately it's good for my career
<0> octalpuss, unf unf unf
<10> octalpuss: anytime i get money or you will move to EU.
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