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<0> asdf
<0> #exit
<1> how do I patch my system with security updates?
<2> just download packages and update by running upgradepkg
<2> and good night
<1> oh
<1> so in order to stay updated I need to go through all packages in patches and upgrade all that I have installed on my system?
<3> if all you are worried about is security, just subscribe to the security mailing list
<3> or read the advisories on slackware.com
<3> or the changelog for your stable tree
<4> when is 11.0 scheduled for release
<4> please be kind
<1> mogi: I just want my system to be updated with all security patches
<3> I understood that
<1> I have a fresh 10.2 install, and I want all updates. I don't have to read all advisories for them, do I?
<3> not everything in patches/ is a security update



<3> and not all the packages apply to all systems
<1> oh i see
<1> what kind of patches is not security updates?
<3> it all depends on what you have installed and how you have it configured
<3> some are bug fixes or minor permissions changes that got botched during the original package build, and were caught after the version release
<3> others are simply new versions of applications
<1> ok, so security patches are announced on the mailing list. How about the bugfixes, are there a mailinglist for that?
<3> you can just read the changelog for those
<1> ok.
<1> Well, since the changelog mentions the security updates too, I guess I'll just read that one. And maybe some advisories :)
<1> thanks for the help
<5> hi mogi
<6> hey guys
<6> problem here
<6> xmms keeps losing it's ability to produce sound for some reason
<6> but the console beeps still work
<5> what more do you need?
<6> for example, when i backspace too far in a terminal window
<6> it beeps
<5> internal speaker is all that's needed
<6> i tried using one of the other mutlimedia players that i have, and they are facing the same problem
<5> I don't think it has anything to do with xmms obviously
<6> right
<5> since xmms is just a frontend
<6> here's the thing
<6> everything works when i reboot
<6> for a little while
<6> so i'm confused as to what is changing
<5> are you using alsa or oss
<6> i believe also
<6> oops
<6> alsa
<3> you have something using the sound device
<3> set everything to use alsa
<3> and kill any sound daemons running
<6> right
<6> how do i find the sound daemons?
<5> it's the porn movie that you have playing in firefox probably
<6> haha
<6> actually i run opera
<5> oh that's why
<5> they were mad they never made tons of money off a browser
<6> haha
<6> but how do i locate the sound daemons?
<5> we only like to provide direction
<5> not instructions
<6> yeah
<6> i should really start acting more like i use linux
<7> I turned up the debugging on both dovecot and postgres
<7> dovecot is actually making a query, which does return one user:p*** pair
<6> i got lazy after a year
<7> and then refusing authentication :/
<6> so ***uming that it is my sound daemon
<6> how do i fix it?
<6> can i reinstall/patch it or what?
<6> also, my console beeps are redirected through my speakers, so why don't my multimedia players work?
<6> any ideas?
<7> you could try `lsof` and see if anything has /dev/audio or /dev/dsp or whatever open
<7> and if so, kill it
<3> reboot!



<3> it fixes all problems
<6> tried rebooting
<6> the problems just show up again
<7> did you try any of the other stuff?
<6> yeah
<6> i haven't looked through all of it yet
<7> also does anyone have any ideas re dovecot-postgres? :/ I can't think of anything
<6> apparently there are a lot of things open
<6> ummm
<6> how do i do the more command?
<6> i forgot how to for some reason
<6> i tried lsof || more
<6> but that didn't work quite right
<7> lsof | more
<7> but you probably want something like 'lsof |grep dev'
<6> aewsome
<6> can i run that in conjunction with the more command?
<6> lsof | grep dev | more
<6> ?
<7> sure
<6> awesome
<6> alright
<6> i don't have anynthing listed as when i grep for dsp
<6> sound brings up libasound.so.2.0.0
<7> and audio?
<6> brings up
<6> xineplug_dmx_audio.so
<6> and
<6> xineplug_decode_real_audio.so
<6> those are being used by amarok
<6> and libaudiofile.so.0.0.2
<6> and libcdaudio.so
<6> are being used by xmms
<3> for some reason, I don't think slackware fits your skill level
<6> haha
<6> indeed
<6> actually i've been meaning to switch distros for almost a year
<3> try CentOS
<6> i just don't have time to learn as much about linux as i feel i should be
<6> but
<6> what's a good source for learning about linux, because i've been meaning to get aroundnd to it for a long while
<3> tldp.org
<6> great
<3> start with the Guides section
<6> i feel so dumb about these things
<6> i've been using linux for 3 or 4 years but haven't learned a damn thing on my own
<6> as you can tell
<3> I make a living off of it :)
<6> there you go
<6> so you should know more about it than i
<6> but anywho
<6> i've gotta go now
<6> see you guys later
<6> also, is tldp.org normally this slow?
<6> and where does CentOS fit in the spectrum of distros?
<8> centos is the free version of redhat enterprise server.
<9> Does anyone know any good channels to ask questions regarding Xwindows, specifically its startup?
<10> Hey.
<10> Does anyone know how to use a proxy with Slackware?
<10> I looked for some tutorials online, however I found nothing good.
<11> a socks proxy?
<10> Well, I just one for my browser to connet through.
<10> I just need one*.
<11> you can usually configure your browser to use a proxy directly
<11> what browser are you using?
<12> hmm.. is it common for regex implementations to not allow escape sequence in groupings?? wtf
<2> morning
<13> woot.
<13> 240 new messages.
<2> :)
<2> is that cool gamkiller?
<13> .
<13> Just went through them.


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