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<0> Hi
<0> How are you all doing?
<0> I was wondering how hard would it be just have sendmail replay all the mail to another local machine. My edit.mc file is at http://www.taylor***ociate.com/edit.txt if you would like to take a look at?
<1> hey guys
<1> u around twkm?
<2> hi
<2> i use postfix with sendmail. When i now send an e-mail 'b' it will sent the previous outgoing mail 'a', when i send another mail 'c', it will send 'b'. Its like a buffer, anyway to reset this?
<3> how do you manage to use postfix with sendmail?
<3> if you mean the sendmail command provided with postfix, then you use postfix, period, and want #postfix.
<3> cheapunix: barely.
<2> twkm: ok, since i use the service postfix ill check it again. Not a mutual tmp space problem?
<3> you use postfix. not sendmail. go somewhere else.
<2> yeah relax man, ill take it somewhere else, thx for nothing.
<4> I still love you twkm
<3> thrilling.
<5> bom dia



<6> I've got an issue w/sendmail hanging before sending, and then losing messages.
<6> I have the linux box (hostname jonathan, ip 192.168.1.79, /etc/hosts manually ***igning 192.168.1.79 to jonathan, /etc/resolv.conf having four lines, two pointing to Windows Servers acting as a DNS/DNS backup, and two pointing to AT&T servers) sending mail through php, but it is hanging for about a minute or two before going through.
<6> I've tried nslookup on the box and it works fine.
<6> Erm, nslookup www.google.com.
<3> show a set of log entries for a problem message, e.g., ''grep queueid /path/to/your/mail/log''.
<6> I also tried sendmail -bv postmaster@gmail.com from the shell and it hung for about 90 secs.
<6> grep queueid? What should queueid be?
<6> The literal string? 'cause if so there's nothing there.
<6> There is, however, a couple errors in the log.
<6> Aug 30 11:49:26 jonathan sendmail[26574]: My unqualified host name (jonathan) unknown; sleeping for retry
<7> telnet into your local server and see if it hangs before the initial welcome prompt
<6> Wow...I don't think it will accept incoming requests from port 25.
<3> that's probably good, at this point.
<3> but it should accept localhost:25
<6> Yep. Connection refused.
<6> Umm...is it SUPPOSED to say "localhost:25: Unknown host"?
<7> no, your syntax is wrong
<7> telnet localhost 25
<6> Oh yeah..hehe
<6> Yeah, still refused.
<7> btw, the whole :port thing will go the way of the dodo
<6> But..."Trying 127.0.0.1..." \n "telnet: connect to address 127.0.0.1: Connection refused"
<7> check netstat to see if it's listening
<7> hi twkm
<3> howdy spork
<3> Aragorn16: yes i mean a queue-id, as taken from ''mailq | head'' for instance.
<6> It shows only 1 active connection (my SSH), and a bunch of other unix protocols. Are there any parameters I should include?
<8> that breakfast was too heavy. i already want a nap and it's only 10am.
<7> haha
<8> hey spork
<7> hi msk
<7> how goes it?
<6> spork: mailq hangs for a while, still haven't gotten a response.
<9> msk, what about _res?
<8> spork: groggy
<8> sub: there's still an issue?
<9> Yes, you never decided what you would do
<9> Which means I have to do a bunch of patches
<9> You were looking for a cleaner solution
<9> I'll ask you again after the nap
<7> sub _res ?
<9> spork BIND
<7> what about BIND
<9> Using res in a milter, spork
<7> whats the problem now?
<9> No problem at all. msk needs to decide on a patch
<7> oh
<7> I hacked up my milter client library to support that
<7> like a year ago =)
<9> See, you are a year ahead
<6> spork: Any other ideas? I know this is a stupid solution, it has to be...
<7> Aragorn16 post your .mc some place
<6> Wow...hold on, I found something interesting...
<7> well if you're going to add res to it, you should also add some type of acl
<7> and throttling
<9> acl for what?
<9> sendmail can do throttling
<7> yeah but if you have the server side of the milter exposed, it's nice to have limitiations on what can connection, and how fast, etc.
<9> how fast?
<7> throttling on the milter it self
<9> It's an extra h***le you can live without



<7> no, I couldn't so I added it
<7> :p
<9> Have you noticed that your box has not been down lately?
<7> keystone?
<9> Yes
<7> yeah, I donno why
<9> I think I know
<7> the only thing I've done is removed mailman
<9> I don't send you any more crap:)
<7> I don't think that's it
<7> I think it was mailman
<9> well, it stopped once I did that
<6> spork: OK, I did a mailq | head &, then ran sendmail -bv postmaster@gmail.com. After two minutes, I got this back: http://pastebot.nd.edu/316
<9> Why are you spamming gmail?
<8> sub: i thought the patch i had was working fine, what patch do you need to carry forward?
<9> msk, thinking
<7> Aragorn16 can you lookup anything on that box?
<6> Interestingly enough, michael is the name of another computer on my network, one which jonathan was modeled after.
<6> Also, what is my .mc?
<9> There was some problems with the global res
<7> Aragorn16 i.e. dig yahoo.com
<6> Yeah, lookups are fine.
<9> and the suggested fix was to avoid using that and avoid _res as well
<9> Let me check slowforge
<6> My guess is that the configuration for sendmail was copied from michael to jonathan and somewhere in jonathan it thinks it's still michael.
<8> that's the easier solution
<6> But that's just a guess.
<8> just don't use _res at all, or always load my own version of it manually
<9> Yes
<8> pisses me off that they decided to do that
<8> i just haven't had time to get near DKIM or DK for a couple of months due to commercial projects
<3> Aragorn16: sounds like michael is set as your smart host, and since your dns is non-existent ...
<6> Why do you say my DNS is non-existent?
<9> I sent you an email dated June 12
<9> Can you check that?
<9> search for FFR_RES_NINIT
<3> Aragorn16: because you have no fqdn for your host, so unless you created a tld named jonathan and another named michael you cannot possibly have working dns for what seems must be your smart host much less the sending host.
<9> It's not on sf.net btw
<6> twkm: No, the names of both of them are in the hosts file. Shouldn't that take care of it?
<9> if your system reads hosts, yes
<6> Why wouldn't it?
<6> I've never heard of a circumstance where a system doesn't.
<9> Sometimes it doesn't especially after breakfast
<3> nsswitch might specify dns first, or only.
<6> lol
<9> DNS is like magic that glues your networking or turn it into notworking
<6> So what can I do at this point? What if I go in and manually set the DNS to a specific IP?
<9> Make sure the hosts resolves
<6> Check that - I already did that (/etc/resolv.conf).
<9> see what twkm said about nsswitch
<7> HAHAHAHA
<7> -rw-rw---- 1 smmsp smmsp 2.3G Aug 30 10:12 /var/spool/clientmqueue/dfk7U6x1SK052466
<6> Yikes.
<9> You are sending DVDs by email again?
<6> sub/twkm: nsswitch..what is that? It's not a program on my machine, and it's not in any man entry either.
<3> Aragorn16: ''grep k7U6x1SK052466 /path/to/your/mail/log''
<3> Aragorn16: it is in sendmail's documentation.
<9> aragorn, some solaris stuff
<9> I think Linux uses it too
<9> What OS is it?
<6> twkm: Nothing there.
<7> sub that was all text
<6> sub: RH9.
<9> spork, broken mailer?
<7> nope
<7> verbose set to 7 on a backup script
<9> I don't recall whether Redhat uses nsswitch.conf
<7> so it listed each file it compressed, rotated, etc.
<9> you are supposed to read the 2.0 GB mail?:)
<6> Oh yeah, here it is, right in /etc.
<7> heh
<7> hey twkm how did you guys manage to get ops back in bind
<3> everyone eventually died.
<7> neat


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