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<0> hola!
<0> bom dzia!
<1> yeah!
<0> :)
<0> good morning
<1> morning
<1> its still night here i wont have to be up for work for another 5 hours!
<0> you should be sleeping
<0> i did that last night
<0> we're renovating our mail platform
<0> somehow i managed to persuade my boss to stick with sendmail for the borders...
<0> but i still have to evaluate and demo a complete solution
<1> i hate it when i disconnect and dont notice it
<1> ok im going to grab a few hours ill be back in about 4-5 hours
<0> see ya
<2> okay i have this problem. i don't expect anyone to be able to help but maybe give me some advice
<2> i retrieved mail (by pop3) from my email client
<2> but i need to move these mails back and retrieve them somewhere else
<2> is that at all possible?
<2> i could put them back in the users mail file but.. i don't know how
<3> if anyone cares, I solved my sendmail problem
<4> How?
<3> dont know unfortunally
<3> I rm -rf /etc/mail and installed new configs from scratch
<3> as far as I can tell they are identical, with the major difference that these work
<3> what really bugs me is that I know I tried this before and it didnt work
<4> so if someone has the same problem, we tell them to reinstall the OS or at least rm -rf /etc/mail? :)
<3> on FreeBSD, its as simple as 'rm -rf /etc/mail; mergemaster' and you are back where you started
<3> The /etc/mail directory is part of base, its a piece of cake to recreate it
<4> "look at the bigger picture ... "
<3> but it bugs the hell out of me that I could track down the problem
<3> s/could/couldnt
<3> I almost wish it would come back so I could figure out what caused it
<4> check your st.401.cx record:)
<3> this is probably not the best place to mention this, but Ive been running sendmail for 10 years, and Im actually thinking about switching to postfix
<5> morning
<4> We know what solved the problem
<5> we're still working on this?
<4> and it was not rm -rf /etc/mail
<4> Morning msk
<4> No, he solved his problem by doing rm -rf /etc/mail && mergemaster
<4> Although that was not the solution
<3> you really think it was dns?
<4> I'll bet my qmail hat on that
<3> st.401.cx has been a cname for a year and worked fine
<5> hm
<3> I would not wear a qmail hat even if you payed me
<5> why do CNAMEs matter?
<3> msk: dont know, sub says it does
<4> Because sendmail canonifies the address
<4> and because Claus said that CNAME was bad and that was in the bible since before you were born:)
<3> Im actually old...I might outdate the bible by a few years ;)
<5> # shall I avoid expanding CNAMEs (violates protocols)?
<5> #O DontExpandCnames=False
<4> http://www.sendmail.org/rfc/0974.txt
<4> BTW, he does not have a MX recod, msk
<3> sendmail expands the cnames??
<3> why have I not been told about this?!
<5> i'm not sure why it's not transparent
<4> Because your mail server cl***ified thememo we sent as spam because it was in sorbs
<4> There is sendmail and there is networking
<4> You asked a sendmail question and we ***umed that you were clused. We did not check the networking part
<5> i have to ask about this
<3> but, if I added a mx for st.401.cx pointing to same thing the cname once pointed to, it should work, right?
<5> i mean, if the specs say we have to do it then we do it
<5> but it's not very intuitive, so i see why it's confusing
<5> rocky: that'll definitely work
<5> apparently CNAMEs are grey though
<4> msk, it's one of the wierd things you come across if you run a busy mail server
<4> basically, avoid it as you don't know what others might do
<3> this really freaks me out. I know atleast 3 other systems I've managed that runs a lot of domains based on cnames
<4> It was an interesting problem anyhow
<4> msk, btw, that res patch won't work on pre openbsd 3.7
<5> yours?
<4> Yes, the patch I sent you
<5> ok
<5> i haven't looked at it in a few days
<5> other priorities, alas
<5> but maybe i'll look into the idea of just shedding the _res use altogether, makes the code simpler
<0> bye!
<6> oi
<4> Hi
<6> sub are you still the sendmail zealot?
<7> hi
<6> hello spork
<7> hey hows it going man
<7> been a while since I've talked with oyu
<6> I believe the last time I spoke to you guys spork was on his way to becoming a self made millionaire
<6> yeah its been going steady, just finishing up my bachelors and taking pre-reqs for grad school
<6> what about you guys
<7> I've kind of gotten side tracked with a better job opertunity =)
<7> been pretty good.
<7> working for corp. america now
<6> you wear a suit and tie?
<7> technically you could consider me big publishing, big money, and big oil
<7> almost
<6> i'm still living like a apprentice and you guys are making $$. Sounds nice
<7> heh
<6> the last time i spoke you were still living in California?
<7> the job I have now is pretty chill =)
<7> no, colorado =)
<7> I'm still here
<6> i knew it started with a c
<6> what part?
<7> Boulder
<6> I have three institutions in mind for grad school, one of them being CSU Ft. Collins. I here the weather is spectacular
<7> yeah
<7> colorado gets about 300+ days of sun shine a year
<8> I MAKE SUNSHINE
<7> !
<8> *.*
<6> The weather is barely tolerable here in houston
<4> No, I'm no longer using sendmail as it has been deemed obsolete by the powers beyond me
<6> haha, you've migrated to Exchage?
<4> Yes!
<6> well i've never used the software, but i hear its remarkably expensive
<4> That does not prevent people from using it
<7> exchange is great
<7> it takes a whole blade center to run 300 users
<4> good for the hardware business:)
<7> SCHD_ULE is slow..
<4> Are you using Linux for bsd?
<6> linux
<6> sub hows the weather in the Indian ocean
<4> What weather?
<4> I don't bother about weather. I bother about ping times
<5> hahhah
<7> freebsd
<7> -CURRENT
<6> i havent used bsd in a coons age
<7> on a NOCONA machine no less
<6> im sure its still the same although
<7> FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT amd64
<6> why do people get so picky about being CTCP versioned? i just wanted to see what all the 'kids' are using now these days
<4> and what did you find out?
<6> bitchx is still popular
<4> This channel is not a good sample set
<6> I used to enjoy ircii, but these newer GUI clients are getting nicer by the bug fix
<7> yeah
<7> probably any channel I'm in is not a good sample set =)
<4> Not so, try the secret channel:)
<7> as nearly all the people in here are in most of those =)
<7> true
<7> but I think that channel is still going to be very heavily BSD/Linux console based clients
<6> well, since i just got kicked from linux for versioning someone, this is the only channel i allocate
<7> if you want a good sample set of regular idiot users you should version #mysql =)
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