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<0> then a centralized authority like verisign can be used to authenticate anyone who wants to send email
<1> You like that idea?
<2> Yeah, but then they'll decide arbitrary stuff or start enforcing US law on the rest of the world through their policies.
<0> it should be available as an option to people who want to use the system
<0> with ipv6 every device can have an ip address
<0> 3 forms of authentication means that the person sending the mail is legit
<2> they are?
<0> as legit as people can be
<0> nothing wrong with us law



<0> america > world
<0> that's not some idle boast
<0> germany barely beats out arkansas in standard of living and quality of life for germans
<0> http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110005242
<0> n other words poverty is relative, and in the U.S. a large 45.9% of the "poor" own their homes, 72.8% have a car and almost 77% have air conditioning, which remains a luxury in most of Western Europe.
<1> You should ask an European about standard of living
<0> i have
<0> the eu taxation scheme is repressive
<1> No
<1> You cannot compare the EU with the US nor can you compare the taxation system
<0> why not?
<1> Because some EU countries have a welfare state
<0> one is pro-entrepreneurship and the other is communist
<1> communist?
<0> the european union was setup on the communist soviet model
<1> Each system has its advantages and disadvantages depending on where you stand
<1> No
<0> communism has no benefit other than for the freeloaders
<1> Are you trying to compare the EU to the US?
<0> yes. comparing standard of living and quality of life
<0> europe=nice place to visit, horrible place to live
<0> the numbers dont lie sub
<1> You know what they say about statistics:)
<0> well
<0> let's not go there
<0> i have family in paris
<0> they have squatters now
<0> traffic congestion
<0> and that fanatical muslim problem
<2> I added myself to the sshd allowed users list, and removed root.
<2> but I forgot my shell was nologin
<2> so I have to go down to the office now :(
<2> thats the only way right?
<2> ?
<2> btw.. who here can work out what GMT time is in australian time? :/
<1> Australian has several timezones



<2> umm?
<2> right.. sorry
<2> pip_ are you using freebsd right now?
<0> BitchX-1.1-final+ by panasync - FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE
<2> How's 4.11?
<0> stable
<2> lol
<0> my workstation is FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p1
<0> 4:40PM up 20 days, 23:43, 1 user, load averages: 0.07, 0.03, 0.00
<2> nice
<2> =)
<3> sub you round?
<1> Yes, but you missed the verb in that line
<3> heh
<3> i need to compile sendmail 8.13.5 with milter in the siteconfig
<3> where do i put that option and what does the line look like?
<1> You don't as it is the default in 8.13.x
<3> oh
<3> so just build
<3> and im good to go?
<1> Yes and get 8.13.8
<1> Yes, you are
<3> k
<3> same .cf file will work with it?
<3> as .5?
<1> generate a new cf
<3> they really
<3> made sendmail easy now eh
<3> used to be all backwards *** to setup and config
<1> Maybe you understand it more now:)
<3> maybe
<3> and
<3> i gots another problem
<3> freebsd 4.9
<3> with linux compat installed
<3> try to compile milter-regex 1.6
<1> Use ports
<3> and it says : /usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot find -lpthread
<3> how can it not find that?
<1> I don't know FreeBSD. Try their mailing list?
<3> maybe


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