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<0> www.ineedurhelp.narod.ru
<1> lol
<1> **** off cunt!
<1> haaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
<1> <3
<2> hi, is it possible to extract the existing pw of a user as root?
<3> with a Cray
<4> O_o
<5> Hi Guys.. A friend of mine wants to watch what i do on the shell .. he has local access to the box. is there a program i can use so that he can interatively watch what im doing on the shell?
<4> joobie: you can share a screen ..
<4> or he could install a loggin bash shell .. or he could monitor ~/.bash_history ..
<4> or he can watch ps ..
<5> thanks
<5> hmm weird, I login to my friends shell remotely and run 'screen' as my user. My friend logs in with his user, loads terminal and runs 'su myuser -', he then becomes my user in his terminal.. he then runs 'screen -x' to share my screen session but it says 'Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/2' - please check.' ? Any idea guys??
<5> guys is there an RPM i can install to run an FTPD server on Fedora?
<6> is there a way to cut a .txt file in half ? like 50% in another text file and 50% in another text file ?
<4> fuzz_: er .. yes
<4> do
<4> wc -l file.txt
<4> then half it
<4> head -n HALFSIZE file.txt >tophalf.txt
<4> tail -n HALFSIZE file.txt >tophalf.txt
<4> er
<4> tail -n HALFSIZE file.txt >bothalf.txt
<4> :P
<4> FILE=file.txt; size=`wc -l $FILE | cut -d' ' -f1`; half=`expr $size / 2`; echo $half; head -n $half $FILE > top.txt; tail -n $half $FILE >bot.txt
<4> thats a oneliner!!!
<7> a little bit off topic, but does anyone know - is it best for someone to start with things like RHCE and MCSE before delving into the security business?
<8> secuirtt
<8> security requires knowledge
<8> i doubt a course can provide that
<8> security is an ongoing process and needs you to understand what you are talking about in great detail
<4> kitchen: http://paste.linux-noob.com/index.php?query=1254 #32 !:P
<7> hi, if I'm only looking for training and not certification, is the official RHCE course still good for just learning, or is it overpriced for that?
<9> jksd the cert program are for semi experienced users
<9> you should look into a community college if you want a cl***room
<7> Dr-Lol: really? oh that might explain why I found some things a bit complex
<9> but there are tons of online resources that will get you started
<9> most guys in here are self taught
<7> should I take network+ / a+ first?
<9> you could
<7> and that would sort me out?
<9> would be helpful, well the network + would be
<9> a+ is window based
<9> so not too helpful for linux
<7> and then I'd be semi experienced enough to do an RHCE?
<7> right
<9> no
<9> you need experience with linux/redhat
<7> what other skills would I need?
<7> right
<9> you need to get basics with using a console and installing binaries and RPMs
<7> I'm doing the course ATM, I mean it's not that bad
<9> and termanology
<7> Dr-Lol: is there a course for this?
<7> or tldp.org?
<10> practice and experience combined with books are your best bet
<7> I must say though, as far as I've gotten, it does seem doable for a novice, although that could change once I get into it
<10> you can run a kid through a certification boot camp and get them to p*** their exam
<10> unfortuantely pretty much all certs are more about your test taking ability then your actual ability
<7> I've done the first section, that was OK
<7> right
<10> it generally means to employers you have a bare minimum of literacy on the topic
<10> reading much more into it is dangerous
<10> this is what job interviews are for
<10> my first question would be how manys ervers do you admin
<7> my answer would be none?
<10> if the answer is 0, then you're not really into this, even as a hobby so no thanks
<7> I'm just a beginner
<7> I have been thinking of creating one though
<10> well when I was a beginner I put linux on both my machines and started learning to admin them
<10> you sound like you're doing this for a paycheck, which is fine
<7> it's not, I really enjoy it
<7> but the paycheck is a factor, yeah
<10> if you really enjoyed it you would have already setup a box =)
<4> jksd: the paycheck factor .. haha you wish ..
<7> I have just one, it's the money that's holding me back on that
<10> go buy vmware, it's like 200-300$
<7> I figure learn first, buy later
<10> if you can't afford that I suggest you find a job now
<9> jksd, go find a machine that someone doesnt need anymore
<9> like an old pII
<9> with a 5Gig HDD
<9> thats all you need
<7> I wouldn't know where to look
<7> I could vmware this one
<9> install, break, install, break, install, break, fix, break, fix, break, install
<10> jksd: yellow pages. refurb. ebay. etc
<9> thats how i did it
<7> ebay, that could be an idea
<4> Dr-Lol: thats actually the best method too
<4> reading can only take you so far
<9> i just kept install linux until i could fix it instead of a reinstall
<10> anyways my advice for you is to see if you can learn initiative
<4> hah
<7> Dr-Lol: what kinds of things were you doing on it?
<9> well, i only use linux for services
<10> cause you need it
<9> first time i did it, was to see if i could host a simple webpage
<9> then php
<9> then mysql
<9> then BNC's
<9> now i have 3 dedicated servers i rent, plus at work i have hybrid linux/windows services and at home, my media server is linux based
<9> i dont run linux desktop yet really
<7> any money in the dedicated server business?
<9> no need for it
<10> jksd: if you have to ask, then for you, no
<9> but i love running linux servers
<7> seifried: nope, just interested
<7> thanks :)
<9> jksd my dedicated servers cost me more then i make on them, but i use them more for personal use anyways, and trial and error stuff too
<7> how much is your rent, like $400/month or something?
<7> I might get one in the future
<9> nah
<9> 60-120/mo
<7> ah OK
<9> depending on the host company, amount of b/w a month, and the quality of the box
<10> yeah I pay about 500 a monthf ro a closet
<10> with minimal bandwidth
<10> nice to have the 24 hour access though
<10> and it changes your mindset a lot
<9> yeah i have a cabinet too, but i havent done anything with it, i dont pay rent on it till i have servers there :)
<7> Dr-Lol: OK, so just to confirm, the RHCE course is definitely out of my reach?
<10> jksd: oh hell yah
<9> jksd, not out of your reach, just maybe not the first thing to do
<10> jksd: so you have any experience adminstering red hat enterprise?
<7> hmm that ****'s I'm already 1/3 way though it
<10> if no.. don't bother
<10> ask for a refund
<7> seifried: no I don't no
<7> seifried: how would I get one?
<9> jksd, how much longer do you have?
<10> see this is why certifications are largely useless on their own
<10> get one what?
<9> left in cl***es?
<7> Dr-Lol: I'm self-studying
<10> you're asking me how to get a refund? heheh
<7> doing the elearning course
<7> I don't think they'd give me a refund
<7> it doesn't say you need experience admining redhat in the pre-reqs bti
<7> bit
<10> no
<10> because they want to make money
<10> and sell as many courses as they can
<7> :/
<9> jksd, you need to use the system in a daily manner as you e-learn
<10> man no wonder people have a tough time finding qualified people
<9> yeah no ****
<9> jksd, we dont want to discourage you from learning
<10> actually the opposite
<10> we want you to learn
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