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<0> who has their RHCE?
<1> is it possible to mount an LVM'd drive from one machine on another machine, bothing running RHEL?
<1> all i can see is /boot, not the good stuff
<2> is it legal to download red hat 8?
<2> anyone?
<3> why not
<3> better yet, why would you?
<2> dunno **** about it
<2> well
<2> i'm a pharmacist
<3> redhat is old
<2> i own a business
<3> redhat 8 really
<2> and the software vendor for our dispensing program
<2> is using diskless workstations
<3> do you make designer drugs?
<3> ;)
<2> and said we need red hat 8
<2> i can do iv's on request
<2> so
<2> they are going to charge us 50 bucks for red hat 8
<2> but if i can get for free
<2> i'd rather do that
<3> wel, redhat 8 stopped being supported by redhat a long time ago
<2> hmmm
<2> whats newest version?
<3> they are 6 version later already
<2> really
<3> well, they went redhat 9, then fedora core 1, 2, 3, 4 and just released 5
<2> ah so fedora = new red hat
<2> that explains it
<2> well
<2> is it legal to download those
<2> and where would one find such things
<2> or are those purchase items
<3> well
<3> you can BUY support package for RHEL 4 (redhat enterprise)
<2> uh huh
<3> the software is still free, but the support is what your really buying
<2> what does that get you?
<2> "support"
<3> RHEL4 is enterprise edition
<2> no, the support i mean
<3> similar to fedora core free
<3> yes, support means free phone calls, emails, etc etc
<3> they wont sell support for redhat 8 anymore
<3> i think it was like $69 at the time
<2> so
<3> so
<2> why would one need support from red hat? if you didnt know what you were doing?
<3> you may be stuck with what they want you to use
<3> everyone needs support
<2> hmmm
<3> in one way or another, most people like me wont pay for it, but because we are in the business to learn and manage these things
<2> well
<3> huh?
<2> what was that
<3> bad bot kick, sorry
<2> s'ok
<3> its lagging
<2> so anyway
<2> it would be foolish of us to PAY 50 bucks for red hat 8
<3> your not a computer guy, right?
<2> i am
<2> i'm decent with windows
<2> this is a new world for me
<3> but your a pharmicist?
<2> yup
<3> well, choose your path, pharmacy or computers
<2> pssht
<3> dont try both :)
<2> BOTH
<3> lol
<2> eh
<2> we can do anything we want to
<3> well, your gonna spend more time learning redhat/linux then you would making money for the first serveral months
<2> heeh
<2> well
<2> i'm just trying to get educated so i dont lose my shirt
<3> understood
<2> they are trying to sell me linux os for 50 bucks
<2> which i know now is stupid
<3> let me give you some help here
<2> then
<2> they want to sell diskless workstations for 1200
<2> which i can get for 250, same terminals
<2> and a server for 2000
<3> if you buy that copy for 50 bucks, will they help you get it installed, and make sure THEIR stuff works with it?
<3> stupid bot
<2> damn
<3> sorry
<2> yall dont like me
<2> lol
<2> its a long story dr lol
<2> they actually charge 500 bucks to make sure their stuff works
<3> nah, they too sensative on flood timings
<2> whether i ship to them
<2> my hardware
<2> or do it over the phone
<2> so
<2> 500+50 is stupid
<2> if i have to spend the 500 regardless
<2> if i buy privately, i will save around 4k
<3> well, they can do that, if its all proprietary
<3> what is all this for?
<2> dispensing system
<2> process claims, label prescriptions, drug intxn checks
<2> etc etc
<3> auto fill robots stuff?
<2> they interface with that too
<3> sweet
<2> my wife works with one of those systems
<2> robotic arm labels bottle and conveyor spits it out at you
<2> stupid ****
<2> takes longer troubleshooting it
<2> then counting to 30 yourself
<3> well, i seriously dont recommend leanring linux at this point, would not be efficient use of your degree
<2> heh
<2> so if i had 2 paths to take
<2> 1 being mail them my hardware and have them install
<2> and 2 being install with them over the phone
<2> you would take 1
<3> nah
<3> well, depends
<2> where can i download this old os?
<3> how much time do you want to waste
<3> hmm, youll need to find an old irror
<3> mirror
<3> but geesus
<3> redhat is full of holes
<2> security holes?
<3> the kernel alone has tons of root exploits
<3> newer version are much much better
<3> BRB
<2> i'll talk with the vendors
<3> you should
<3> i realize you are trying to save money, but you need to look, at what point will all this work start costing you productivity
<3> and productivity is what makes you money, learning only costs you money
<2> of course
<2> i spoke with them earlier
<2> and asked if red hat was "required"
<3> even at a higher cost, i would choose the fastest and easiest solution possible, and then concentrate on business
<2> they stated a firm yes
<2> well, i think what you are going here is for cost effectiveness
<3> verify with them the version, and where is their source for it
<2> and like i said
<2> i'd spend 500 getting everything installed one way or another
<3> ask them what kernel it uses and what dependencies it has
<2> and i'd rather save the dough and get my own hardware
<3> thats not too bad
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