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<0> Ifyou using Fedora Core 5 without xwindows is there user editor utility other then adduser please?
<0> I know in redhat that do not call it yast but something like that?
<1> err
<1> what do you need to do that adduser / usermod, etc can't handle?
<0> One utility makes it easer where you can evertyhing.
<0> What processor speed do you need to load core 5?
<1> you can cover everything with 2 utilities
<1> frodo_: eh... anything over a p2 350 should do, i'd say
<0> I was wondering if they have something yast?
<1> no
<1> redhat doesn't have yast
<1> i don't understand why you are reluctant to get your hands dirty
<1> linux is not windows.
<0> Ok. Is there another utility close to it?
<1> no
<1> adduser / usermod suffice just fine
<0> ok
<1> if you told me what you were trying to do, maybe I could help you
<1> but instead you're looking for some gui that you don't need.
<0> I am installing cpanel anyhoiw that will do it.
<1> I really wonder how I end up with all the ****ty jobs, and all the ****ty admins end up with the good jobs
<0> I am doing web hosting services with it,.
<1> frodo_: you're doing webhosting, yet you can't figure out adduser
<1> hmm.
<1> on second thought, can I get an account?
<1> :)
<0> I havebeen using linux for more then 10 years andI know how to use adduser.
<1> so why are you looking for some gui user management interface
<1> my dad's been using linux for 3 years but that doesn't make him an expert.
<1> in fact, he has no clue what any of his system does
<0> Its easer and less arguments to type in.
<1> heh
<1> actually, I bet you woud probably spend more time per day adding users through some gui than on the command line
<1> what's so hard about:
<1> useradd -m user
<1> p***wd user
<1> p***word
<1> it's tough, i know
<1> i mean, you have to TYPE! ZOMG
<1> where's the point and click
<0> If you want to atract more windows users to linux gui interface is the way to go.
<1> nice changing the subject.
<1> my point is
<1> why are *YOU* looking for some gui
<0> yes
<1> if you've been a linux user for "more then [sic] 10 years"
<0> that is your preference and there are some users that like the gui interface.
<1> which is why I laugh.
<1> you're too afraid to get your hands dirty, yet you call yourself a sysadmin
<1> guis are for the boss.
<0> No
<1> the guy who *shouldn't* know about the low level stuff
<1> if you're adding 300 users an hour, and have a sales crew of 20 doing it, then sure, a gui is needed
<1> less training, you don't have to give them full access to the box, etc
<1> but how often do you really think you'llb e adding users?
<1> and like i said, you'll probably spend more time navigating some gui to add a user than just typing it in
<1> here, i'll time myself adding a user:
<1> Connection to edge.scriptkitchen.com closed.
<1> real 0m14.558s
<1> user 0m0.014s
<1> sys 0m0.008s
<0> Linux usage world wide is small compare to windows and if you want more users to use linux then most useers like the grui interface.
<1> 14 seconds
<1> frodo_: that's not what i'm debating.
<1> sure, grandma doesn't need to know how to run fdisk
<1> but a sysadmin of a web hosting provider should know every facet of his sytem's security
<2> frodo_, gui is a waste of space
<2> and resources
<2> i work much faster on the shell
<0> Most users are idiots and it takes them forever to learn how to use linux. So by making linux more easer to use you attract them to using linux.
<0> windows users
<2> linux isnt the issue
<1> frodo_: you are completely ignoring my point
<1> i'm not talking about joe user
<2> peoples understanding of system services is
<1> i'm talking about *YOU*
<1> heh
<1> if you've been using linux for 10 years, why aren't you surfing the command line?
<2> kitchen, lol
<1> wait wait wait
<2> ;-D
<1> don't tell me you use an ftp client and like
<1> notepad
<1> to edit config files
<0> I gues we will see which version of linux makes it.
<1> please tell me you're AT LEAST using nano
<2> kitchen, haha
<2> or vi!
<2> or emacs
<1> OmegaEvil: well you'd hope he's using vi or emacs, but nano is at least mildly acceptable
<2> lolol
<2> ;-D
<2> i guess mate
<2> brb
<1> damn bot
<1> p***wd: yoh?
<2> whats wrong mate ?
<2> try p***wd
<2> ehh packeting
<1> nope, packeting hates me too
<3> paypal
<1> nope
<3> doh
<1> i'm sure it's just that p***wd took my old host off
<3> did your host change? cause you should have got + when you entered
<1> i've never gotten autovoiced in here
<3> your right
<2> nor me
<1> ;P
<1> i had this host befgore, but asked p***wd to add a new host, apparently he took this one off :P
<1> oh well
<3> you can change hosts
<3> i forgot the command
<1> ident
<3> addhost p***word
<1> that actually works on these bots?
<1> ident?
<3> with your p***word i think it does, depends on how its set up
<1> hrm
<1> most people disable ident
<1> it's kind of a security liability
<4> kitchen: i have my ident running but filter it just for the irc servers i connect to..
<4> or other services that i use ..
<5> I've got a machine thats not booting because I upgraded the RAID driver ... I'm driving out to teh coloc now - what software should I bring? Is the 'Ultimate Boot CD' likely to be enough?
<1> znx: nooo... the ident command for bots
<1> like /msg bot ident p***word nick
<6> hi
<6> anyone around?
<6> well anyhow i bet u get this alot ... whenever i run a rpm file it most often ask for librarays that i dont have
<6> could u recomend me a good forum where i can read about common stuff like this
<6> just installed redhat 9 .... want to install opera and dc++ and some krusader (some total commander stuff 4 linux)
<5> My machine has stopped booting since I installed a new RAID driver --- I need the text of the error for the support folk, but it scrolls past it. (This error happens before I'm offered interactive setup.) Is there a way of making grub/initrd page through its output?
<4> kitchen: doh!
<4> :)
<7> Hi Guys.. can someone explain what a source based route is used for in a routing table?
<8> how do I extract a .bin file?
<9> *News Update*: "Doctors Chop Baby's Arm Off" http://creativestudios.com/blog/
<10> can anyone tell me how to remove anything between brackets in a text file? including the brackets. Eg. Hello [people] World > to read Hello World
<10> i am trying to use sed
<2> \[hi\]
<4> Joe6523: echo 'this is [a wonderful] test' | sed 's/\[.*\]//'
<4> this is test .. output
<10> awww....thanks a million znx
<10> works like a charm
<4> cool
<2> hax0r the fux0r
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