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<ceL_> dont really want to hack up qmail source
<ceL_> maybe there is a better way to do it via qmail-smtpd run?
<ceL_> lol
<df_> i feal redirecting their port 25 traffic would be a much more efficient thing.. problem is it'll be resource consuming for you (understand, need to setup smtpd servers)
<df_> (setup.. and maintain them)
<ceL_> well i guess u could drop all 25 traffic
<df_> depends
<ceL_> except to ur own subnet
<df_> woudl your clients bitch at you for doing such ?
<ceL_> ya i know
<ceL_> well i mean
<ceL_> they have to understand
<ceL_> heh
<df_> :)
<df_> we both know the won't
<ceL_> yea
<ceL_> so do u know of anyway to rewrite headers
<ceL_> :P
<df_> honestly, no
<df_> Volatile or kitchen
<ceL_> kk
<df_> are the only ones i can think off for such Q.
<ceL_> well man thanks for ur input on the issue
<ceL_> always something with mail
<df_> np, just hope i wa somehow usefull
<df_> yeah
<df_> but that brings all the fun to it :)
<ceL_> ya
<ceL_> lol
<df_> back to my httpd nightmare
<AIChains> trainwrecj
<AIChains> trainwreck
<df_> :/
<AIChains> :{
<df_> i'm pissed
<df_> i have a tricky problem, and noone that can give a proper advice for it
<df_> hehe
<AIChains> apache mailing list ?
<df_> they wouldn't answer
<df_> it's more a "how do you run your own setup" tricky question
<df_> now coming from me, a complete stranger, i don't expect much than sarcasm
<AIChains> lol true
<flyback-> I am NOT going away till you tell wtf the ban was for
<kitchen> because you're banned in there
<flyback-> no
<kitchen> that's why.
<flyback-> maru said I could stay
<ceL_> anyone know a way to rewrite the 'received by' header on a message thats outgoing?
<kitchen> ceL_: you shouldn't
<ceL_> well how else can i change it
<kitchen> you shouldn't.
<ceL_> and if you need to
<kitchen> why would you need to
<ceL_> a mail server some users are trying to email i think they parse all the ips found in the header of the message and check them for rbl's
<kitchen> so you're going to break your mail server to fix their broken mail server?
<kitchen> ?
<ceL_> how will it break it
<kitchen> hiding information in headers makes your message hard to trace
<kitchen> what if you had an abusive user
<kitchen> if you hide their IP
<ceL_> i mean
<kitchen> you can't figure out who sent the message
<ceL_> if u rewrite an ip to another ip
<ceL_> just when it matches it
<ceL_> like using sed maybe
<ceL_> i think you'll be able to tell?
<kitchen> dno't break your mail server to fix someone else's broken mail server
<ceL_> i guess thats a new spam filtering technique?
<kitchen> no
<kitchen> it's someone's bad idea
<kitchen> they'll figure it out eventually
<kitchen> when they realize they are blocking half of their legit email
<ceL_> so u think checking the recieved by header against an rbl is a bad idea i guess?
<kitchen> yes
<kitchen> for instance
<kitchen> my ip at home, is probably on an rbl
<kitchen> it's a dynamic IP address
<kitchen> when I send out through my email server (which is not blacklisted), my IP is in the header
<kitchen> therefore, if someone blocks because my IP which is in the header is on an rbl
<kitchen> they'll block a whole lot more than just me
<ceL_> hehe
<ceL_> good point
<kitchen> but
<kitchen> if you REALLLY need to
<kitchen> check out how qmail-smtpd uses TCPREMOTE*
<kitchen> environment variables
<kitchen> then, insert script before qmail-smtpd to munge those
<kitchen> but make sure you are able to track the mungings
<ceL_> kk
<ceL_> thanks man
<kitchen> but again, i would not recommend doing that
<ceL_> yea i might not
<kitchen> you should call the other admin and tell them to **** off
<ceL_> ill probably just give them a call
<ceL_> lol
<ceL_> that is some dumb ****
<kitchen> and tell them to hire me
<kitchen> :)
<ceL_> its a huge company
<kitchen> i've built huge mail servers before
<ceL_> what would be the fastest way to move data from one server to another
<ceL_> i guess u would use a nas
<ceL_> for a big mail server
<ceL_> using nfs?
<imajes> kitchen!
<Matador> mail hell
<olus> would it be wise to replace sendmail with qmail for just a system that needs to send mail out
<olus> or would that be kind of pointless
<Matador> bah
<Matador> so ****ed
<Matador> I got all this email I need to restore
<olus> do you have backups?
<Matador> ya
<Matador> its in Maildir
<olus> so what's the problem?
<Matador> need to restore it to a non-maildir system
<olus> ah
<olus> didn't somebody write a tool for that?
<Matador> well the maildirectory looks like inbox
<Matador> is 1 big file
<Matador> called inbox
<Matador> wtf format is that ?
<olus> I think it's just called "maildir"
<Matador> hmm
<Matador> in domain/user/Maildir/cur folder
<Matador> its 830198312.mail.domain,S=31231:2,S
<Matador> files
<Matador> new server, its INBOX
<olus> yeah that's "mbox"
<Matador> oh
<Matador> ok good
<Matador> so I need a Maildir to mbox thing then
<Matador> and not to overwrite existing emails
<olus> Qmail itself comes with the working Maildir to mbox conversion utility, intuitively named maildir2mbox.
<Matador> google should be able to help me now
<olus> got that from google
<Matador> ya
<Matador> At the moment the process of converting subdirectories of Maildir's for a large number of users is very time consuming and clumsy at best."
<Matador> heh
<Matador> Cpanel has a conversion script to switch from mbox to Maildir which should handle everything for you. You will lose support for Neomail however that is being removed from Cpanel any way so it's not a huge deal.
<Matador> I gotta see this
<Matador> sweet
<Matador> I recently had to convert a bunch of maildir messages to mbox format so I could import them into Thunderbird.
<Matador> if Thunderbird can see them, that would be great
<Matador> sweet
<Matador> thunderbird has INBOX
<Matador> so mbox format
<Volatile> wtf are you talking about
<Volatile> Thunderbird doesn't give a **** what format the remote server stores messages in
<Matador> I know
<Matador> but I have 5gb of Maildir ****
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