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<0> yeah :(
<1> at least in most environments i've seen
<1> especially if you're doing cgi
<0> but it doesn't make sense
<1> because the cgi process isn't persistent
<1> in php i would write the file to a temporary location then set a variable in $_SESSION[]
<0> I think you might be misunderstanding me
<1> in rails, i would use @session, but same idea
<0> like...if there are no validaiton errors, the file is attached and the email is sent with no problem
<1> right
<0> oh, ok
<0> and all that session stuff is taken care of by zope
<1> so you would first do your validation
<1> if it checks out ok, you just whoosh it off
<1> if not, store the file, return an error to the user and set in their sesion that you've stored a file and where
<0> hmm
<0> and then delete it when their done
<1> then, when they send again, if it p***es validation, open the file, and hand it to the funciotn that sends the mail
<1> yea
<0> I"m afraid it would have negative effects on performance
<1> if it's naything like perl's cgi, you get a filehandle
<1> well, my guess is it already writes the file to a temporary directory
<1> then opens a filehandle on it, and hands that to you
<1> that's what CGI.pm does afaik
<0> yeah, there's some magic happening in the background that I don't quite understand. at first I thought python was somehow doing it
<1> that's what php does
<1> yea you should check how your framework handles file uploads
<1> it should be well documented, that's a very common feature
<1> if i knew how ot use CGI::Session in perl i'd make you a quick example
<0> well, the problem is that I don't think it's a straightforward file upload
<0> I dunno
<1> it should be
<1> like i said, they probably just give you a filehandle
<1> and you take that from there
<0> you know...maybe that's what I"m doing wrong. perhaps I'm just submitting the filehandle on the second try instead of actually submitting the file
<1> well, if you've stored the file on disk and sent the user back
<1> then you probably have to open the file and give it to the function
<1> make your mail function take a filehandle as input
<1> ***uming your framework handles file uploads by giving you a file handle
<0> well, it gives me a file object
<0> or "instance"
<1> yea
<1> so essentially a filehandle
<0> I'm still unsure how it's making the transition from input type="file" to file object
<0> and it's not really well documented, no
<0> as in..not everything is documented...and...all the documentation isn't 100% reliable
<1> what framework are you using?
<0> zope
<1> oh
<1> zope is hugely documented
<1> i'm sure something like fileuploads are handled ok
<0> heh
<1> oh, one more thing to consider
<0> the lates version of zope to have an online book is 2.7
<1> are your forms set with the content-type multipart/form-data ?
<0> and that's not even reported to be complete
<0> like...it's still in progress
<0> despite the fact that zope is like in 2.9 now hehe (excluding the zope3 stuff)
<0> yes, I've got it set to multipart/form-data
<1> ok
<1> well lemme take a quick crash course in cgi::session and i'll see if i can't whack out an example in perl
<0> and yeah...I can find zope info all over google, but it's only accurate half the time
<1> heh
<0> but don't get me wrong. zope is ok, it's plone I truly despise
<1> hehe
<0> so basically you are saying there's not going to be an easy way to wrap this up, I'm gonna have to step back and redo some stuff
<0> I've been trying to find a way to trick the form into submitting a file type without using input type="file" (like with hidden inputs)
<0> but for some reason, submitting the file with input type="hidden" doesn't work
<1> you can't :)
<1> you can p*** the filename, but that doesn't work
<0> I even tried encapsulating it
<1> haha
<1> nice :P
<2> supppp
<1> that would work, theoretically
<1> [corrupt]: hi sir.
<0> yeah, maybe I'm not doing it right
<2> hey kitkit :P
<1> [corrupt]: where's mah spoof ;(~
<2> ive been cheating on qmail recently :)
<1> uh oh.
<2> i told you, you have one on my box :)
<2> yeah yeah.. been messin with postfix
<1> hehe
<1> i tried
<2> and i really like it
<1> 10 lines into the config file and i was like 'blah"
<1> i really like how simple qmail makes things
<2> i dunno
<1> want to play backup mx for some domain?
<2> i have to say postfix is simpler
<1> put the odmain in rcpthosts
<1> done.
<1> nothing to restart
<1> nothing to reload
<1> it's just done.
<0> kitchen: http://pastebin.com/588305
<2> it took me about an hour to setup an entire virtual setup with clamd/sa/maildrop/etc
<2> first time with qmail.. that toook like 2wks
<2> :P
<1> [corrupt]: yea but you're using amavis aren't you
<2> yeah
<1> yea
<2> for now
<0> kitchen: that's my python script that tries to manually encapsulate the file type like the file selection control does
<1> amavis can eat **** and die
<1> i don't like the whole smtp relay proxy crap postfix makes you jump through to put a virus scanner in front of it
<1> i like the QMAILQUEUE interface, a lot.
<2> yeah i was sorta wierded out at first
<0> oh ****, I'm a dork
<0> apparently I should read before following examples
<1> hrm, cgi::session seems more complicated than I feel like getting into right now
<0> hehe
<0> understandable
<1> i wish i could explain it beter
<0> the good news is that our discussion has gotten me thinking and I have a few ideas that might work
<1> wait
<1> let'd use a writeboard
<1> and i can show you
<0> hehe ok
<1> for some reason i'm better at showing someone a concept using hand motions than explaining it
<0> I think I can use zope's portal_factory to create a temporary file object that I can access
<0> I totally understand. whiteboarding is a necessity
<3> sigh
<3> i ****ed up
<0> I ***ume you're gonna create the writeboard
<3> time to call my attorney
<1> hrm
<1> writeboard isn't what i thought it was
<1> i thought you could actually draw on it
<0> oh, it's only for sharing files?
<3> kitchen, you should be able to
<0> wtf
<3> its a white board that you can draw on
<1> no, i think it's just for sharing text
<0> bummer
<3> :/
<3> anyway, i gotta draft a letter to my atty. bbl
<1> http://123.writeboard.com/4e8d9877e58474393
<1> p***word is qmail
<0> hehe, that's kind of weak
<0> helll, we're sharing text right now
<1> yea
<1> but we can't mark it up and annotate it
<0> true
<0> I just can't see the usefullness in that
<1> ok
<1> www.collingwoodnow.com/chat
<0> are all of 37 signals projets like this...
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