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<0> i'm trying to distance myself from my trollish ways
<1> i've noticed this
<1> which is why I haven't banned you again
<0> yep
<1> heh
<1> plus like i said, trolls exist solely to get banned.
<0> my intention is to not be banned
<1> the more channels they can't join because they're permbnaned, the better
<1> :P
<0> :P
<2> when i get ops, my first order is to re-instate the cm_ ban.
<0> why?
<1> it's like the bullies in grade school
<2> i dont know what im talking about.
<1> if you get upset when they call you names they just keep doing it
<1> if you just ignore them, eventually they'll leave you alone



<0> hehe
<1> it's only fun when you get a reaction.
<1> when everyone seems to not care, it gets boring.
<0> AIChains, if you strike me down, i will come back even more powerful
<1> unfortunately, it doesn't work with spammers
<0> true kitchen
<1> spammers should have come to realize by now that I never have, and never will buy any of their ****
<2> haha
<1> yet I still get spam.
<0> i just got some spam, turns out I can get my cock enlarged and lose all this pesky weight. AND get a gold credit card
<0> its win for me
<1> only gold?
<0> yep sadly
<1> i just got a spam for a DIAMOND visa
<0> hehe
<1> and rolexes for $200
<3> hey dude
<1> I actually will buy one thing from spammers if they ever hit me with it
<1> and that's strattera
<1> that **** is expensive.
<1> if they can get it to me for like $50 a bottle, i'm all for it
<3> what?stratttera?
<3> what's that in english
<1> a treatment for add
<2> what the hell
<2> junkie...
<3> sweet
<1> i'm not a junkie, I have a prescription
<1> but even with insurance, it costs me $120 for a month's supply.
<3> craaaaazey
<0> its impossible to get through to EDD, I have determined
<3> interesting request:
<3> 1.0.0.127.dnsbugtest.1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa IN PTR
<0> impossible because instead of your call going into a queue, the system just hangs up on you heh
<1> what's EDD?
<0> employment developement department, they handle unemployment benefits
<1> ahh
<0> anyways
<0> i think i will go wander around the area for a bit
<0> peace
<4> go buy something cool with your unemployment money
<2> like heroin.
<0> heh
<0> il be saving it
<1> heh Winanjaya makes me belly chuckle
<1> (s)he's been using qmail for years and still posts to the mailing list with the subject of "newbie -"
<2> :)
<1> at least he stopped posting 5 messages with almost the same question every 2 minutes before someone replied
<1> his questions have definitely gotten better
<3> heh
<3> i really dislike being hosted in florida
<1> who's your host?
<3> a friend, who's hosting me for free and giving me three servers.
<3> :)
<1> right but do you know what the company providing that is?
<3> yes, why? :)
<3> actually, i can't recall what dc he is in
<1> well we have hosting in florida too
<1> was just curious
<3> ah
<3> i will do email another day



<0> kitchen?
<0> you there?
<1> no.
<0> hehe
<0> know anything about nntp?
<1> it's a pain in the ***
<1> i know that much
<0> hehe
<0> ok
<4> kitchen: do you have a magic solution to my problems?
<4> I could really use one right about now
<1> what problem would that be?
<4> hehe
<4> oh, you mean I have to specify a problem?
<1> oh
<1> all better
<0> :P
<4> haha
<0> haha
<4> at this point I'd be happy fi I could just figure out how to "resend" a file in a form
<4> like you have form -> validator -> form
<4> if there's an error
<4> and the form inputs stay persisient through that part
<4> and like...if you fix the erorrs and resubmit the form I can get it to get all the parameters except the file
<4> get is a bad choice of word
<4> because the file has already been gotten
<4> submit
<1> hrm
<1> interesting
<1> I've never come across that issue, actually
<1> handling file uploads is a major PITA, so I generally try to avoid it
<4> yeah, I'm not happy to be dealing with it myself
<1> I ***ume you mean for say.. attaching a file to an email?
<4> hehe yes
<1> ok
<1> so what i would recommend is doing it the sqwebmail way
<1> the file upload process takes you back to the edit page regardless
<4> well, if it involves a technology other than zope, python, or html I'm pretty much screwed
<1> hehe
<1> basically you just see if the file field is set
<1> if it is, fetch those files into a temporary location
<4> ah, yes
<1> and preferably set a session variable or something in the database that says "this is the file that was uploaded"
<4> I was trying to avoid that
<1> then kick them back to the form
<4> well the kicker is that I can access the file in my form. in fact, I have a little thing that prints out the filename from the file object on the "form with errors" after validation
<4> so it's like...in my hands
<1> well, what you need to do is avoid having the user re-upload the file again
<4> oh, that's not a problem
<1> so either way you do it, you'd want to save the file and let them know you've got it waiting to ship out
<4> that's actually already taken care of
<1> ok
<1> so just send them the form back saying something like
<1> "we've got your file ok, but something else didn't validate properly"
<4> yeah..like if it spits them back to the form with validation errors, it replaces the file input "widget" with a text message that their file is "attached"
<1> yea
<1> but make it clear to them that their file has been uploaded
<1> or you might get calls like "well,k the email didn't send out but i can't attach the file now"
<4> yeah, I got that part working great. the problem is that when they hit the SEND button again, the file doesn't make it through
<1> oh
<1> well that's a server-side issue
<4> yeah
<1> i hope you have some sort of server-side session, yes?
<4> yup
<1> ok
<1> so flag in their session where you've stored the file
<1> and check that when they go to send again
<4> there's a REQUEST namespace that I can use to access all the inputted elements from the form
<1> if there's something in there, clear it out, attach, and voila
<1> that's not session though
<4> well...I think the file only exists in memory
<1> olus: well, you have to write it to disk then
<4> yeah :(


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