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<0> hey dudes
<0> whats up
<1> circle jerk
<0> no way
<0> i gotta move one qmail+vpopmail config to another server
<0> ;/
<0> moving my email from offsite to onsite
<0> im beggining the process with tar zcfv /home/vpopmail and transfering it here...
<0> then i guess i have to copy the mysql db over here
<0> can someone help me with this?
<0> man this one mother****ers mailbox is like 600m
<0> what a ****stain
<1> gross
<0> dudes
<0> im trying to take one vpopmail config
<0> and move it to another server
<0> and i moved over /home/vpopmail *
<0> however i cant seem to get it to recognize any users
<0> or domains
<0> kitchen: are you here?
<2> look at your qmail control dir
<2> you need to make sure to take some of those files too
<2> and there might be something under another folder in qmail as well. can't remember what, but I think it contains a hash file with domains in it too
<1> slak = gnak?
<3> hia
<4> dfdfdfdfdfdfdffd
<3> 'sup AIChains
<4> sup
<4> superbowl today
<3> back from conferance
<3> hah, nice
<3> hehe
<4> oya!
<3> heh i'm back to my ezmlm problems
<4> sigh
<3> indeed
<4> startin to hate that app
<3> well, just wish i could understand how it's suppose to behave
<3> i thought the config file was a key element
<3> but for some reason it doesnt seem to be, heh
<4> manual changes to that file dont seem to matter
<3> well
<3> i thought it kept track of what was set on the list
<3> so you could run ezmlm-make -e to recreate the ezmlm dir & file structures
<3> which it seems to do, but it overwrites the config values
<3> so maybe things are stored somewhere else, but thats the only file that contains things like the list-owner email addy
<3> so i was almost damn sure that file was the kuy
<3> key
<4> i dont think things are stored elsewhere
<3> i don't either
<3> it might be some correct switch combination to find for ezmlm-make
<4> i printed out the man page and went through it line by line
<3> but i can't seem to find the correct one - yet
<4> man ezmlm-make
<3> nod
<4> also googled for hours
<3> browsed them too before i left last week
<3> nod
<4> heres the thing
<4> even super simple configs dont act as you would expect
<4> slit my wrists pls ?
<3> AIChains nah there must be some other way
<3> i just wish i had kitchen's or Volatile's pov on the subject
<3> hrm if i understand these docs correctly, this should work:
<3> ezmlm-make -e /usr/local/rqmail/vpopmail-5.5.0/domains/list.heretik.org/lediableaucorps /usr/local/rqmail/vpopmail-5.5.0/domains/list.heretik.org/.qmail-lediableaucorps lediableaucorps list.heretik.org
<3> it does indeed recreate the dir & symblinks, but again the config file is rewritten and some options, like the list owner, are replaced by nothing
<5> I can't believe people are honestly talking about SIS implementation in qmail. use http or something. ridiculous.
<6> what's SIS?
<7> ok, anyone have any idea why it takes 30 seconds for me to get a ESMTP prompt when I connect? I don't believe it's reverse because the ip's I connect from reverse almost instantly from the name servers configured on the box and I've tried disabling reverse lookup and it always takes 30 seconds every time
<5> feature of exchange that might not be supported anymore, Single Instence Storage, so if you mail 1000 people a 50M attachment it only stores one shared copy instead of 50M*1000 of disk space
<5> exactly 30 seconds?
<7> yes
<7> exactly 30 seconds
<5> can you paste your run file for smtpd somewhere?
<5> !paste
<8> http://pastebin.com/
<7> it's a plesk managed box
<5> game over.
<7> I'm not even sure where plesk hides it, I know they move around all the qmail ****
<7> :(
<5> I dunno either
<5> does it have a /service/ directory?
<7> no
<7> I've already checked under xinetd there is no wait on any of the mail services
<5> it uses xinetd? oh bad.
<5> I've only run life with qmail type set ups
<9> cranky: the delay is probably ident lookup timeout
<9> call plesk support and ask howto turn it off
<7> well I actually thought of that
<7> and I tried DMZing my local box to see if any services were trying to connect back
<6> cranky
<6> check dns timeouts
<6> and rbl servers timeout if using any
<6> gauze: (concerning SIS) no SIS in qmail. by design
<7> ok I'll look, not sure why it would matter though, like I said i've tried disabling reverse lookups, and verified that my local ip reverses fromt he servers known name servers
<3> hia deepdown
<5> uh yeah I know
<5> you apparently don't read the mailing list
<9> hi df !
<5> someone was asking about it. I was commenting on how ridiculous anyone wanting that in 2006 is.
<3> gauze that SIS thing could be indeed interesting, just wondered who would send a 50mb attachment
<3> deepdown you wouldn't have any advice regarding my ezmlm nightmare, wouldn't you ? :)
<5> use http. end of story.
<9> i was at a customer the other day. 3.5GB exchange mail database. 146MB saved due to SIS
<3> yeah, eacgly
<9> (15 mail users)
<5> 3.5G of mail is nothing
<6> 3.5 gb exchange store ... funny
<6> 38Gb ...
<3> hmm doesn't seem like a good enough ratio to get into troubles to set that up
<9> indeed
<3> hmmmm
<9> besides, storage is cheap
<3> yeah
<3> i can feel i'm close to smthing
<4> close to throwing it out a window ?
<3> i can't
<4> yes u can.
<3> besides i plan to use ezmlm for my www gui i'm orking on
<3> all i want to understand is why it wont use the proper config settings as the man pages say it should
<7> ok, it was ident
<7> grrrrr not sure why DMZing the box didnt' work
<7> but port triggering did
<7> I trigger on 25 and all is peachy
<7> thank you all for the help
<7> I've had the service providers looking at this and they couldnt' figure it out
<3> ..
<3> i think i somehow get it
<3> ezmlm-make -e /path/to/list will recreate the list based on the (i think) list/config file
<4> you want the list creation syntax ?
<4> i have all those one-liners in a notes.txt file
<3> than ezmlm-list /path/to/listname | ezmlm-sub /path/to/new-list/
<3> would subscribe all users
<3> yes
<3> pls
<4> i have to fire up my work laptop
<4> hold pls
<3> np
<4> gonna take a few mins
<3> atm i get this error:
<4> i know what youre getting
<4> dot-file
<3> failure: ezmlm-send:_fatal:_key_does_not_exist/
<4> oh thats a nice one
<4> hm
<4> hold pls
<3> nod
<3> :)
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