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<0> whats the best way to parse a string in python like some kind of string tokenizer
<1> .split()
<2> hi
<2> anyone else's seen a verbose regex parser...like a dictionary translator.........i want to replace this word if it's preceeds this and not after this
<3> you're better off doing that manually rather than using regular expressions
<2> but regex is hard
<2> i pull my hair out everytime
<2> success one time doesn't mean the next will be the same
<2> it'd be easy for the experts out there to translate english in some regex...maybe two or three suggestions
<3> and I'm suggesting that you DON'T use regular expressions
<3> regular expressions aren't very useful when you have to do conditional matching or look-ahead/look-behind
<2> oh
<3> anything you get working will be extremely fragile
<2> what do i use then
<3> search manually for the words and then backtrack
<2> i still don't know what you're talking about
<3> aString.find
<2> if i'm using sed today, you suggest i use something better?
<3> why are you asking in #python if you're using sed?
<2> it's generic
<2> like regex in python
<3> exactly, and so has nothing to do with #python
<3> try #regexp or #somewheremoreappropriate
<2> python has re
<3> so do a lot of languages
<3> that doesn't justify asking in ALL language channels which support regexp, does it?
<4> Is there some function list for php ?
<4> yyy ment python
<4> I want particullary my program to sleep for some time...
<1> http://docs.python.org/
<4> madewokhe yeah, I'm there
<1> http://docs.python.org/lib/module-time.html
<4> ok thanks madewokhe
<4> ok would you give some hints about inter-process communication in python ?
<1> not really :/
<1> I don't know of anything that works well on all platforms for ipc
<4> I want it to work under Linux
<4> on conventional PC
<4> Nothing more
<4> This can be done only by C ?
<4> I mean C extensions
<1> uh, normal linux ipc functions are available
<1> and there are bindings to dbus
<4> Althrough I seem skilled I know merely an ANSI C (maybe a few libs)
<4> I never done interprocess communication
<1> I don't really know how linux ipc works :/
<1> I just know it's there
<4> ok where's info about it ?
<4> Python/C API Reference Manual ?
<1> I guess
<1> that might not be the best resource though :/
<1> the python functions should be very similar to the C functions
<4> well they are mostly the same, there's just a big mess with python
<4> in C I always know what kind of value I can ***ign to variable
<4> and here I need only to say x = 1
<4> or x = foo
<4> no big difference - this messes everithing up
<1> I don't see how that's a problem :/
<4> becouse somwhere in the code I can forget about value of variable and then I must search through all the code to see what's going on (in I would just go to the start of the function and check type of variable)
<4> this is the less
<4> there might be numerous bufferoverflow attacks made on python program
<4> s/might be/are
<4> But it comes in handy sometimes
<3> huh
<3> ?
<3> what buffer overflow attacks?
<4> xihr for example integer overflow
<3> integer overflow is not a "buffer overflow"
<4> isn't ?!
<3> uh, no
<4> I always thought it is
<3> a "buffer overflow attack" has nothing to do with integer overflow
<3> well, good for you, but it's not
<3> (integers don't overflow in Python anyway, they convert to infinite precision integers)
<4> so Denial of Service can be made
<4> these integers can grow to heaven
<4> and eat all the memory then
<1> if you let people evaluate arbitrary expressions involving integers, sure
<3> if somehow the programmer is dumb enough to let someone gain control over their interpreter, yes
<3> but that's the most elementary part of security that it doesn't even need to be mentioned
<4> xihr you know that program usually interacts
<3> what
<4> with human or another porgram
<3> the type of exploit you're referring to can only happen if you execute arbitrary code from an untrusted source
<3> which is exactly equivalent to executing arbitrary machine code from an untrusted source
<3> except that it can't happen simply through a buffer overflow
<3> which still has nothing to do with integer overflow
<4> xihr let's say I make get() with no chcecking of lenght of input, it comes to bufferoverflow or denial of service
<3> get what
<3> are you talking about Python?
<4> some chars
<4> I done it a milion times in C
<3> this isn't #c
<4> it's surely similar in python
<3> so what is your point
<3> Python does bounds checking, it raises an exception if you go out of bounds
<3> maybe you should try learning something about Python?
<4> I need to come up with something until morning
<3> what "something"
<4> So I actually read about some of the functions
<3> what functions
<4> I'm writing a program
<3> I have no idea what you're talking about
<4> how do you name in python sleep() ?
<4> sleep()
<4> ?
<3> time module
<4> It's a function in C
<4> well yes this function is located in time module
<4> I'm writing a trigger for MUD client
<4> (Multi User Dungeon) An RPG game in the net
<3> I know what a MUD is, thanks
<3> what is your point
<4> I want my hero to harvest plants all day when I'll be sleeping ;)
<4> Ok so it's my question
<3> what is
<4> How do you make interporcess communication in py ?
<3> same as in C
<3> sockets, named pipes, etc.
<4> fork() ?
<3> no
<4> oh
<1> fork exists
<3> yes, but it has nothing to do with IPC
<1> it can in some situations
<3> nothing about IPC requires a fork
<3> you can use fork in apps which use IPC, but you can also use fork in apps which don't
<1> if you make a pipe before you fork, you can use it for ipc
<4> seems only sockets will do the thing
<3> how does that mean that fork has anything to do with IPC
<3> you can open files and fork, does that mean that file opening has to do with fork?
<3> that's nonsensical
<3> fork and IPC are related in the same way any two random programming concepts are related: they might be usable in the same program but that doesn't make them related
<4> xihr what's this WIDE project ?
<3> no idea what you're talking about
<4> they write that sockets are part of WIDE project
<4> http://docs.python.org/api/node88.html
<4> here
<3> no, that's not what it says, read it again
<4> ohhhhh mistake
<3> why would you care where the code is licensed from anyway?
<4> ok, so where are these sources so I can see them
<4> becouse theres nothing on this side
<3> why do you need to see the source to use python
<4> site*
<3> if you want the PYthon source, download the source tarball
<4> ok, so where would you look for an info about sockets under python ?
<3> are you asking how to use sockets in python?
<3> there's a URL to it on that page
<3> it's unimportant
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