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<0> xihr, Ive never had an issue that wasn't easily resolved in the ports system in fbsd
<0> and its pretty easy to manually do the port if the maintainer is slacking on a security/bug fix
<0> teabagging (U.S.) the act of inserting one's nuts into the mouth of another (of either gender), usually while they are sleeping
<0> lmao.. this list is cl***ic
<1> haha
<2> heh - you should spend some time reading random links on urbandictionary.com sometime ;-)
<0> heh, yea.. I know of that site
<0> I sometimes wonder over to grouphug.us as well
<2> SFW?
<0> yea, its safe
<0> just text
<0> but funnnnnnny
<2> always best to ask these things ;-)
<2> haha - that is hellishly amusing
<0> so when can we work out this case of Macs gold?



<2> *G* shipping it is going to be the hardest IMO....
<2> i.e. shipping it so that it doesn't break
<0> customs be an issue?
<2> possibly, only on your side if anything
<2> you just may have to pay duty on it.
<0> Oh thats no problem
<0> probably cost me a total of $100 for the beer + packaging/shipping + customs for a case of beer :)
<2> heh
<1> aloha malawar
<3> HI
<4> hi all :)
<4> how can i list all the attributes in objects?
<4> dir(objmycl***)
<4> give me some attrs but not __cl***__ for example
<5> Does here.
<4> which vers?
<4> i have 2.5
<5> 2.4.3.
<6> 2.4 is alpha
<6> err
<6> 2.5
<4> k
<5> 2.5a1 does it too here.
<4> windows?
<6> 1. dir works 2. you shouldn't be running alpha software unless you have an exceptionally good reason to
<6> wipe it and install 2.4.x
<4> k, doing
<4> no
<4> no __cl***__ in dir(obj)
<6> what is obj?
<4> in the interactive help i've defined simple cl***
<6> in the interactive help?
<4> create an instance
<6> well, you're doing something wrong you're not seeing; use a pastebin to show us
<4> ok
<1> dir(anObject) will do that Saibana
<1> hrm
<1> aloha
<4> http://rafb.net/paste/results/vFKaRr31.html
<6> you're getting the list and doing nothing with it
<6> print dir(o)
<4> yes my error in pasting
<4> print dir(o)
<4> show:
<4> ['__doc__', '__init__', '__module__', 'attr1']
<6> it's because it's old-style
<6> derive from object
<6> old-style cl***es have some "hidden" attributes
<4> oh ok thank u
<4> :)
<6> sure
<4> o.__dict__['name']= val it's equal to o.__setattr__('name',val)?
<6> or setattr(o, 'name', val)
<4> k
<4> why __module__ is readwrite? when is useful to change tis attr?
<4> this
<7> eep lag!
<7> this is like dialup
<1> re
<7> is it over yet
<4> someone know spyce?



<4> seems good no?
<4> what u prefer in python web apps?
<5> What is spyce? And please spell it "you".
<4> ok, sorry
<8> hey
<4> spyce.sf.net
<8> how do i take a HTML encoded string and convert it to UTF-8 encoding
<4> it's a python server page framework
<8> like &amp;hearts; to &#9829;
<1> kc: http://docs.python.org/lib/module-urllib.html
<1> kc: http://www.reportlab.com/i18n/python_unicode_tutorial.html
<8> uh yeh im talking about html encoded not url encoded though
<4> import htmlentitydefs
<4> ]]kc[[[ http://rafb.net/paste/results/cTDk9K53.html
<4> i've found this code based on htmlentitydefs on google groups
<8> ah word yeh i was just about to get to that
<8> thnx
<4> :)
<9> what is a good python book to get
<1> Dive Into Python
<1> and its free, you can download it online at www.python.org
<4> how can i know if a function is a method?
<6> is there any particular reason you think you should care?
<6> just call it
<4> only investigating
<6> there probably are some attribute differences you could find but they may not be guaranteed
<6> either way, you generally should never need to know
<4> can i use this __attrs__ ?
<4> or are some kind of reserved and to not use?
<6> __attrs__?
<4> betetr setattr() or __setattr__?
<4> better
<6> I've never heard of __attrs__ -- use it for what?
<6> setting attributes generally?
<6> use setattr
<4> clear
<6> looking at them, it looks like pure functions have func_... attributes, whereas methods (both bound and unbound) don't
<4> with __attr__ i mean any __*__ stuff
<6> but as I said, you probably shouldn't care
<6> oh
<6> GENERALLY you shouldn't be calling those things directly
<4> clear :)
<6> if you're manipulating a cl*** instance from outside, anyway
<6> e.g., use setattr, not i.__setattr__; str, not i.__str__, etc.
<6> you will use those things directly occasionally, like when relying on another cl***'s overridden behavior
<6> e.g., ParentCl***.__init__(self, ...)
<6> but for the most part if you have an instance and want to poke at it, use the higher-level functions and methods
<4> so only __init__ and __new__ are used sometimes?
<6> I wouldn't say only, but usually
<6> let me put it this way, if you're explicitly calling a __...__ method, you should have a good reason and know why you're doing it
<4> ok
<10> can anyone see a reason the final print statement wouldn't execute in this cgi-script snippet? http://pastebin.com/712806
<10> when I view source on the page it serves up, the code ends after the last iteration of the loop
<6> well you're doing something wrong there, that's not legal Python
<10> oh?
<6> the first triple-quoted string isn't terminated properly
<10> it ends with triple quotes...
<6> the thing you put in the pastebin doesn't
<10> <select name="state" id="state" value='""" + state + "'>"
<10> that's what I see for the last line
<10> """ + state + "'>"
<8> mm
<8> hmm
<8> UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\u2665' in position 0: ordinal not in range(128)
<6> ah I didn't see that
<10> ok
<6> it's more customary to use string substitution here rather that string concatenation, by the way
<6> faster too
<7> spyce doesn't look too bad...
<10> ok
<6> kc: it means you're trying to convert a Unicode string containing non-ASCII characters to ASCII (perhaps implicitly)
<4> exoxe: yes i find it more powerful than others web framework
<6> as for why you're not seeing the last print, I don't see it, the problem is likely elsewhere
<4> exoxe: i like the tags in python


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