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<0> i have a problem with swig shall i post it here?
<0> configure output is
<0> checking for Python lib dir... lib
<0> checking for Python header files...
<0> checking for Python library... Not found
<1> if you're using your distribution's python, you might need a development package
<1> that is all I know
<2> Hah: http://youtube.com/watch?v=49IDp76kjPw
<3> can someone tell me how do i use formating output with print ? to print stuff like "1/2" where 2 is stored in a variable
<4> "1/%d" % x
<3> oh, like in C
<3> print "1/%d 1/%d" %x % ((x-n) * (x*y));
<3> TypeError: not enough arguments for format string
<3> do you see any error here?
<4> not clear what you're trying to do
<4> do you want the first to be x and the second to be (x - n)*(x*y)?
<3> correct
<4> "1/%d 1/%d" % (x, (x - n)*(x*y))
<3> thanks
<3> !
<5> DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0
<6> A cheater!
<2> hmmm
<2> anyone here?
<2> as a computer language zealot I started wondering why do you actually advocate Python? You're smart guys so I'm sure you have made your tradeoffs after which you'll end up using Python with a probability higher than the average
<2> There are many good reasons to use Python, but what would be the essential one that eventually makes up your minds?
<6> First of all, there's no OTL. (One True Language)
<2> That's covered by the "you have made your tradeoffs" part :)
<6> Being interactive and highly dynamic, it's great for rapid prototyping.
<2> True; those are also traits that are not particularly unique to just Python
<6> No, there's Common Lisp, too.
<6> Python is not so suited with many developers collaborating; just look at how inconsistent the standard library is.
<7> what one do you like yason? thats the one YOU decide to use.
<2> hund: true, it seems to "suffer" from the same problem as Common Lisp: writing libraries and frameworks is so easy and exciting that everybody wants to do their own implementation..
<6> yason: The interesting part is never why you want to use a language, it's when you have options and have reasons for which *not* to use.
<6> Simply because nothing's perfect and never will be.
<2> this suggests that python is "good enough" wrt. many aspects
<2> AkDsL: I'm actually trying to figure out whether I perceive Python similarly to other programmers
<7> i understand, still comes down to what you perfer
<2> AkDsL: there are pragmatic, idealistic and intuitive preferences of which some can prevail, depending on each situation
<7> ya, im not gonna argue an opionion subject
<1> free scripting is nice :p
<2> AkDsL: an argument is something I'd like to avoid since it prevents me from hearing about others' opinions :)
<1> are you at all familiar with mIRC?
<2> madewokhe: non-free languages are probably a minority by now :)
<1> I mean free in a different sense
<2> not at all familiar :)
<1> not the freedom sense and not the price sense
<1> well, I'm sure you know it's an irc client
<1> but it has a very extensive scripting language
<1> nearly every part of the client, every feature in there and some other random things (like windows COM) have bindings in this scripting language
<1> I don't think it was planned that way; it just sort of evolved
<1> anyway, it's written in c or c++ I think
<1> to create something that extensively customizable in c/c++ would be extremely difficult because of the need to bind everything
<1> but if I write in python, I get the extensive customizability for free
<2> madewokhe: sure, but e.g. tcl and other scripting languages with easy bindings to C have been around for a small eternity
<1> I guess other languages have that too..
<1> but there's still a translation involved, which I think is probably annoying for the programmer..
<2> bbl
<2> re
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