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<0> how is everyone today?
<1> hot
<0> you're in sfbay?
<1> y
<0> cool
<0> hi YaroslavV
<2> xihr: does the bay area get hot? everyone keeps saying it's 70 degrees all year round
<1> "hot" meaning hotter than usual for us whiners
<1> San Francisco is right on the Bay so stays cool, the South and East Bay get hot though
<3> I want to move to S.F. ;)
<3> I hear they needs lots of new people.
<1> it's an obnoxious city



<3> Hahaha
<3> You're just trying to scare filthy foreigners away ;)
<1> politically insane to boot
<4> SF is great. Beautiful day here today.
<3> It has a track nearby (laguna seca), nice motorcycle roads nearby, nice nightclubs with liberal attitudes, the silicon valley, great weather all year-round.
<3> Sounds brilliant to me.
<4> Great food, too.
<3> Yeah, I bet.
<1> there's great food all throughout the Bay Area
<4> Yep.
<3> And from what I've seen in Bullit, the streets of S.F. are excellent to drive your V8 monster around like a maniac.
<1> heh
<3> Reminds me to go see that movie again. I loved it.
<4> As long as by driving around like a maniac you mean hitting a stop light every 100 meters and reaching a maximum speed of 25MPH...then, yes, maniac-city... :)
<3> Hehe ;)
<3> You guys don't have roundabouts do you.
<3> How...ineffective.
<4> Infrequently.
<3> I hear you've got this oddball traffic rule that let's you drive on red if there's no traffic from the left ?
<3> Or the right
<4> No. You can turn right on a red if you yield.
<4> But you can't just go straight through a red.
<1> that's state-wide
<3> That's right :)
<5> I thought you could do that anywhere..
<3> No way
<5> unless there's a sign that says you can't
<3> Do it here and you'd be fined a couple thousand dollars
<4> Wow. Where's here?
<3> norway
<5> I don't have a license to drive in norway anyway :p
<3> madewokhe: no problems, tourists can drive with their (american) driver's license.
<1> just not turn right on a red light
<5> I don't tour
<3> there's the occasional american nutjob who puts his car on a boat across the atlantic, then arrives by airplane later.
<3> must be expensive, but in one way I can understand not wanting a cheap rental.
<4> Most rentals in the states are really new. Hard to find a rental over a year old.
<3> Hard to find a car less than 5 years old here. High import taxes.
<3> So everybody drives around in wrecks.
<3> heh, lucasfilm.com has a pretty cute website.
<4> sweet. haven't been there before.
<3> You lucasfilm guys use python a lot?
<4> Yep, it's a standard...does my profile say Lucasfilm? Uh-oh.
<3> Yeah my /whois finger was twitching today.



<0> aloha
<4> oh, whaddya know.
<4> oh, well, no preventing that.
<3> Probably not too dangerous =)
<1> I was wondering why you would mention LucasFilm
<3> I've always put my real name in the IRC info, and I feel safe about it
<6> I just got a new job. It will be PHP developement (among other things). I wonder if my brain will explode after using a too damn crappy language for too long.
<1> well we'll find out, won't we?
<2> hahaha
<5> php isn't that bad, is it?
<6> xihr: Yup.
<6> madewokhe: No, it's worse
<3> madewokhe: It is really that bad.
<1> haha
<2> a lot of people seem to pour hate on it
<3> You know why PHP doesn't have a namespace? Because they couldn't agree on a syntax.
<6> Job looks good though except the php part.. looking forward to it :)
<2> lies
<3> iGGy: Ofcourse it's your duty to make them convert to Python ;)
<6> SgtUnix: Trust me, i'll get RIGHT on it.
<6> But modifying existing php projects to python won't happen.. :/
<3> Actually I'd rather be a COBOL programmer than a PHP programmer.
<3> Pays more too ;)
<6> I agree. Cobol is low level. I like low level. (I started with C 14 years ago)
<3> COBOL is low level?
<3> It's a business language
<6> Well, compared to python and php?
<6> I thought COBOL was sort of C-like? It's compiled into machine code, right?
<6> (i've never used nor seen much cobol code)
<3> Sure I think it's a compiled language.
<3> But it's far from C-like
<3> SUBTRACT B FROM RESULT-2 GIVING NUMERATOR.
<3> MULTIPLY 2 BY A GIVING DENOMINATOR.
<3> DIVIDE NUMERATOR BY DENOMINATOR GIVING X.
<3> Stuff like that.
<3> It's generally quite horrible, but it was still a major feat in its time. Many business schools still teach cobol
<6> oh. my. god.
<6> Just looked at hello world as well... ugh
<6> Cobol or Brain**** for next project.. hmmm..
<3> I'd do brain**** ;)
<0> hmm
<0> MySQLdb's executemany() is about two orders of magnitude faster on inserts
<5> faster than what?
<0> a normal execute()
<0> on multiple back to back inserts
<7> i don't have much gui experience with python/tk, but if I'm designing a simple app that rebuilds it's interface depending on which mode it's in, what's the best way for me to package each gui and it's ***ociated methods inside multiple files such that the gui methods remain children of the parent app cl***?
<8> how would i check in an if-statement if a cl*** instance is of a certain type?
<1> isinstance(anInstance, aCl***)
<9> SgtUnix: Phew, we thought you got a GF.
<3> No, struggling with a bizarre ipnat problem.
<3> Actually it looks like a hardware problem.
<3> Or a driver problem. hrml


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