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<0> efnet is "irc in general?"
<1> The thing is, they're talking about deporting Mexicans, not people of Mexican descent. There's a difference. One is a foreigner. The other is not.
<2> the people that make highways, with the burning hot 'asfalt' (dont know the word) apparently still wear those shoes to protect from the heat
<3> Pickle, hes trying to use populism to be president, but he will never be president.
<4> in-limboy you should go back to sticking your finger in the dyke and ponder your own intelligence :)
<0> bud` let me clue you in, i have only been on another irc net 3 times in my life
<3> he has the charisma of a sleeping bulldog
<5> You guys are missing the whole point. Over half the leading news stories on Dallas TV deal with crimes done by Hispanics. Rapes, murders, robberies, ***aults, carjackings, etc. Over half (and no Im not exaggerating). Tell me why again they are allowed to stay and commit more crimes?
<0> other than efnet
<6> FreeTrade: Not only will Frist never be President, he's pretty much ****ed the Republicans for making any gains in November, too. They'll be lucky if they keep the House.
<6> They won't deserve to.
<3> Pickle I agree.
<3> I agree 100%
<2> CometBaby: howcome?
<3> Hey comet !
<1> CometBaby: I stuck my finger in the dyke but she got pissed off and called her NOW friends to attack me.
<4> FreeTrade :)
<7> `426Hemi Efnet is mostly american, since the european and other countries split off to form IRCnet. That is my point, you cant refute it. that's that
<4> MR ROFL
<8> in-limboy: I wouldn't advise pickin a fight with her but go ahead...
<3> I think the republicans are their own worst enemies.
<4> in-limboy Warning: This is a debate channel .. stop making posts solely designed to aggrivate and agitate.
<2> Publius: Im not picking anything, she addressed me personally..
<9> pickle but even frist isnt talking about rounding them up at once and sending them away. we have deportation laws already and he just expects that it will be applied over time more effectively. his position isnt as radical as you make it out to be. not that i think most people agree with him
<6> If the Republicans are so tone-deaf and out of touch that they honestly thought that piece of crap immigration bill that came out of the House was a good idea, they don't deserve control of the House.
<8> I warned ya
<3> I waited 40 years well (I wasnt alive during rosselvelt) but Americans waited 40 years to have republicans take control of the government,
<2> I'm willing to debate whatever thing I talk about, CometBaby...
<3> Now the republicans are about to hand it back to the democrats.
<1> FreeTrade: Aren't you working today?
<2> it's not just random things to agitate people.
<6> redfish: No, he's talking about using legal means to force them to leave, which is no different than rounding them up at gunpoint.
<10> its not ?
<2> CometBaby: a debate isn't possible on issues everyone agrees on, anyhow.
<10> one is illegal and one isn't
<9> pickle but we already have deportation laws regarding illegals which is why it isnt so radical. he just expects them to be enforced
<1> CometBaby: You have cats, right?
<11> in-limboy, yes it is!!
<6> Making it impossible for 11 million people to stay in their country of residence is what it is, regardless of the mechanics you use to make that the case.
<3> Yeah, lets put 10 million people in prison and give them trials and put them in jail for a year and pay for it. And then lets arrest 10% of the buisness men in the USA and put them in prison for a year or more and pay for their trials and their room and board and thier destroyed families etc..
<3> Yeah Dumb is an understatement
<4> MR no. I love cats, but can't have them. Husband is allergic to them :(
<6> redfish: All that's important is that he expects to force 11 million people out of America, which makes him worthy of a trial at The Hague.
<2> Isorg: how is it possible?
<1> CometBaby: I have a hypoallergenic cat. Really.
<8> in-limboy: we deal with a lot of superflous BS here in the states, especially from European nations who are rather socialistic in nature. It is tiresome to hear about our lack of freedom from a nation that has high taxes.
<4> in-limboy .. posts like this:
<4> [02:36] <+in-limboy> I disagree with america's standards
<4> [02:37] <+in-limboy> some of the mosty hypocrite people claiming to be a free country
<11> in-limboy, er.... lol
<2> yeah
<0> bud`, no one is disputing that
<4> thats not debate .. those are posts designed to aggrivate
<2> and the person coming back on that was going to be right backl
<3> in Limboy, too bad disagree all you want, who cares what you think ?
<2> anyone willing to talk about it.
<4> they have no basis in fact
<4> America is free. We don't pretend to be.
<3> This is NORMALLY a free country.. Despite some recent bills in the house which would if p***ed make us much more like france.
<0> hahahhaha
<4> You want to see a lack of freedom .. go vist any communist country.
<6> There is no excuse for displacing 11 million people. None.
<1> CometBaby: We have our downside too. Always have.
<6> They're here illegally is not a valid excuse.
<3> Comet send him to france
<3> Or Germany
<3> Or even the UK
<2> okay, how do you explain all the more strict laws on basic human rights like, to mention something, gay marriage or abortion?
<10> pickle: but don't you run that risk when you break laws and disrespect the country of your residence ?
<2> or alcohol? or ***?
<2> or privacy?
<4> MR he didn't come in and say we had a downside. He said we are hypocrites who only claim to be a free country.
<3> Where They Lack true free speech, Actually the UK is pretty good take them out and I apologize to the UK people on channel.
<1> in-limboy: Gay marriage is a basic human right?
<12> Patriot Act... suspending the right of habeas corpus... starting bogus wars with our money...
<2> being gay is :-o
<12> America is free.
<8> in=limboy: Drinking alcohal is a basic human right?
<6> caspase: Tough ****. America allowed 11 million people to settle in America illegally. It happened, they're here, and forcing them to leave is an atrocity in the making.
<8> alcohol
<3> But to France, or to Germany where its a crime to be a nazi in conscience, not deed. mind you, its a thought crime.
<4> in-limboy what about them?
<2> yeah, publius, it is
<2> it's your body, in fact
<11> Pickle, or cleaning up a mess....
<2> and it's ones right to mess it up in whatever way you'd want
<3> I hate nazis as much as the next guy but thought should never be made criminal only actions.
<1> CometBaby; If, for example, he's a pot head then maybe he would see it that way. It's legal in the Netherlands but not here.
<8> in-limboy: care to tell us who the first free and democratic nation was, at least the first one since the Roman republic?
<9> freetrade the UK also has hate speech laws
<2> none.
<13> 1 who stops anyone from having ***, or drinking... and abortion is legal here gay marriage is not a right.. gays have the same right to marry that I do.. a woman can marry and man and a man can marry a woman
<4> MR .. thats fine with me. But that doesn't make us a country that only pretends to have freedom.
<6> lsorg: Yeah, I think that's how Milosevic called what he did.
<12> America wasn't free at its founding, don't even go there
<2> actually free.. psht.
<14> hrmmm 1000 fonts enough...or do I need more
<10> HEY - i resent that, i'm a pot head and live in the states
<6> "Cleaning up" people.
<10> its no big deal
<12> We had slavery and only a fraction of the population could vote
<3> Maybe I want *** with 13 year olds legal and I want a communist government and I want to kill all people from Helium 5...
<2> if you would compare america to other countries
<1> CometBaby: His statement was a bit out there. A trollish type post.
<3> As long as its a thought in my mind its no crime
<8> Anastasia: Who else could vote?
<14> FT...thats a Libertine
<6> The forced displacement of millions of people is something that the Soviets did. Are we the ****ing Soviets now?
<3> if i were to act on any of that, it would be criminal.
<2> I'd not call it a free country.
<2> unless you compare it to countries like iran...
<11> Pickle, nice, di you really think something like that would be allowed to happen in this country...
<4> MR .. you get it :)
<2> or any other sharia-based country
<8> in-limboy: compare away? you know nothing about America from these statements. that is why people get insulted bud
<3> Thats the basis of freedom of conscience to me the most fundamental and inalienable human right.
<1> in-limboy: Can you buy a copy of Mein Kampf in an Amsterdam bookstore?
<10> voting does not equal freedom, so dont even go there with the slavery thing
<8> you can tell that(
<6> The last time something of this scale happened is when the Soviets force-marched every single Crimean out of the territory.
<14> where from in-limboy??
<3> Cry, I am making a point about freedom of conscience vs actions.
<2> I believe it's on a blacklist, though I'm not sure.
<11> these "11 million" are breaking the law... they broke the law with their first step into this country.
<10> in the beginning it was recognized what 'all men created equal' would eventually do
<2> Holland, CryHavoc
<3> And how one is legal no matter how ugly
<14> ok FT :) noted
<3> and the other is illegal
<8> in-limby: you wanna tell me about the american blacklist?
<13> I have live in other countries, they can just bust into your home with no warrants
<13> whats your point
<1> in-limboy: So the Netherlands censors what you are allowed to read?
<2> I'll tell you that you have to be 18 to have ***.
<3> America does not punish people for thoughts any time.. ever.
<10> wow
<0> Go janet Go!
<3> Whjen it does they can get justice in a court
<14> ahh holland...the blessed land of EU tolerance,.......
<8> in-limboy: I'll tell you that you are wrong ;)
<10> you cant just go buy any book you want ?
<10> oh thats right
<2> I am? :o
<3> Americans are free to speak on anything they believe.
<3> ANything
<10> i bet you cant even wear a swaztika in holland can you ?
<2> whats the age then?
<8> in-limboy: depends on the state bucko. in mine, 16
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