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<0> stupid stupid Chinese
<0> Lawmakers, unhappy that America's deficit with China soared to a record $202 billion last year, are pushing a number of bills that would impose economic sanctions on China in retaliation for what critics contend are unfair trade practices that have cost Americans thousands of jobs.
<0> BAHAHAHA
<1> Detention of citizens was considered authorized by the 2001 Authorization of Force due to the statutory exemption clause of the statute that would otherwise prohibit citizen detainment (a relic of post-internment camp congresses)
<0> Let's see how "tough" they are on Iran now?
<1> But the exemption was specific to those working with or members of terror organizations that carried out or were affiliated with the organization(s) that carried out the 9/11 attacks.
<1> It didn't allow detention of anybody.
<1> And it didn't change the fact that citizens could challenge that detainment in court.
<0> ****
<0> FBI Director Robert Mueller said this week that his agency busted a smuggling ring organized by the terrorist group Hezbollah that had operatives cross the Mexican border to carry out possible terrorist attacks inside the U.S.
<0> Glock21: See that/
<0> that's a problem
<0> and one I haven't heard addressed yet
<2> Publius: What is going to happen if Iran fails to comply with the UN demands in the next 30 days (iran has already made it abundantly clear that they will continue to pursue their nuclear ambitions no matter what)
<1> Yup... time to open up immigration quotas for Mexico and focus on border security instead of xenophobia.
<0> yep
<3> Publius: there are plenty of rumors floating around about Border Patrol agents being told by snatched border crossers, "See those guys over there? They may look Mexican to you, but they sure aren't speaking Spanish."
<0> screw rumors
<1> And like all rumors... they are probably being spread by those with an agenda.
<2> Where are you guys getting this most troubling information ?
<1> Still seems like it'd be easier to come in through canada.
<0> And I'm not spreading rumors when I quote Mueller
<3> or maybe there *is* some truth to it when we hear stories like "FBI Director Robert Mueller said this week that his agency busted a smuggling ring organized by the terrorist group Hezbollah that had operatives cross the Mexican border to carry out possible terrorist attacks inside the U.S."
<4> the only thing i know about the FBI is
<4> hoover was gay
<1> Seems like most of the terror agents found to have come in to the US have come in directly, or came in through Canada with forged papers, legitimate papers, etc.
<0> Disco: I didn't take it and blow it up. There is a chance that this article left something out concerning when they sneaked across and if they were dealt with.
<1> Why risk getting caught by the border patrol when you can waltz right in?
<3> Wish I could remember where I read this week that some 600 Middle Easterners are snagged at the Mexican border each year.
<2> Are you telling me that there might be thousands of islamic sleeper cells residing within america right now
<0> Johan: LOL
<0> No
<1> Be tough to find sleeper cells without monitoring international communications between known terrorists abroad and the people they contact within the US.
<0> Johan: I am positive there are Terror agents spreading around news like that in order to detract from the real info, just like the **** with the War in Iraq
<2> There are thousands of illegal migrants infiltrating into america via the canadian and mexican borders each and every day..
<0> Johan: And any of them who are terrorist are being watched and crippled
<0> if not detained
<1> They're being watched?
<1> By whom?
<2> How can you be so sure of that ?
<0> not "watched" as in physically
<0> sorry
<0> per se, they will be "watched" if they do something indicitave of conspiring with terrorist
<0> I'm confident in that
<1> I'm not so confident.
<0> Do you think that there are dangerous plots being formed and worked out here in the states?
<1> Always.
<0> I'm "always" looking for it
<1> Hell even among just US citizens.
<4> i aint worried
<0> but I won't let spinners get away with scaring people or I will try and ease someones fears
<2> Well, all you have to do is listen to bin ladin's last message to the US
<0> I'm sure some citizens are
<0> heh
<0> GLock: but I bet there are a lot of citizens like me, college student, house wife, retired person, who are partaking in searching for these things and helping out our government in finding them
<2> Fear is good..fear destroys complacency and procrastination and leads to action
<5> Fear also leads to control.
<0> Johan: But too much fear leads to McCarthyism
<5> yeah.
<6> :publius
<2> control is necessary
<0> and the Bush administration is not doing that
<6> CONTROL
<6> herzen will teach you about control
<5> I am a firm believer in that control is absolutely not necessary
<0> I view the relationship with Canada as a vital relationship for the United States. The relationship, of course, is defined government-to-government. It's also defined people-to-people, and there's a lot of people in my country who respect Canada and have great relations with Canadians, and we intend to keep it that way.
<0> Johan: Our respective leaders http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/03/20060330-8.html
<0> We also talked about the mutual values we share: respect for human life and human dignity. And along those lines, I want to thank you very much for two things, one, the quick response that your government and your country gave to those who suffered by Katrina. It indicates the Canadian peoples desire to help humans when they suffer
<0> I appreciate very much your trip to Afghanistan and you and your government's support of their fledgling democracy, support of people that have been under the brutal thumb of tyrants -- so brutal they wouldn't let young girls go to school -- and it's representing the great Canadian tradition of really helping restore human dignity to people's lives.
<0> This is BUSH btw
<0> LMAO
<2> Canada will bail the US out in the likely event of a devastating terrorist attack on saudi oil production centers
<0> PRIME MINISTER HARPER: Thank you very much, Mr. President. (Speaking French.)
<0> Johan: I don't think they will with this guy
<2> Oh ?
<0> And as you know, we're cooperating on these things in places like Afghanistan, Sudan, Haiti. Canada and the United States from time to time will disagree on particular courses of action that should be taken, and we may have different perspectives and even different interests, but there should be no doubt that Canada and the United States share very important common values
<5> I think its in Canada's best interest to comply with the US right now. But maybe i'm wrong.
<0> values like freedom, democracy, human rights and the rule of law. We believe that these values are important not only for Canada and the United States, but they are the right of every people on the face of the Earth. We may disagree on how we get there, but that's the objective that we share.
<0> comply?
<0> they agree in morality and spirit
<5> as in, "yes, you're absolutely right Mr. President, anything you say"
<0> heh, doubtful
<5> This is the same president that decided it was a good idea not to get cheaper medicines from Canada
<5> because, as you all know, Canada is rife with dangerous medicines. Who knows what could be in them medicines!
<0> This is the same president that is victimized by so much spin everyday it makes me want to puke
<5> maybe thats a good sign of him not doing something right.
<3> Sure, open up the Canadian drug market to the m***ive American market and see how much longer drugs there remain "cheap."
<0> maybe that is a good sign of people being stupid
<4> hehe
<4> im gonna go buy my drugs in canada
<4> **** dis
<5> Publius: thats a very pessemistic view on humanity.
<1> _F... with the Canadian drug issue, try not to confuse the stated reasons which are completely politically motivated for popular support for the *actual* reason which include economic feasibility and realistic market ***essments.
<0> I however, feel that most people in the US like Bush
<0> anyway
<0> and the media is just having a love fest
<5> Glock21: point taken.
<0> or what Glock said
<0> lol
<1> If Bush said "We can't take Canadian drugs because they're all a bunch of dirty commies... and you don't wanna be a commie, well DO YA?"
<5> Publius: what do you mean having a love fest? like when they say that his popularity percentage is below 50%? (though I haven't even recently checked this statistic)
<4> this is actually a very complicated issue
<0> F: I don't mean to be attacking you if I came off that way btw
<0> now
<5> Publius: vice versa :|
<4> the reason drugs are cheaper in canada/etc is mostly because of the insurance situation in the US
<0> in reference to the polls
<1> Doesn't change the fact that the real reason remains that Canada has a market smaller than California's and by opening it to the US it would suddenly be trying to supply the entire US + an extra California.
<4> and the cost of developing drugs, which is truly amazing
<1> Just not feasible.
<4> basically, the costs of R&D are paid for in the US
<0> the media tends to only report the statistics that are supporting their agenda, which tends to coexist with the agenda of the democratic party
<4> whereas in other countries the drugs are sold at more reasonable prices
<5> Glock21: i dont' think anyone expects the entire Canadian drug market to supply the US. But rather, give people an option of buying Canadian drugs or US drugs.
<5> all this allows is competition at reasonable prices
<1> _F... well the problem is that competition is artificial.
<4> no, lets FIX the us healthcare system
<5> of course Canadian prices will probably shoot up, but if they go any higher than US prices, then people will just buy US drugs.
<4> :P
<0> There was no indication of what caused the vessel to overturn in what appeared to be ideal weather conditions. The government dismissed terrorism as a cause, and the news agency quoted Interior Ministry spokesman Maj. Mohammed Ben Dayna calling it an accident.
<5> which may have been what Bush wanted in the first place.
<1> _F... Not probably, they'd have to shoot up. The demand would be m***ive and the supply would be miniscule.
<5> see where i'm getting at?
<0> It's too early to say what caused the accident," Ben Dayna sa
<0> LOL
<0> OH NO
<5> Glock21: if we had issued a plan - say, in the next 10 years we can start buying drugs from Canada
<0> YAHOO news doesn't have the balls to suggest terrorism
<0> because to them it doesn't exist
<1> _F... doesn't matter if it is today, tomorrow or 10 years from now.
<5> Canada would realize "hey, we'd better start stocking up because demand will be unbeliable"
<4> who the hell reads yahoo news? :D
<5> Glock21: why not?
<7> ./
<0> nformation Minister Mohammed Abul-Ghafar, interviewed on al-Arabiya television, said the p***engers included 25 Britons, 20 Filipinos, 10 South Africans and 10 Egyptians.
<1> Because the stockpiling over 10 years would be pointless due to expiration of the medication.
<0> INFORMATION MINISTER?
<3> F: and when people have the option to choose between buying Canadian drugs or US drugs, the prices in the two markets will equalize. And since the American market is vastly larger than the Canadian market, guess which price they're going to equalize at?
<5> Glock21: ah, makes sense.
<4> that wont solve the problem, disco
<1> What good is it to have a temporary stockpile that's half useless, basically.
<0> Interior Minister Sheik Al Kahlifa said most of the p***engers were employees of a Bahrain-based company.
<0> which company yahoo?
<4> its really incredibly complex, but there ARE solutions
<5> DiscoTaco: regardless of prices, won't there be MORE DRUGS in the market
<5> that means less cases of people just simply not having drugs to get
<5> or is that not a common occurance?
<3> It's worth noting that Canada is not interested in being America's drug supplier either, because it would substantially **** with the current price regime that keeps them as cheap as they are, and/or cause a severe shortage of drugs available to Canadians.
<4> consider: malpractice insurance in the US is unbelievably expensive
<1> And even then the point is that it would be temporary... once the warehouses empty out, the problem is right back on you.
<5> say, with New Orleans?
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