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<0> well i think you can increase the history of changes in ps.. but im not a huge stills guy.. i rarely even use ps for more than maybe a matte or something
<1> do adobe for after-effects
<1> dont do adobe for editing video
<2> bud: but I bet I could har*** our diplomats or senators enough to do it
<0> well the integration is good and if you change some defaults it works ok for me
<0> and since its basically 'free'
<3> occ :) a major problem is that theyre so overpriced that good fonts dont get largely used .
<1> well, if you think photoshop is expensive, dont look into truly high-end graphics software :)
<0> i can do decent quick edits of raw source for my purposes with premier pro and can go back and forth to ae when needed.. i also have the ac3 stuff for adobe so i can master with 5.1 surround if i ever want to and so on :)
<0> tho encore kinda ****s for mastering
<1> ive gotta say
<0> STEEP learning curve
<4> most expensive software i have on my pc is Pro Tools. music software
<1> best reasonably priced video editor ive used (and USE) is "vegas"
<1> \you can get a free trial
<3> anyway occ
<0> yeah but i dont want a trial thats gonna cost me 600 bucks after i get used to it :)
<1> i think its $150 or something
<1> retail
<1> its comparable to avid
<1> which is ridiculously overpriced
<2> bud: I got an unvailable when I did a universal proxy search on an ip?
<0> i already have premier, ae production, illustrator, zaxwerks, ps, encore and audition but only use maybe 5% of the capabilities :)
<1> premier ****s, tho
<1> dont even bother :)
<0> its ok for a simple time line
<1> no its not
<1> hehe
<0> i got used to it a while back
<1> you can get cheaper and better software
<0> i can slap together an hour vid with probably 30+ edits and fades in like 2 hours
<1> i use audition, but adobe didnt develop it
<1> it used to be "cool edit pro"
<0> and thats mostly because im scrubbing and making editing decisions at the time of the edits
<0> with a regular keyboard instead of one of the video controllers
<1> my favorite is probably final cut pro
<1> unfortunately mac only...but
<1> mac's going to intel, so its only a matter of time :)
<4> Publius you what now?
<1> i shot a bunch of HD video tonight on my friend's camcorder
<0> wahaha they finally got smarter
<1> we'll hafta turn it into something
<1> hehe
<0> NOW the creative suite production studio ships WITH illustrator and PS
<2> bud: http://www.aliveproxy.com/whois/default.aspx
<2> bud: just testing out the system from a random ip in a nother channel
<2> lol
<1> dont go to adobe for video editing
<1> im telling you!
<1> hehe
<1> its not their forte
<0> i've mastered like 10 dvds for martial arts with it.. looks fine on my systems
<0> upconvert 720p dvd player, 62" dlp calibrated, etc :)
<1> im not talking about that, im talking about the user interface
<0> im used to it now :)
<1> im sure it renders video just fine :)
<0> keyboard shortcuts help alot once you know em :)
<0> it DOES **** the first say 30 hours you are using it.
<0> and encore is way worse than the rest of the stuff
<1> wait what program is this?
<0> me?
<0> encore? its adobes dvd mastering stuff
<0> and fscking UGLY for the interface
<0> there are tons of better programs but they range upwards of 300-500 to allow ac3 audio
<0> if its more than 2.0
<1> so its for doing dvds?
<1> or is it video editing
<0> no just mastering and menus
<1> ahh, i gotcha
<1> i cant really comment on that
<0> effects AE, basic time line premiere, when done -> encore
<1> i burn dvds pretty much straight rips, or with no titles
<1> its mostly just a video output format for me
<0> nah i put in chapter points, and menus and all that stuff
<0> this is a product for martial arts
<0> so it helps if they can jump to the right part of the 'testing' (say their test) or the right techniques from a menu
<1> yah, i hear that, definitely
<1> if you're producing a dvd, youve gotta do chapters and menus
<5> Is murdering a drafting officer morally justified?
<1> depends on your morals
<0> once the project is 'done' then its easy to use encore to make 'new' copies its close to being as fast as using say nero
<5> occ, do you think it is consistent with the argument of self defence?
<0> AND encore will let me 'copy protect' the dvds.. no macrovision2 but still flip the copy protect... not that i ever do
<1> well what do we mean by a "drafting officer"?
<5> occ, that I have the right to take anothers life if that person would take mine, or enslave me.
<5> occ, I mean a person that orders me to join the military, as part of a national draft
<5> occ, as in the one that will be implemented if Iran gets invaded.
<1> youd have to say wheter you're approaching it from a legal standpoint, or what
<1> now you asked whether it would be self-defense
<1> answer: no.
<0> you mean the one that would happen when iraq got invaded?
<1> the individual isn't attacking you
<5> occ, why would it be self-defence?
<1> i agree, its not
<0> a) the danger is not imminent b) you have other alternatives
<2> http://abovethewall2.blogspot.com/ <----- a blogger in Iran
<4> er wtf
<4> you may be in the wrong chan
<5> bun-bun, no Iran. Iran will be invaded this year.
<5> occ, aren't they in a way 'enslaving' me?
<1> not according to legal precedent
<0> yeah i know endthenwo but we heard the same thing about desert storm, afganistan and iraq
<0> and no draft happened then either...
<2> bud: me? lol
<1> if a draft were to be enacted, and you were drafted, then no
<3> occ Microsoft Expression allows you to treat bitmaps as vector layers so you can edit bitmaps nondestructively
<1> killing whomever drafted you would certainly not be "self-defense"
<3> i gave you a link..
<5> bun-bun, Afghanistan only took bombing...Iraq has been hard to maintain with current military levels, I think when they hit Iran, if they invade, they'll implement drafts.
<4> ENDtheNWO nope
<0> regardless.. i have heard the 'draft is coming' the 'draft is coming' like 5 times in the last 20 years.. it never did
<1> the military is strongly against drafts
<2> ROFL
<5> occ, is conscription mentioned the the Constitution or Bill of Rights?
<4> Publius no, not you, the guy with the obvious nick
<1> id have to check -- i honestly dont know
<2> bud: I didn't notice...bad eyes and focusing on something else...hehehehe
<2> too
<0> those documents are online....
<0> and searchable
<1> are you asking whether conscription is legal, or whether its going to happen?
<0> i think hes making a longer chain that that occ
<5> occ, no, whether it is legal, in accordance with US constitutional government?
<3> occ , ., youre not interested?
<5> Publius, you love the NWO?
<0> iran will be invaded, this will bring back the draft, he feels its illegal and not right and a danger to him, therefore he is wondering if he can kill the draft officer
<4> ENDtheNWO you are aware, that if an actual war situation arose, america could deploy around 5mil bodies right?
<4> the military will remain all volunteer
<0> what bud said PLUS without a draft
<5> bud`, what about Iraq and all the other US engagements?
<4> these skirmishes nowadays are absolutely nothing
<0> yep
<5> bud`, but Iran, occupying Iran would be a huge deal.
<4> the defcon/threatcon levels havent even changed
<1> dammit, redfish, im interested
<1> but its gotta wait
<4> once they do, you start seeing actual numbers
<0> plus if iran happens it will be even more multinational than iraq was.. more like afganistan or desert storm
<1> now i would say that yes, conscription is legal within the bounds of the US constitution
<2> bud: thx for this site....it should give me all the base info I need
<5> occ, why?
<1> why wouldn't it be?
<0> all this iran stuff is still posturing
<5> occ, well...wasn't slavery ended because it was unconstitutional?
<4> ENDtheNWO why occupy Iran.. most of the country is pretty pro west.
<1> slavery was ended by constitutional amendment
<1> it definitely WASN'T ended because it was unconstitutional
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