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<0> Hattin and Arsouf
<0> and then a devils deal
<0> from that point on Christianity and Islam Diverged
<1> sometimes it's hard for me to believe that so many extremely religious people exist
<2> If the protesting students really wanted to show the Anglos, they would remain in school, excel and go to college. Then they would start companies, get on the fast track of the Fortune 500 and spur breakthroughs in research
<1> it's just like how.......do they not ****ing think?
<1> i'm not trying to downtalk the concept of believing in a creator, that isn't religion, that's believing in a creator
<1> believing in all the bible stories
<1> that's what i'm talking about
<1> may as well believe in the easter bunny
<2> suna: what year is it
<3> uh
<3> that is religion
<1> I don't think I'd really feel bad about everybody in the flat earth society being murdered
<1> :)
<4> Publius: the current present war, not a perfect example but sufficient evidence it that some xtians have problems with muslims having more than one wife
<5> suna: Most people in the US do not believe in it literally
<1> I don't care about technicalities, you got the point
<1> I know publius
<0> bell..in France?
<1> but some do, and although it's a low overall percentage, it's still a big ****ing number
<0> lol
<2> hah
<3> any beliefs in imaginary supernatural entities constitutes religion
<1> I don't care about technicalities, you got the point
<4> Publius: its about oil, but since some argue it not being about oil i can argue like ^
<0> France is learning a harsh lesson in macro Economics
<2> what's the point
<5> jsable: On my side, the US..it is not being fought over religion. I do however believe some muslims, not all, are fighting for religion
<1> bellhaven: scroll up, i made it very clearly
<5> jsable: the intent isn't oil either
<5> not for Buash
<0> jsable..Iraq was not 'just about oil'
<5> Bush
<3> Publius: all are fighting for religion
<1> well, maybe not very clearly, but clear enough:)
<3> there may be other reasons too, but religion is always one ofthem
<0> jsable..we took out Saddam now to prevent a bigger war later
<5> suna: religion is not the intent of the US
<4> CryHavoc: true its more about forcing xtian idology upon others, if that was the answer you were looking for.
<1> I didn't say it was man
<1> i was just insulting dumb extremely religioosu people
<1> that's all
<1> they're stupid.
<1> :)
<1> utterly brainwashed.
<2> how so
<5> suna: I hope you aren't being foolish enough to include Bush in that
<1> I don't know how religious bush is
<4> CryHavoc: i do not know the reason men/machines go to war, i consider such understanding beyond my human scope of consciouness,
<1> most people i've met who say they're "christian" really arn't any more religious than believing in god
<2> perhaps
<2> even the demons believe in God
<5> suna: I'm glad you aren't insuating anything like that then
<2> so that isn't saying much
<3> god or demons can only survive if there are enough believers
<3> gods
<2> oh they can survive quite well regardless of human existence
<3> (see star trek)
<2> funny how humans think they have it all figured out
<3> no, they certainly can't
<2> pretty arrogant of them
<1> i was refering to those who believe in every bible story. That the earth is thousands of years old, not billions. That evolution doesn't exist at all. etc etc etc
<2> as if reality is confined by their pea brains
<1> people who will allow what their mama told em growing up to reject all evidence presented to them as adults
<5> suna: yes, that is a bit silly
<2> you cant see it, so it doesn't exist
<5> but their beliefs are there beliefs
<3> just like a character in a novel cannot exist, until the author writes about them in the novel
<1> blindly.
<2> brilliant strategy
<3> similarly a god cannot exist until someone believes in him/her/it
<4> CryHavoc: i'm just saying for me, i'll go to war to back a religions rights, such as islam and mormanism,,,for simple reason that if they hold such to be a part of their religion, then i defend them.
<0> www.dafont.com better than 1001freefonts.com
<2> panini: can you think up something out of nothing.. without drawing on any previous experience or concept
<3> yes
<2> no
<2> try it
<5> jsable: That is a rather American belief
<3> i do it often
<2> you do not
<2> you cannot even think outside your language
<3> it's called "creativity"
<2> you base it on previous experience
<3> yes, I can
<0> The Crusades were caused b a unique combination of religious factors....and mans capacity to grind his own
<2> no, you cannot
<4> Publius: yeah its rather american except in america we cannot have more than one wife.
<3> I can invent my own language
<2> based on what
<0> jsable...you are in the USA
<3> bellhaven: speak for yourself only. your limitations do not apply to others
<2> you didn't answer the question
<0> if you want Chattel women for wives,..the ME or Africa await
<3> yes i did
<2> no, you didn't
<2> what are you going to base your created language on
<2> ?
<3> nothing
<2> then you have no language
<3> I create it from scratch
<3> presto! it's there
<2> really
<3> really
<4> Publius: see i can argue that 911 was an act of brainwashed ppl, an act by an elite intel communaty against the m***es. and i'll argue with ONLY 1950 brainwashing tech level so as to prove my point.
<2> i dont see it
<2> it doesnt exist
<5> jsable: that doesn't mean IT WAS an act of immoral manipulation though
<5> you can however argue that
<3> islam justifies killing women and children, btw
<2> go ahead panini, think up something without bringing the word to mind
<4> NOW anybody here know of the man to woman death rate in iraq?
<3> bellhaven: easy. I do it all the time
<2> sure you do
<3> yup
<2> lies
<4> for this war or the one before? such numbers are SIGnificant to me
<5> jsable: You are rather logical in your thinking so I ***ume you have conclusive evidence of US immoral killing of women? OR I am jumping ahead of myself right now
<3> and I know I didn't think of the word, because I can visualize something totally new, for which there is no word
<6> jsable ?
<6> value of life by gender ?
<2> your thoughts cannot exist unless someone believes in them panini
<6> seems if the two are equal, no need to measure man to woman death rate
<3> i believe them, that's enough
<4> Publius: "immoral" i dont know about
<2> oh really
<3> really!
<2> you just said God cant exist
<2> unless someone believes in them
<3> no i didn't
<2> sure you did
<3> right
<2> so God exists
<3> unless someone believes in them
<4> Publius: you may view killing 10 to one men to woman as moral
<6> oh my, words inserted 'here' on IRC
<6> I just knew god would reveal god via IRC someday !
<5> jsable: I believe enlightened democracies with free speech and belief have a pretty good idea of what is moral and what isn't
<3> bellhaven: YOUR god exists... to you
<6> I do say, if we can have death row in the US, and IN the field, direct shot to take someone out -
<2> my God has nothing to do with your logical fallcies
<3> YOUR god doesn't exist for me, or for anyone else
<4> Publius: i'm saying yes last few "skirmishes" we have killed more women then men, Without any data otherwise.
<2> which you are stubbornly sticking to
<6> maybe it's better to turn death rowers back out so they can be taken out, as well, let's work the middle east into this too
<7> My God > Your God
<6> god immeasuralbe
<3> well, my god is Chtulhu. and most likely he can beat your god
<2> panini: you have about as much to do with my God as I do with your wordless thoughts
<0> here is a neat font.....
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