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Comments:
<0> there are like 8 crows
<0> and they will fubar anything
<1> they used to be cool
<2> Darth: seriously. exact proof please. He lied about them having nuclear capability. granted this is not uncommon for a president to do, but this didn't prove an Iraqi threat. Bush is still wrong, and his stance of immigration furthers his wrongness.
<3> Bush said Iraq had nuclear bombs?
<3> lied about Iraq's nuclear capability?
<3> oh the aluminium tubes.
<0> why even discuss such things
<4> immigration? what now?
<5> the house doesnt like the 'guest worker' program
<2> <3> even Cheney said they simply did not have any evidence linking Iraq to 911 <-- but he didn't say this before selling the war, did he?
<5> they want their bill p***ed and nothing else
<6> DO NOT bother #gbanow, someone is probably trying to frame them.
<0> what is the point of discussing wether Saddam HAD nuclear arms or wanted to GET them
<3> well, Bush never said Iraq was an imminent threat, just a Foriegn policy threat. and that he was gonna take care of it, which he did.
<0> its moot
<0> he wanted them, period
<7> they all said before the war there was no link to saddam and 9/11
<3> weboh, it was at a news conference pre invasion
<5> i hate this crap they keep saying
<8> bmc, There is a reason the house is called the lower body of congress and its not elevation.
<7> you people argue that they lied, and then you do not know what they said when?
<1> DarthBurg: NOW if you wanna talk about BS attacks let's talk about the Bay of Pigs
<4> Janet we need better quality trolls
<0> Weboh, Bill Richardson say that Saddam wasa threat
<3> weboh, if I had known people would be willing to revise history simply in an effort to "Get Bush" i would have kept better notes.
<7> Rebec.. I guess we do heheh
<0> Nancy Pelosi said Saddam was a threat in 1998!
<7> clinton said he was a threat for 8 years
<0> Nancy Pelosi voted for Saddam's removal in 1998
<3> Jay Rockefeller said Iraq was an Imminent threat. weboh still gonna pull the lever for a donkey tho
<2> Darth: Bush the 1st and 2nd shouldn't be defended as good republicans.
<5> i think everyone agrees with removing saddam
<0> in 2001 Hillary Clinton claimed that Saddam was the biggest threat to world peace
<5> its the methods they disagree with
<1> bmc: LOL...not everyone
<3> weboh, i can debate that, Bush 2nd spending for instance, Bush 1 tax increases for another
<7> kennedy and kerry said he was a threat in 98
<0> Al Gore "We know that Saddam seeks nuclear weapons, we have ALWAYS known this"
<8> I still believe they had WMD in Iraq and moved them just prior to the war, most likely to the Bekka Valley in southern syria
<5> most anti-iraq war criticisms ive heard were about the planning and execution
<5> not the goal
<0> that was in 2000
<2> DarthBurg: well there's a pampered source. An heir of Morgan-Chase from the Rockefeller nursery.
<9> Insect cyborg, a new breed of soldier | http://www.isn.ethz.ch/news/sw/details.cfm?ID=15278
<1> FreeTrade: Do you have a link to the supposed satellite photos from the Russia intel?
<8> Because you dont find something doesnt mean it didnt exist.
<3> weboh rockefeller? you bet, thats OLD money
<0> John Kerry "Saddam Hussien with Weapons of M*** destruction is one of the greatest threat rogue nations pose to this nation"
<8> People act as if not finding wmd is proof there were no wmd, it is not proof in the slightest, nor does it represent a fact.
<8> Its an opinion and nothing more.
<2> Publius: Spy-plane Satellite Photos?
<1> What is the name of that ex Iraqi general that wrote the book?
<7> Sadar
<8> just as my opinion that they had WMD and moved them just prior to the war is nothing but opinion for me.
<0> Sadr
<5> not finding them means the intelligence was inaccurate or outright false
<8> So how can you lie on an issue where no facts can be proven ?
<7> I read his book... it is good and he says they moved the WMD
<3> `426Hemi remember when I got that one dude all pissed for using a Chiraq quote on Iraq, saying it was Bush, getting him to say Bush Lied, then saying, Oops, I am sorry Bush did not say that.
<5> theres no way they moved every bit of material, and every vehicle, and every "factory"
<5> there would be something left
<1> JabetB: is the information confirmed by the US and other sources?
<3> boy did that lefty get bent.
<8> Actually the question of WMD remains an unanswered question.
<0> hahahahha Darth
<0> YES!
<8> Thats a fact
<3> YOU LIED he said.
<3> hahahahah
<0> Darth hahaha the dude just staright up left
<5> nobody doubts he intended on revitalizing his WMD program once sanctions were lefted
<0> he was like "ooops"
<0> hahahhaha
<3> no, i uh, got the Quotes mixed up sorry......
<0> *click*
<3> HAHAHAHA
<7> Publius..he was a general in the Iraqi army. before the war
<8> BMC, And there is no proof he didnt have wmd at the time he was accused.
<2> Lockheed Martin used to build Spy-Satellites. They are called Spy/Stealth planes by the way.
<1> JanetB: sigh I know...I believe him
<1> I just want to try and help the dolts
<8> Israel says he did and moved it. Some American Intelligence suggests the same.. But its not provable.
<7> Publius.. well there is nothing for us to give in that instance, as we were not allowed in country
<4> you got your nick back
<8> Based on Sattelite intelligence and movements.
<3> FreeTrade we have documents showing the Iraqi's moved it, we have an iraqi general who says it went to syria.
<8> Hey Rebec!
<8> Oh **** yeah
<8> I am not sure I want it now.
<1> JanetB: but we did have satellite intel of the movements he cited right?
<2> FreeTrade: How would they know, and how do they know how to make Atomic Bombs? oh the lies of the Belmont Brotherhood are interesting.
<7> Publius... I am not sure.. to be honest
<8> ahh well Nick makes no difference Ill keep this for awhile and then go back to the other one if neccesary
<5> of vehicle movement, and quite a few iraqi officials
<8> But there is an important lesson never ***ume someone is who there nick says they are.
<8> Never
<1> JanetB: no problem, I'm gonna get the book anyway. thanks for the name
<9> how about "stockpiles of weapons" and showing fancy powerpoint presentation to the un security counsil.... seemed like they really were talking about proven facts
<8> Always do a /whois
<8> ./whois me now
<1> ./whois FreeTrade
<1> oops
<1> haha
<8> Type this /whois freetrade
<4> oh yeah I just thought it was cool you got it back
<10> this /whois freetrade
<10> Nothing happened
<4> I never ***ume anyone is ever anyone
<10> :P
<8> FreeTrade is rwx@adsl-64-170-158-172.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net * Politics is bad for your health!
<4> hey glocky
<8> It should always be Pacbell
<11> weboh the knowlege of how to build a nuclear eapon isn't hard to get. hell all they need is the knowlege of a 4 year degree holder in physics and mechanical engineering
<5> politics IS bad for your health
<5> :P
<4> lol
<11> weboh the hardest part of a nuclear device in today's world is obtaining the fissable material
<1> DTA
<1> !
<10> Hi bec
<8> sntc or snfc and the 64-170-158-17? will always be there
<8> I automatically whois all people on msg if i am here or not
<8> its a good practive
<11> weboh hell, som years ago in he US, a highschool student was questioned by the FBI after he built a functional nuclear warhead minus plutonium for a science fair
<7> the book is called... Saddam's Secrets by Gen. Georges Sada
<5> you dont even have to be involved in politics, just following it and having opinions is enough to be detrimental
<8> you can set your mirc clients if you use mirc to whois anyone who msgs you
<8> Pacbell.net
<11> weboh so... frankly, that's a stupid question :)
<8> the last person had wrong.domain.name at the end of his address I have pacbell.net
<5> so what happens now anyways if the senate p***ed a bill with the guest worker program, and the house shoots it down, do they start over?
<2> KoBushi: no true. Noone will give you honest info on how it works. I don't think we would have given away the secret that easily. The thing is really hard to build.
<8> Really You may think you are talking in private and you are not
<2> *no=not
<1> get em KoBizzle!
<8> Not unless you whois someone, I neve tell anyone anything until I confirm who they are by more than their nick
<5> maybe they should approach it in 2 steps, firstly securing the border, before even thinking about what to do with the 12 mill in the country
<8> BMC, thats the plan so that nothing will happen later
<8> A comprehensive plan should be done now, do the whole thing.
<12> Gee, I wonder where Lithium- and ajofi went? Odd how when they are getting their ***es kicked for present, Lithium- has been idle 29mins 41secs, ajofi has been idle 30mins 15secs.ing lies and spin that they just disappear, and both at the same time. Go figure! :-)
<5> if they try to do it on one bill, theyll never get it p***ed
<2> KoBushi: I doubt the FBI has the inside track on a CIA secret by the way.
<1> TheTailor: LOL...cowards!
<8> And American Population needs to grow the **** up and act like adults instead of vigilante squads attacking innocent people.
<5> if they do security first, nobody should be opposed to that
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