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<0> later man
<1> I love 20/20 hindsight
<2> sintie : you know who General Thomas Michael Moseley is ?
<3> I am looking inot the future now you idiot.
<1> monday morning quarterbacks are always, you know ... so SMART
<4> I had 20/20 foresight
<4> I'm just not the president's personal friend
<4> so there's no way he'd hire me :P
<3> I am saying if this is a civil war and people 70 perent of the us does believe that hagel and allawi.
<3> That should change the plans some.
<0> i have cataracts foresight
<3> To east tension at the same time as routing out insurgents.
<3> ease
<3> To promise equal representation and ***ure no one will be left out of the political structure.
<1> rofl
<3> Something.
<2> sintie : do you know who General Thomas Michael Moseley is ?
<5> sintie: flee
<1> Timothy: you're very violent tonight ... what's the prob?
<3> He is a bio terrorist.
<3> Enemy of the State.
<6> TimothyT fatwah
<0> Hey I want serious opinions from everyone, let's actually talk about the damn issue and stop the crap. Anyway am i alone in not seeing an issue with dismantling the country?
<3> What?
<0> I say if the Kurds want a kurdistan let them have it
<1> Bokavitch: what country?
<3> without?
<0> Iraq
<3> Do what?
<2> sintie : wrong !!! General Thomas Michael Moseley is Air Force Chief of Staff and my forth cousin twice removed !!!
<0> split it up
<1> Bokavitch: that's kind of up to the governments in the region
<7> boka i agree they shouldve left it
<4> bokavitch: big problem with that
<3> So what?
<3> That qualifies you for something?
<4> some areas have oil
<4> some don't
<7> iraq wasnt a threat and it was stable with hiom in power
<1> Bokavitch: yes, balkanization worked so well in the Balkans
<0> hence the "if they want it"
<4> the groups without oil want the country to stay united
<6> TimothyT just cause people have 'thomas' somewhere in their name doesn't mean squat
<4> so they get some of the fat
<3> What does he think about getting out of the center of iraq?
<0> that's different though, the balkans can't really be compared to iraq
<2> bud : my mother is Thelma J. Moseley !!!! :-)
<0> the balkans were splitting off from a gov that was in power and in control, iraq has no central authority that can control the country right now and the power already lies with sectarian militias
<1> Bokavitch: everything is always different, unless you're trying to argue the other side
<6> TimothyT yes, and you've had dozens of grandparents. very confusing. most people have 4
<1> Bokavitch: could you name one place in the world where breaking up regions into ethnic groups has worked well?
<4> Bokavitch: the problem is that the groups want the oil
<4> if you split the country up
<6> OcDoc: NYC
<4> the groups without oil will attack those with oil
<1> bud: good choice
<6> lol
<0> The kurds wouldn't
<1> bud: great place to live too
<4> i think the kurds have the oil, boka
<4> i could be wrong though
<0> the oil is in the south mainly, they have no inteentions of controlling it
<2> Little Biddle Fiddle Iraq can't be Splittle without a Fiddle Diddle !!!!
<1> bud: whenever the city workers aren't on strike, at least
<0> nah, mostly in the south
<4> ah
<2> hahaha
<0> near Saudi arabia and Kuwait
<0> hahaha
<1> little miss muffet sat on her tuffet eating her kurds and whoa!
<3> Iraqs borders are drawn by europeans.
<2> ahahaha
<6> give a dog a bone
<0> And in response who womever asked earlier where splitting countries by ethnicity worked, i'd say Ireland breaking from the UK has been a pretty big success
<1> bud: don't whack Paddy
<6> cock, hickery ****ery
<1> Bokavitch: oh, yes ... no violence in Ireland ... no siree
<6> down, we all fall
<3> As a doctor do you treat symptoms or try to cure disease?
<0> It's been a lot more stable
<3> Both?
<2> I need air in my vains.
<0> and the economy is booming
<1> sintie: both
<6> TimothyT air in the veins would most likely be fatal
<0> Republic of Ireland is the envy of the rest of the EU
<3> Right so it matters what you call something right?
<4> actually that's a myth
<6> unless they are tiny tiny bubbles
<5> bud: sooooo
<4> it takes a substantially large bubble to give you cardiac arrest
<2> bud` : nah I am talking in my air veins in my nose.
<1> about fifty milliliters
<3> You treat a disease with similar symptoms different from another disease with similar symptoms sometimes.
<6> man I was donating plasma, and when they hydrate you after your done, I was watching the return line, and I swore there were little tiny clots going into my arm from the machine
<1> sintie: I'm not sure where you're going with this totally irrelevant simile
<6> which spooked me
<3> You know it leads to me being right so you say irrelevant.
<1> analogies have to have some connection to the point you're trying to make
<3> And I mean you would answer if you thought it was going to turn out you were right.
<1> this isn't a disease, it's violent ignorant people shooting at each other
<2> bud` : what company was you donating too ?
<3> I am saying you can say there are people dieing so try to stop it.
<6> zlb plasma
<3> But if know why and take that into consideration doesn't that change the affectiveness at wich you stop the killing?
<1> sintie: you can say that but it has no possible connection to reality
<2> bud` : oh
<1> sintie: big ****ing "if" ... IF you know why, which I don't accept
<2> bud` : is that a Centeon Plasma Corp branch off or do you know ?
<6> no, its ZLB
<4> i just say we turn the whole middle east into the world's largest mirror
<1> sintie: I don't accept the idea that YOU know what's causing the violence in the middle east
<2> Zeta Labs ?
<0> anyway... still waiting for someone to tell me why giving the kurds independence would be bad
<3> Reality is you try to get to the root of problem and treat it because it will likely always be better than a blanket treatement or treating based on a misdiagnosis.
<6> i dont know. its zlb. they are global
<3> But you do?
<3> But you know the president does?
<1> bokavitch: you don't have the power to give the Kurds independence ... only the Turks have that
<4> you know istanbul was constantinople
<0> We have the power for the southern kurdish regions on the iraqi side of the border
<4> now it's istanbul, not constantinople
<3> Northern Iraq?
<0> i'm talking about iraqi kurdistan
<0> yeah
<1> sintie: I have an opinion about why ignorant, violent, religious tribes from 1100 AD tend to want to kill each other, yes
<3> Long time gone constantinople.
<6> you go and watch a movie, they take blood from you spin it in a centrifuge to get the plasma out, return the red blood cells to you along with some fluids to hydrate you, you get $60 and go home
<0> YOU GET 60?!?!
<1> Bokavitch: that's not what the Kurds want ... they want ALL of Kurdistan, which would piss off the Turks
<0> god utah ****s, we get 25
<6> but i was really concerned when i saw what looks like tiny blood clots being put into my arm
<4> those are "love" clots
<1> Bokavitch: have you thought this through? or are you just making glib easy "solutions"
<0> OcDoc: yeah eventually but i don't see how it's our problem
<4> OcDoc: Politicians only feed us glib easy solutions, if they feed us one at all
<6> Seamus what are you talking about.
<0> I have a letter in my hand from Orrin Hatch that says Turkey is no longer vital to US interests
<4> I don't see why people in an irc chat can't do the same
<8> we gave em a chance and they still fight, not our fault
<1> Seamus: by all means, make up glib easy solutions for IRC
<4> Bokavitch: is this a personal correspondence?
<0> yes
<1> okay ... I better try to go back to sleep ... laterz guyz
<0> i wrote him during the build up to the iraq war and he responded with a pretty lengthy letter stating turkey was no longer strategically important to the US
<6> no rest for the wicked
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