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<0> and fatah did steal many many millions of foreign aid from palestine, just like arafat did
<1> well fatah failed to destroy israel
<2> Hamas won because the people think they will win against Israel
<0> and they don't like it
<0> and that is the good part
<1> so they voted someone else in to give it a try
<3> TheTailor: I never said Hamas is good. No wonder you are having a hard time following along. You seem to have a reading comprehension problem.
<2> DiscoTaco, Hamas would say ANYTHING to win
<2> DiscoTaco, well no, you implied they were good by saying they provide services that weren't available before, which of course is pure bull****.
<0> civil war in palestinsaudi steps in and further radicalizes palestinians. that is what we have to look forward to
<2> DiscoTaco, and don't start demaening me liek you do others, I won't stand for it.
<1> DiscoTaco: did you know Hamas is *officially* cl***ifed as a terrorist organization?
<2> demeaning rather
<3> TheTailor: I'm not talking about Hamas' intentions. I'm talking about why they were elected and what it means as a statement from the Palestinean body politic. It may very well be that Hamas lied its way into office. Hell, it's even likely. All I'm talking about is WHY people voted for Hamas, and it's not as simple as "they want to destroy Israel."
<2> DiscoTaco, I don't have any comprehension problem whatsoever.
<3> TheTailor: i really don't care if you stand for it or not. Don't put words in my mouth. If we can't reach that understanding, then go ahead and -v me.
<4> DiscoTaco, you are devoiced (Requested by TheTailor )
<0> hamas is still terrorist. i don't think they have been de-terrorist-ized
<0> they ****ing kill people on the streets
<0> good thing palestine only has a few million people. its not like africa or something, whre there are oops a few million people
<1> oh discotaco is drover
<2> He'sjust being a prick
<0> screw the infighting. the probelm is that palestine is going radical, more radical than they have been
<0> and it will be our fault!
<0> tailor: disco is a good guy
<5> The libs are already blaming Bush for the Hamas win because he encouraged democracy in the Middle East.
<2> tttwisted, perhaps, but i'm not taking his insults.
<5> They've been doing it ever since the news broke.
<0> tailor: i don't blame you.
<0> tailor: those palestinians are tipping the world balance
<0> the middle east has to support them. its going to cause a closure of dipomacy
<2> Those Palestinians are nothing in my opinion
<2> Wall them off and let the bloodletting begin.
<2> A population of criminals
<0> they will have civil war for at least 2 years. then prolly totalitarianism
<0> and israel next door
<0> this makes it even mopre important whether iran gets nukes
<0> i need an excedrin
<2> Totalitarianism? They will be killing a leader off every 6 months.
<0> the palestinians are crying out for a totalitarian govt
<0> they will get it, prolly from saudi arabia
<0> and we will stand by and provide commentary
<0> it so ****s
<0> maybe syria, but i dont see that they have the resources to do it
<0> saudi does
<2> It ****s because they are a population that supports murder as means to get what they believe is theirs.
<0> jordan has the prestige, but not the will
<0> jordan is too close to acceptance in the world body
<2> Saudi wantss that ****? I don't tink so.
<2> think
<0> lebanon and egypt are just not outward looking yet
<0> syria is facing its own war
<0> i think only the saudis can take -palestine
<0> and i think they will do it quickley
<0> and we will provide commentary
<0> wahabbi palestine
<0> pshaw
<0> they asked for it
<0> let the heads roll
<0> it will be an interesting contrast with israel, though
<2> I agree, let the chips fall, and if that means they lose half their population, so be it.
<0> i think saudis would rather not have a palestinian state. but, i don't see any other arab state strong enough to take the responsibility. and western civ is not going to take palestine
<0> they are doomed
<0> yeah, the palestinian coffers are dry
<2> OR
<2> They could quit the ****ing murdering of innocents and get on with life.
<0> or what?
<0> after only about several thousand years?
<0> maybe
<0> i am optimistic
<0> i am
<2> They could live on the west bank and in Gaza and stop the attack on innocent civilians, gee, what a concept.
<0> even jordan will not take palestine. and the palestinians are jordas
<0> its sad, this is going to be like africa. yet another civilian m***acre. on tv. red rivers. nasty
<2> Jordan gave them the west bank, it's not enough.,
<0> jordan kicked the palestinians out of jordan. before jordan was jordan
<2> I don't find it sad at all.
<0> that place is tribal
<6> i say we dont even send troops in iran
<6> just bomb them
<6> if were going to fight there
<6> we need their oil first though
<2> No we don't
<0> i think its sad when the human cost is high. i want human beings to have dignity. i don't see that for the palestinians. and i think they were just voting against corruption of fatah. fatah took all that money for years. since arafat and before arafat
<0> the us will never send troops to palestine
<2> tttwisted, those people are asking for that cost by doing what they do, they support murderers.
<0> not going to happen ever
<6> all i know is if hillary clinton runs for president
<6> were screwed
<2> krouton, no we aren't, she will lose.
<6> yeah i think so too
<6> she doesn't stand up for anything
<6> what's a filibuster
<0> filibuster is blocking a vote of the senate
<0> its not really a vote, its blocking a vote
<2> I hope those idiots try it, and the GOP uses the nuke option
<0> i think some guy was named phil bustier :D
<0> like, black lace
<6> lol
<0> ahaha
<0> there was no tv at the time, so we don't know\
<0> it was a puch up bra tho
<0> the nsa censored the history of the filibustier
<0> hoover did it
<0> he wanted all the bustier for himself
<0> tailor: tell him. you know this stuff, as you are a tailor
<1> doing alright, little jiving on a saturday night
<0> its a clothing thing
<1> wait
<1> you mean TheTailor is really a tailor??
<0> thre are not enough votes for a filibuster
<1> holy cow
<0> tailor is a manufacurer
<0> i am abusing his nick.
<2> A small small manufacturer.
<0> just like, you are not really a sandwich.
<0> ahowever, i am twisted
<0> my mom the liberal is alarmed about the vote in palestine
<2> t's just more of the same to me.
<2> It's even
<0> the thing is tho, they had this moment in the sun. and they chose the killers
<2> That doesn't shock me.
<0> its ugley to see, and hard to explain. but it can be done. you can explain why they did it
<0> but now we have to observe the effect
<0> and that will not be easily explained
<2> They did it because they are apes that support murder as a solution.
<2> I don't find that hard to understand.
<5> "apes"
<5> Meh...
<2> So are those Jews that are in the settlements, they deserve whatever they get too.
<2> I just don't see the big problem, get rid of the settlements and build the friggin' wall.
<2> Give them their land and let them sink or swim.
<5> Apes, cockroaches, undesirables... whatever the subhuman terminology used, it always makes me twitch a bit.
<2> Fine, they are kind and gentle people, now wall them off and get off their land.
<5> lol... just because they might be vile people doesn't mean they aren't still, in fact, people.
<2> Let them be whatever they want to be, on the other side of a wall and minefield.
<2> They will not be peaceful, do not mess with them, just let them be.
<2> All that will solve it is when the murderers are shown to not be doing any good for the people, THEN they will turn around.
<2> That's another 50 - 150 years before it will sink into their heads of course.
<0> glock: that is my dilemma....i know they are just like me. but they are so radical.
<2> The dumbest people on Earth, that includes the Jews that are on their land.
<0> its difficult to see what to support
<2> They ARE NOT "just like you" YOU do not support murder.
<0> they have children. they eat meals. they are mostl;y like me
<7> minefield???
<2> They send those children to their deaths
<7> Pals again?
<2> Without blinking an eye
<0> i do not understand the urge to kill. i just don't get it
<7> tttwisted!!
<2> tttwisted, do you strap explosives on your kids?
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