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<0> I pay 2.55 per gallon canadian not including fuel tax
<0> cheapest in the states right now is I think 2.57 or so not including fuel tax, but thats USD
<1> well, you should include the entire price
<2> The Six Flags park here had the least people I had ever seen, even on a rainy off season day... at one point there was nobody in the lines for their biggest coasters
<3> But that'll change now that the province (and soon, the entire nation of Canada) is going to start mandating ethanol additives like they do in the USA. Then diesel will be way cheaper.
<2> It was amazing
<0> tortus... not really, thats not how it works in the trucking industry. You do pay fuel tax at the pump, however if you overpay for your quarter, you get $$ back
<0> and how much fuel tax you pay for the quarter depends on where you drive
<1> oic
<1> how do you keep track of that?
<0> the company does, actually they have a program that figures everything out, feeds in the info from our dispatch, verifies it through satellite
<1> you write down your odometer reading at the state border?
<0> figures out how much fuel you burn in each jurisdiction, and from there figures out the total bill
<0> so if you burn 100 gallons in NY you owe NY $40 even if you didn't buy a gallon of fuel there
<1> those bastards
<2> everything in NY is overtaxed
<4> everything in just about every blue state is ovetaxed
<5> there's a station nearby where CA rapes all the truckers
<5> off the 101
<0> yeah my dad was supposed to go there he was **** scared
<0> instead hes going to upstate NY
<0> MUCH better
<0> lol...
<5> I see a lot of trucks on this one back road tht would avoid the station - maybe that's why
<0> you can get fined for that
<5> I guess
<5> but they can say they have legit reasons to be on that back road
<5> some of them probably do
<6> US-Male thats when the highway patrol busts out the portable scales
<5> every now and then I see CHP has a truck pulled over for not stopping , on the 101 freeway
<6> they do that here along the roads truckers take to byp*** the station
<5> what if they really need to deliver or pick up on the back road ?
<5> now that I think of it though, I don't think an 18-wheeler can get far enough on that road
<6> then the manifest would show that?
<5> the road does go through, for me.... but several turns could not be done by a 18-wheeler
<0> you might be surprised :P
<0> ive been in some ****in tight*** places
<5> heheh some of these are barely doable by car
<5> err SUV
<5> I suppose you might be able to but oncoming traffic, etc...
<5> it would create a lot of problems
<5> I bet they pretty much have to go by the checkpoint unless they went on the Pacific coast highway
<5> which is only two lane... trucks probably banned there
<7> Who?
<5> or way out in the desert area
<5> truckers
<0> yeah I have to drive in oncoming all the tim
<0> **** some right hand turns you gotta be totally in the oncoming
<5> yeah but this is through mountains
<0> yeah
<5> I forgot to mention that part...
<0> theres probly a whole ****load of restricted highways then
<5> that's mostly why the lack of alternative roads
<0> i know in cali you gotta have your tandems slid up further then every other states
<0> probably because of some of the mountain roads
<5> Kung Fu Hustle is on =)
<5> that is one funny ****in movie
<6> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku2igd5z-jk&search=knockout
<8> ya know the usefullness of the latest and greatest firefox addons, if they are any indication of what is to come for say the rest of the open source community more specifically the linux community then.. watch out the Penguin gonna rule
<9> penguin will never rule and i only use linux
<8> sure it's possible...... i been thinking about this after a beer or tewo so I know these things
<10> I haven't had a beer
<8> seriously though... ok once the programs get to a certain point of usefullness and features.... it won't take much effort to maintain and just bugfix
<11> Ife: yea, I think about that all the time
<11> Ife: say if X and OpenOffice get to a point where they don't **** ***
<9> software is really hard to install, everybody writes their own library, 10 different ways to do the same thing, broken links and dependicies, a standard prgram may be put in three places
<8> and add features rather than just write whole new programs
<11> toecutter: that's why you get a distro
<11> toecutter: like Ubuntu or what have you. They take care of that for you
<8> toecutter, yea no.. ya need to look beyond the current situation
<11> Ife: already in a lot of countries things have gotten to that point
<8> the current situation is changing
<9> gust, then you have 10-20 distros, many have quirks here or there.
<11> Ife: in a lot of 3rd world countries mid/small business won't buy MS anymore
<10> **** software use only low key programs like you are using a high end product.
<8> gustavo, yup.. they are going to help propel the os forward I'd wager
<11> toecutter: I totally agree, but you just install the ONE distro for Aunt Marge, or for the accountant business, and they don't ever need to know what a ****ed glibc-kernel-X all are
<11> Ife: in Brazil, where I'm from, people already on't buy MS - because the cost of licensing for the local market is a much bigger deal than here in the US
<11> The only issue is how much X Windows still ****s
<8> heh yea one doesn't make much money over there
<10> business accountants aren't suppose to be nerds.
<11> ThomasWT: but they don't have to be. that;s the point. Get stuff installed for them, and off they go
<11> I just went thru installs of a bunch of distros
<11> And was appaled at how much the Linux desktop still ****ed
<10> everything ****s
<10> go use too it.
<11> ThomasWT: uh, then everything doesn't ****. It's all relative mate. If everything ****s, nothing ****s
<11> The only distro that got everything right in X Windows (touchpad, sound, graphics at full color/resolution) was Ubuntu
<9> gust, but sooner or later something is going to break on their system, they wont be able to wander throgh the commandline to fix it. Their dual screen wont work. their skype wont do video.
<8> well Linux has its targeted uses still
<10> everything about a computer ****s !!!!
<11> toecutter: hmmm. I disagree. If they stick to using OpenOffice/FireFox/Email client, things will run fine
<11> toecutter: no different than Windows there
<9> gust, i use kanotix
<11> THomasWT: computers are the most beautiful machines ever devised
<8> but the thing is if you look at linux 5 ears ago... and compare it with today.... it is sooo night and day
<10> so
<11> Ife: sure
<11> Ife: I agree, and I mostly agree with you
<11> Ife: I don't know _how_ this will not happen (ie, OpenOffice and friends get to a point where they seriously screw proprietary software)
<12> RH 4.2 on a EISA 486/ SCSi was my introduction
<11> Which frankly I don't even know whether I like or not
<9> well linux will still have all the emacs is great vi is awesome people, they dont realize those programs ****.
<11> Yea, I've been using Linux since Slackware
<8> well OO has an advantage here over linux
<11> I think my first kernel was 2.0.20 or thereabouts
<11> toecutter: hahah I love emacs :P but yea, I get your point
<12> 2.0 was mine. I always thought Tx should be drawn with a tutu for 2.2 ;)
<12> tux
<11> (I love vim too)
<8> and OO will help .. OO is a smaller program to get to perfection
<12> but
<11> I mean, when you think of MS Office
<11> ****, that thing has saturated beyond belief
<8> and I'd wager OO has or will have a bigger writer base than MSO and will go beyond
<11> It's not like it's a moving target
<11> If OO/Linux desktop matched what MS had in 2000
<11> MS would be ****ed
<8> google already hired a coder base inhouse to work on OO
<11> FireFox obviously did that wrt web browsing
<11> I mean, even on Windows most of us use FireFox already
<12> I have played with Linux, BSD bot Free and Open, BeOS, Mac OS 6-9.2, OS X up to 10.4, DOS (all), Windows (all)... and I have no religious affilitaitons, but prefer OS X
<8> yes firefox with its addon it amazing really
<8> compare with IE
<11> I have absolutely no religious affiliations either
<8> addons
<11> But I work on the Linux kernel quite a bit, and I write a lot of Windows software too
<11> So these are the two systems I know
<12> I am not a programmer by trade.
<12> I can, but I do not
<9> OO compared to Office, generally ****s to be honest. I know people that used firefox for a couple months then switched back to explorer. Too unorganized.
<13> too unorganized?
<12> I work a curious form of tech support
<8> I dunno just the whole philosophy to me of linux makes it the winner
<13> firefox is no less organized than explorer!
<11> dude, firefox kicks ***
<11> I despise when I have to use IE for whatever reason anymore
<13> open office is sometimes clunky but, it's just as good as office for at least most end users and works great.
<12> Firefox is closer to a standard, IE never saw a standard the could not break.
<13> though, it takes some getting used too.
<11> OO compared to MS Office definitely has some catching up to do
<13> well depending on what you do, yes.
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