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<0> bot access eh
<1> Dominus: no, you simply have to say something that the ops/vops don't agree with and then they devoice you.
<2> this guy angelides running for governor of cali...neat. My dad knew/worked with his brother in the past, not that he's talked to him in like 20 years, but still:P
<3> Oh, alright.
<0> L0c0 - sssshh
<4> Dominus - you should google efnet or irc help
<0> you're given away all the secrets
<4> go read
<5> L0c0, or you break the rules, and racism isn't allowed here.
<1> WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Two teams of government investigators using fake documents were able to enter the United States with enough radioactive sources to make two dirty bombs, according to a federal report made available Monday.
<0> I hate being told to go read
<1> i see that **** and wonder how the hell the gov't can say the borders are ok
<3> Nemes: this is the only channel that uses this system, I was just wondering if requesting for a devoice was restricted.
<0> I bet it is
<4> DrDetr0it, only people i hate being told to go read from are the linux community :)
<3> (only channel that I know of anyway)
<4> other than that its all good
<0> Nemes- yes, no man -k for me today
<4> :)
<3> Does this channel have a website
<3> ?
<0> or pipe to greenbar eh - then take it to lunch
<1> locally, sheriffs in Hudsbeth county caught 70illegals at a temporary inspection checkpoint that was setup to check drivers for drivers licences and insurance
<4> Dominus, it did not so long ago dont know about now
<1> the 70 illegals had already gotten past the border and past a border patrol checkpoint along the same highway about 40miles up the road
<0> the 70 alleged illegals - cough
<4> i stopped looking t it a while ago since the union ajck still hasnt been put on it :)
<6> www.ircpolitics.org?
<1> now...imagine those are terrorists...if not for these sheriffs...how far could they get?
<0> oh, I suppose immigration has it's hands full
<5> Dominus, yes, www.ircpolitics.org
<4> heh petty i know but hey :)
<1> even if not terrorists
<3> Thanks
<0> they oughta move the statue of liberty to mexican border - just to confuse the ones that read english
<1> say there's a couple among the 70 that are child molesters, or murderers, rapists
<0> they'll read that sign and go- ?
<1> and if they can get past the border, they can get past the other checkpoints...once they're past those checkpoints, america's wide open
<0> L0c0- say we fantasize about some other people in there too ? let's throw in a satanic worhsipper and hmm
<3> DrDetr0it: and don't forget the fags!
<0> yeah
<0> those those damn non-americans
<1> point being for all the "Free the borders" types, is that since you CANNOT know who's coming over illegally, you CANNOT say for certain that 100% of those coming over are only "coming here to work"
<1> we have to have a damn system in place
<1> a system that must be respected by those wishing to come to the US and by other gdamn countries
<1> especially mexico
<3> They might all just have a tourist visa, but didn't feel like waiting in line.
<0> about 10 years ago I saw some projection spanish being #1 language by 2020
<1> if you have a tourist visa, you can come over legally
<1> we're talking illegal...thats' why they're called "undocumented"
<0> said the north east will be moving to spanish for roadsigns in a matter of time
<3> No, we're talking "allegedly illegal" :)
<0> I don't see why the US has to be geocoded anymore, just carry the US with you at core in your currency wherever you go.
<1> they're here w/o documentation
<1> that makes them illegal
<0> I need a US national debit card
<0> I want access to that...
<0> each bill could allow for happiness of probably 1 million US tax payers
<1> what they should do is p*** a bill that ok, makes the illegals here now citizens, but in order to sign up for services, they ahve to say how long they've been here and OFFICIALLY pay back backtaxes
<0> I pay income tax micromanaged, I might as well have micro access to the debt
<1> think by giving all these illegals amnesty that suddenly the cost of healthcare's gonna go down?
<0> I suppose people INSIDE the beltway decide how that money is spent, would be nice to have fine granularity and allow citizens access to run up that debt too
<3> L0c0: that would be nice... imagine 11 million Mexicans trying to p*** the MEXICAN border at night :)
<0> yes, I'm suggesting we continiue with big government spending AND allow the citizens to ride this spending wave too
<1> another thing...you know if this bill is p***ed, there's gonna be an even bigger flood of illegals coming thinking its a free p***
<1> job #1 should be to secure teh damn borders
<0> US needs to get their consumer base off the china feed bag
<1> but in an election year, politicians don't want to be bothered with that sorta issue
<0> as US imports increase, so do probabilities of those pesky terrists slippin somethin' into the bargain chicken carc***es from china
<1> and that's not even a demo/repub issue...it's a stupid spineless politician issue
<6> Dominus: That's my job.
<3> DrDetr0it: that means going to a lower standard of living, though.
<3> Since you can't produce it at the same prices.
<0> Dominus - I would be curious to see if CAFTA jumped on that opportunity
<1> china's a funny thing
<1> americans whined about google censoring its pages
<6> Dominus: So these riots in Paris aren't funny anymore
<1> yet, for american corporations, its in their best interest to keep the chinese people under a oppressive gov't
<3> Publius: well, the students aren't messing it up as badly as the foreigners were, earlier this year :)
<1> imagine if the chinese gov't said "ok foreign corporations, you have to provide healthcare and a higher minimum wage and..."
<3> They were burning down cars and buildings.
<1> **** that, they'd pull out. china can't afford that, corporations can't afford that, so the best thing is to keep the people under their thumb
<6> Dominus: but that wasn't going to tank the economy
<0> L0c0- also, Google said, sure china, you can sleep on top of us, but said, you wait outside to the feds in the US.
<6> Dominus: this could
<1> its like the companies that go to mexico
<0> companies go to mexico, mexicans come to the US
<1> they say their workers make more than the avg mexican income
<0> I see a strange circle there
<1> sure...$3/day is more than most mexicans make
<1> but still a far cry from what an American made
<7> Its no fuUUunnn
<1> granted, the manufactoring industry ****ed itself over w/ its unions
<7> being an illegal Alie Uu Un
<3> Publius: the solution is more obvious in this case, though.
<3> The foreigners' case was more abstract.
<7> El Norte !!!!
<1> then again, if that job goes back to an american, the mexican will just cross over illegally and take the job back
<6> Dominus: what do you think should do?
<0> I dunno, if you can get the car made by oompa loompa's for a dime an hour, hey, I guess that's good researching on exchange bonus there
<6> they(
<6> *
<0> if only genetics heads in the direction of oompa loompas, we might have cars made by em some day
<0> could be a plug pro genetics there
<1> hwoa
<1> Andrew Card resigned?
<1> how's this getting spun by the WH?
<0> support stem cell research, buy american oompa loompa made.
<6> L0c0: he resigned, yes
<3> Publius: I think they should alter it so people can't get fired without a reason, but it could still be made easier.
<0> I think the US might just flat out have to go to slavery to get things back on the ball
<0> maybe it could happen economically this time though
<1> "No we didn't bow to the pressure of calls for new blood. this was an expected departure" or some crap like that
<0> a super poor cl*** - TOTALLY dependent on China
<3> We're talking about 2 extremes here, the ideal situation would be in the middle.
<0> that would rock
<6> Dominus: and it will be. It is sad to watch such a kneejerk reaction
<1> shocker
<1> "There is a new season,'' Card said, making an allusion to Ecclesiastes in an appearance alongside the president and Bolten in the Oval Office this morning. "It is a different season and Josh Bolten is the right person for that season.''
<1> well color me wrong
<0> they'd have to get jobs, JUST to pay for gas to drive to the central feed, er, uh, consumer goods store, and then work there, then shop there, hmm
<1> they're actualy being truthful
<3> Publius: it's just that both the people and the government aren't willing to compromise at this point.
<0> that's loco l0c0
<6> Dominus: That always results in serious problems
<0> new seasons
<0> ouch
<1> pardom my error but truth from this administration is like the lochness monster...people talk about having seen/heard it..but nobody has proof
<1> haha
<3> Publius: and that's where they are now.
<0> I'm glad the religious coupe going on in DC isn't Islamic I guess
<0> we'd all die if we believed otherwise ? I dunno - least in afganny apparantly
<6> Dominus: I hope no terrorist decides to do something. I hope they couldn't if they wanted anyway
<0> those pesky terrists
<6> I'm not joking Doc
<7> It could be that the one extreme of keeping the new law intact is what is really needed by french business to compete on a global stage with companies that operate like that already
<3> Publius: this doesn't seem to be something that'd attract terrorists to me.
<0> I don't give credit or dignity of being to a small group of nutcases
<7> there really may not be much room for comprimise by the govt
<3> rond: well, here in Europe, the economy isn't necessarily the number one concern.
<6> Dominus: Not particularly. But big groups with innocent civilians attract murderers like that
<7> I know that
<3> What's a good economy going to do if not everyone can enjoy it?
<7> that is clearly your choice but....
<0> somehow terrist gets a lower intellectual rating that US redneck it seems
<0> I'm not sure if this is appropriate
<3> And I'm not even talking about welfare, this is about people suddenly losing their jobs for no reason.
<7> there is a business world out there that provides these jobs and imposes certain hard core realities
<3> ... and there's people making those businesses possible.
<6> Dominus: it isn't like you can just fire someone for looking bad one day
<7> We do fine over here with basically the same type of the new law
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