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<0> Remember i am a Real Estate Broker ;)
<1> so the previous residents could return
<2> hehe
<3> why is that idea of expelling 12 million illegals even thought?
<3> It's NEVER going to happen.
<0> I talked to the northern California head of mortgages for Bank Of America Panini.
<3> It's IMPOSSIBLE.
<1> i havent seen anyone say anything about expelling 12 million illegals
<0> He says they see it going on for a while yet.
<2> yup
<2> that's what I think too
<4> Just have periodic 'citizenship testing booths' on all the freeways.
<5> Yankee: Frist got beat up by Pedro back in highschool
<6> freemrkts i love morgage companies tellen me they can get me a lower interest rate, so i let them go through their speech and tell them well i own my own home is that low eneogh
<2> I've been folowing housing for a while now
<3> I have a better shot of scoring with JanetB
<0> But your right i was looking at Berkeley inventories the other day, 2 or 3 days ago and there were less than 60 homes and condos get snuck in their where its supposed to beonly detached homes, but about 55 then homes for sale for under 1 million dollars
<5> so now Frist is upset and wans to kick all mexicans out
<2> bmc I did the math...
<1> making it a felony to be here illegally, doesnt equate to expelling them
<0> Panini, And they are ALL In Bad areas.
<0> Bad compared to others
<0> though Bad Areas are dissapearing in Berkeley
<3> Pedro is not even Mexican
<3> he's from the DR
<0> Gentrification has driven out most the crack heads
<5> bmc: I'm not paying these ***hole congressmen to make some BS law and not do anything
<5> I'm tired of it
<6> hey pepino yes mr mcoy
<4> Berkeley is Gentrifying. (I'm in Berkeley)
<1> Publius its what they do best
<3> bbl
<3> I am hot
<0> ke6i, Has gentrified
<5> I'm tired of it
<0> I lived in west berkeley and bought my first home for $90k
<4> I'm near University and Sacramento. Across from Andronicos.
<0> Now if I went down their today and tried to buy it it would cost me $750k maybe more.
<1> maybe increasing the severity of the crime will influence the authorities to be more active on enforcement or something
<1> i dunno what their logic is
<1> probably all for show
<6> freemrts if i lived in berkley i would be in alot of fist fights
<0> ke6i, We are within a 1.2 mile radious of each other.
<0> I dont want to give away my exact location ;)
<4> yeah there are a lot of old baby boomers, living off of workman's comp scam and stuck in rent controlled apartments in Berkeley.
<2> how about Berkeley Hills?
<0> Panini, Berkeley hills are almost all over a million
<4> Berkeley HIlls have a spectacular view though.
<0> Though people who live there risk their lives every day.
<2> earthquakes?
<2> or mudslides?
<0> I was on a very safe property at the low end of the hills the other day with a BEAUTIFUL view
<4> definately mudslide up there.
<0> I told them if they fixed the structural problems in their 2 bedroom house they could sell it for 950
<0> Yeah Fires, Mudslides, And God forbid a major wuake on the Hayward.
<0> Panini, YOu seen how much some of those houses are stilted out over cliffs ?
<0> Man...
<4> Flats are more dangerous for quakes though -- due to liquifaction.
<2> yeah... major cantilever jobs
<0> These people just dont think that it can happen to them..
<0> And it may not.
<0> Well I got to run.. almost late. Cya guys.
<2> ke6i, depends on soil
<2> liquefaction only happens in very specific places
<4> yeah there are maps. It has been raining so much lately, I think liquifaction would be bad if quake happened now.
<2> like the MArina
<4> yeah that Marina fell over, and it was way far away form the epicenter, that 1989 quake.
<4> The Marina district in San Francisco is old landfill I think?
<7> I think i'll make some minced shrimp balls
<8> ya know when you go back and look at books talking about the future in the year 2000....you see flying cars, cures for all disease, all kinds of neat impossible gadgets, or mind control, or other amazing things.....but what do we really have come 2000?....the internet
<8> damn
<8> wish the books were right
<8> ;p
<4> the future ****s.
<4> We got the 'Clockwork Orange' future. Not the '2001 a Space Oddysey' future.
<8> lol
<8> 1984 always gives me a laugh. people always like to make conparisons to it and make retarded big brother comments...and I just say "are you high? the title of that book shows that he was wrong! 1984! you wwere born after that!@3!@5'
<8> ;p
<4> These days all we can look forwards to in the future is war, debt and more stupid laws.
<9> I think we got the "Futurama" future, personally.
<8> i personally couldn't finish 1984
<10> war is great for the economy
<8> once he got that book he was looking for
<8> it just got so boring
<4> War is temporarily good for the economy -- but recession follows.
<8> then again i was like 12 last time i read it, i just wanted to see if he banged that chick
<11> ethnic cleansing bill?
<11> am I missing something?
<10> re-read it, suna. it's worth it
<10> and yes, he bangs that chick
<12> What "ethnic cleansing" bill?
<8> yes, and then gets tortured for it:)
<9> Frist has introduced a bill that strips off the guest worker amendments that the Senate Judiciary Committee added to the House bill, and simply makes it a felony to be one of the 12 million illegals living in America--or to help them.
<2> ke6i, i'd rather have a star trek future
<9> In other words, a bill designed to force 12 million people out of their homes.
<7> I need a good food channel
<7> to dicuss my shrimp ball plans
<13> awesome!
<10> what's the difference if the criminal immigrants are felons. it's notl ike they vote or anything anyway
<4> Actually I think we're in the 'Biff's Casino' future in the Back to the Future movie.
<12> Pickle - What the heck does ILLEGAL mean to you?
<9> BoogyMan: Nothing whatsoever to the question of whether forcing 12 million people out of their homes is ethnic cleansing or not.
<7> don't read 984
<7> 1984
<14> BoogyMan, illeagle = sick bird ;-)
<9> The fact that they're illegal doesn't change what it is, one iota.
<7> read player piano
<7> vonnegut > orwell
<15> taxcut: sure they do... they vote democrat
<16> Tancredo may not be a household name yet, but he's doing everything he can to change that. As the House and Senate debate the nation's immigration and border-security laws, the four-term Coloradan has positioned himself as the loudest, angriest voice against the estimated 11 million illegal aliens now living in the United States.
<16> They are "a scourge that threatens the very future of our nation," he says. He laments "the cult of multiculturalism," and worries about America's becoming a "Tower of Babel." If Republican presidential candidates don't put the problem atop the agenda in 2008, he says he'll run himself, just to force the front runners to talk about it.
<12> Pickle - I have to disagree
<10> no, LEGAL immigrants vote democrat. ILLEGAL ones don't get to, unless they've VOTING illegally too!
<10> which is ANOTHER felony
<7> <3 voter fraud
<17> well..almost there...
<2> libertine, her the song "1984" by david bowie?
<15> let them apply for citizenship
<15> they already broke the law
<15> what is to say they won't break it again?
<12> Pickle - To call it ethnic cleansing belittles what that horrible term actually means
<2> hear
<16> Tancredo's anti-immigration campaign is also brazenly, almost gleefully, taking aim at George W. Bush and Karl Rove. The president had once hoped the immigration debate would center on his proposed guest-worker program, which would allow illegalswho fill millions of unskilled, low-wage jobsto stay in the country for a set period of time.
<17> have not figured out how the CPU cooling fan attaches....
<2> bowie > orwell
<16> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12017855/site/newsweek/
<10> rob: if they come back a second time, we cut off a foot THEN send them back
<7> bowie > orwell
<15> taxcut: which they do
<7> true
<18> They should move out of their homes...they are not legally in their homes anyway. If Canada wants to open their doors to the 12 mill that is fine with me
<9> Forcing 12 million people out of their homes is forcing 12 million people out of their homes, regardless of the excuse you use for doing so. It's a gross violation of human rights, human decency, and individual liberty. It's an act that we put people on trial at The Hague for committing. It's wrong.
<4> But we'd get their stuff.
<10> let's see 'em climb a 40' wall with one foot missing
<18> too bad they should have come here legally
<15> taxcut: you know full well illegals all vote democrat
<12> Pickle - I can see that a reasoned debate on this is not possible at this time, I can wait
<15> taxcut: which is why democrats were whining about bush stealing the 2000 election
<10> and all white-collar thieves vote republican. you're stereotyping horribly
<2> Pickle, lol... it's not their home if they are here illegally
<15> Pickle: they broke the law
<15> the question is.... how can you make the current 12 million into felons?
<7> you don't have to be a RESIDENT of the us
<7> to own property
<7> you can own a house in the us if you LIVE IN mexico
<15> they came here when it was not a felon...
<2> their home is in chihuahua, mexico (or canada)
<9> panini: If they're living here, they're living here, regardless of whether they're doing so legally. Make no mistake--it IS forcing people out of their homes.
<7> so to argue that someone who legally owns a house in the us but resides in it illegally does not own the house
<7> is nonsense
<18> So
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