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<0> If we were to lose Dubai we lose our most forward strategic base in the Middle East.
<1> jhicks: I know...but the French have become conservative...I can back it up
<2> DarthBurg, Except they pick and choose the enemies
<2> DarthBurg, UAE IS AN ENEMY, BUT IRAN IS NOT
<2> etc
<3> Publius: hahahahahhahaha
<1> jhicks
<4> Herzen it is amazing is it not?
<1> PM
<3> k
<3> Ok, I'm joking about the French
<3> I even LIKE Brie cheese.
<4> obviously donkeys have no fear of their constituents requiring consistency
<4> look at how the RNC abandoned Cunningham.
<0> The French may be conservative by european xenophobic standards but not by american standards. Of course we call it sometimes market conservatism and sometimes market liberalism, but they call capitalist world markets liberalism in economics.. And they are not liberal in economic freedom.
<2> The Conservative party will probably win in Sweden
<2> in their next election
<2> pro-military party
<5> I've been listening to BBC radio lately, and thier Labor and "Conservative" Parties are very strange
<4> the Swedes make a fine anti tank gun
<0> Well American incestors must not have much interest in running our own ports, since most of them apparently are ran by foreign concerns, but the ceo of Dubai Ports is an American.
<3> KoBushi: that stuff'll rot your mind
<5> thier Conservative Party doesn't sound very conservative at all
<0> And has been
<5> and thier Labor party sounds more akin to the Republican party here than to the Dems
<0> Hes not a new face to p*** the deal apparently hes been the CEO for a long time.
<2> DarthBurg, THey make fine lots of things
<3> convervative vs liberal is a big crock of sh*t
<4> whats funny is
<5> And now, both of them are making a concentrated effort to move thier parties towards moderatism
<2> DarthBurg, Per Capita, Sweden is the 4th largest exporter of arms
<2> DarthBurg, Ahead of USA
<0> The swedes best product is their engines.
<0> Herzen you me per capita right ?
<3> FreeTrade: I bet you drive a volvo
<2> Yes
<2> Per capita
<4> the media paints Bush as turning over the security of the ports, when you read the fine print, you find out UEA BOUGHT the company currently running the ports. No Wonder Dubya did not know about it
<0> Ok.
<5> Herzen who is #1?
<2> The Swedes best product is probably their small arms
<0> jhicks, I did once until It died.
<0> It was a strong car.
<3> I KNEW IT
<2> KoBushi, #1 Israel, #2 Russia, #3 France, #4 Sweden
<3> Folks
<4> Israeli arms
<3> FreeTrade is a commie posing as a free market advocate!
<3> BEWARE!
<4> the IDF Defender.
<2> DarthBurg, israeli arms are just western arms with ISraeli stamps on them
<2> much of the time =)
<0> Jhicks, you could say FT you owned a _____insert car name here and I probably would say yes, I am almost 48
<5> heh, no wonder France works against the UN's mission :P
<4> Herzen like Magnum Research
<2> KoBushi, Arms export is good
<0> I have owned a lincoln continental, a Datsun small pickup which was a pos, Rambler
<3> FreeTrade: please don't tell me you once drove a Pacer
<0> 55 GMC
<2> I wish Canada did more arms development, production and export
<0> Pontiac Lemans
<2> We're #8 per capita, right behind USA
<0> I cant even think of them all.
<4> US is closing arms plants
<5> Herzen domestic arms production is good... selling weapons to other nations is just foolish imo.
<2> KoBushi, Its very profitable, especially if the nations are fairly remote or responsible
<0> A lot of our arms are still only available for US troops.
<3> Herzen: yeah, why not export arms? that way we can provide the survivors of civil wars welfare afterwards
<3> Exporting arms is dumb.
<0> And then there is a tier available to close allies like the UK
<2> People is gonna kill each other anyways
<2> I'd rather have them do it with rifles then machettes
<0> and then their is a tier to our other allies like Saudi Arabia who we sell F 16s to.
<3> Herzen: no need for taxpayers to help them
<2> jhicks, I agree
<5> Why? So you can be partially in on the killing? :)
<2> jhicks, needs to be private
<3> Herzen: but that's what happens
<3> "military grants"
<0> And we sell patriot systems to Israel, or we might even operate them for free for them, I dont know the arraingement.
<3> it's just plain stupid
<6> Saudi has AWACS system, it protects our own interests
<0> but if any country needs missile defense its Israel.
<5> People are going to kill each other anyway, true... but why help them?
<3> FreeTrade: loans that are always converted to grants
<0> But I still say they dont need nukes.
<2> KoBushi, because it puts the green in u pocket
<3> Israel has never repaid a loan to the US.
<5> People kill themselves with cigarettes, but I wouldn't sell cigs
<3> never will.
<0> Jhicksm, not with saudi sells.
<7> just two more years.
<5> Nor will even get cigs for people.
<1> Nicolas Sarkozy
<3> All loans get converted to grants.
<0> We made a deal under FDR, You supply us with a consistant supply of oil and we will supply and build your military and develop your oil.
<0> Which we did.
<2> and a properly armed and conducted campaign is much less bloody
<2> generally
<5> Herzen *shrug* not being partially responsible for the slaughter of others is worth more than cash in my pocket
<3> And it's really corporate welfare for the arms manufacturers
<6> jhicks, how do I get some such loan?
<0> Saudi Arabia Guranteed us oil through world war 2
<3> Ike warned us.
<6> jhicks, how do I get one such loan?
<5> herpes of course, as a tax payer, I really have no choice.
<3> salx: kickbacks to congressmen
<5> Herzen of course, as a tax payer, I really have no choice.
<4> one of our exported arms could stop a rape.
<1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Sarkozy
<2> i'm not herpes
<2> plz
<3> My favorite line from a cheech & chong movie
<0> Anyway, Hollywood says we are the biggest arms dealer, and in a movie which was a propaganda film against the M/I complex the idiots had 100s of AK 47s laying around..
<3> "i have harpes on my haid"
<0> Someone should tell them that the Chinese and russians build AK 47s
<4> actually, arms manufactures here in the US would be private outfits
<6> Sarkozy is a noted bigot
<2> hmmm
<3> FreeTrade: US has bought AK47's
<2> France has a fasces in their coat of arms
<2> nice
<0> Jhicks, NO You dont listen well do you
<2> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/France_coa.png
<3> FreeTrade: indirectly, with military grants
<1> Herzen: Did you go to the article on Sarkozy?
<2> Yeah
<0> Did you get in trouble at school a lot ? I said SALES
<0> not purchase
<2> and I noticed that France has a fasces in their coat of arms
<3> FreeTrade: o i c
<3> FreeTrade: we participated!
<1> Herzen: Good...read on!
<4> the ak47 is an excellent design.
<3> yeah
<5> DarthBurg no, it isn't all about feelings. But some things are, don't you have moral principals by which you stnad?
<0> Jhicks, We sell most of our military supplies for CASH and or Quid Pro Quos
<3> sturdy
<5> stand*
<0> Saudis paid cash
<6> my coworker bought AK from ebay
<4> cheap to make, simple to use and maintain, and it works
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