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<0> I think
<1> --A company in the United Arab Emirates is poised to take over significant operations at six American ports as part of a corporate sale, leaving a country with ties to the Sept. 11 hijackers with influence over a maritime industry considered vulnerable to terrorism.
<2> CNN is really hounding the ports thong
<3> FT: What'd happen if the US went to war with China
<0> hahaha
<0> HELL
<4> I wish I was hounding a thong
<2> lol
<0> Johan: That is a big question with no certain answer
<5> Oil wasnt sold to china because of fears that China whose need of oil is increasing rapidly might somehow cut us off.. Though that deal should of gone through too, the world oil market is just that a market, and the sellers need to sell as bad as the buyers need to buy.
<4> wait I am married I can
<6> AAAman, that's a wonderful paste, what liberal press did you get it from?
<1> DowJones business wire is also concerned. Let us not harp on CNN. They are far from alone
<7> I love how they spin that.. like a country is responsible for the acts of its citizens
<7> hahahah
<1> DowJones -- The ultimate liberal media



<2> AAAman: true
<5> Iran doesnt sell oil people dont get services, people dont get services people get angry, People get angry people demonstrate or revolt, sometimes they overthrow governments in unstable regions.
<7> does that mean that the goverment was responsible for McVey?
<5> Ack Got to run to the next town over again bbiab ;)
<2> actually, it seems no foreign countries ought to be able to operate our ports
<1> http://www.lloyds.com/dj/DowJonesArticle.aspx?id=78370
<6> DosGuru, who do you suggest do it then?
<7> no US company wants to run our ports, it is to expensive
<8> there should be a narnia-type skit where Kevin Gernett throws the ball in the face of ugly ppl
<1> DowJones -- U.S. Treasury Department officials complained about a lack of cooperation by the UAE and other Arab countries trying to track Osama bin Laden's bank accounts.
<8> or like the chuck norris skit
<2> i would like to see american owned companies with amrerican executives operating our ports
<4> I would say it differently US companies are busy doing more profitable things
<4> it seems the running of ports are not the right type of biz for US companies
<6> AAAman, specifically, what was the complaint from Treasury?
<3> Pub: The UAE has DEMANDED that CNN "shut up Lou Dobbs" (Lou's show was the first to report the arab ports deal)
<7> rond.. the union has made it to expensive to run our ports
<1> I posted a quote from DowJones
<4> janetb probably so
<4> I would guess that is a part of the problem
<1> I posted the URL
<6> So you don't know
<2> that trying to shut up lou dobbs is choice
<7> where was this out cry about china?
<4> different admin
<6> DosGuru, there are over 300 ports, do you think American companies can handle it?
<2> i wish more people were concerned about the patriot act cloture vote scheduled for tomorrow
<7> it is a goverment run company
<7> but you heard nothing about it
<6> DosGuru, will American companies do it at the same low bid price?
<1> Dubai is buying the U.K. firm that operates 29 port facilities around the world, including those in New York-Newark, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Miami and New Orleans.
<5> Back, I am habitually early for appointments and things like that so if I go now I will wait their 10 minutes twiddling my thumb.
<6> DosGuru, and what American companies will do this? Who is specialized enough?
<5> So I shall leave in about 6 minutes or so.
<5> Why did not American Company even big on it ?
<5> not = no
<5> big = bid
<5> Ill find those keys yet
<2> TheTailor are you in favor foreign companies and governments running our pors?
<7> cause there is no money to be made
<1> In London, a U.S. business partner of P&O filed a petition on Feb. 24 to block the purchase.
<5> They arent exactly running the ports so could you re-phrase.
<5> Providing Capital Management ?
<1> The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which owns the third busiest container port in the U.S., sued Feb. 24 to block DP World from ***uming control of the facility. The suit says the company failed to get consent of the Port Authority.
<5> Well they are rich, and not too many of us are.
<7> why didn't they file a petition on october?
<5> AAAman couldnt afford it.
<7> in
<1> What is a few billion
<2> the patriot act goes too far
<5> Objection your honor, The wouldn't be running out ports.. Juge: Objection sustained Please ask another question or finish with this witness.
<5> judge
<6> DosGuru, I am if they are trusted allies, and if there isn't an American company that will do it at a fair proce.
<6> price even
<5> Need talcum powder on my hands.
<5> and keys
<2> TheTailor: hmmmm
<6> DosGuru, but you didn't answer my question
<6> DosGuru, and what American companies will do this? Who is specialized enough?
<5> The question is what are the laws governing these transactions ?
<5> Well the answer is the process they just went through and were approved by.



<5> Who made the rules, That damn president ?
<2> well, has it been established that no american companies want to run out ports?
<5> Nope, Congress made the rules.
<5> What ?
<5> YOu mean Bush followed the Congressional rules ?
<5> Yep
<5> No way!
<5> Yep
<5> Your kidding!
<5> Nope!
<5> Seriously ?
<5> Yep
<6> haha
<5> Is that a fac ?
<5> It is a fact.
<9> lol
<6> DosGuru, obviously because no American company got the bid when the contract was let, yeah, there aren't a lot out there that do this.
<5> Well its sort of a fact, Bush has nothing to do with it until after it was already approved by ever security branch of our government and commerce and treasury depts as part of a routine practice of this type of sale which happend 50 -200 times a year.
<6> DosGuru, so what is your solution if you don't want Dubai doing it?
<5> Happens 50-200 times a year
<5> this process goes on.
<5> THis is the second objection in as many years as Bush has been in office.
<5> Even though Security is much tighter than every in history
<5> every = ever
<2> well, the thing here seems to be that DP is buying another company that is selling the port opertaions. that is not the same thing as opening it for some sort of bidding
<1> he American ***ociation of Port Authorities offers the designation of Professional Port Manager
<5> damn it I need instant type fixer.
<1> The program should ***ist public port authorities, marine related organizations and agencies in hiring or promoting qualified seaport managers and professionals."
<5> We have some disinformation monkeys on here, Or did I mean Junkies ?
<5> We will never know what I meant.
<5> Ok Got to run.. Later
<7> oh I ate TO much pizza!!!!
<2> this is interesting -- "Patriot Act Bad for Internet Users -- Kill it!" it's on mozillaquest.com
<2> from what they were saying on the news tonight, it seems that renewing the patriot act is pretty much a done deal
<10> good
<11> kinda quiet in here ...
<0> Helloo there
<11> Publius manilius!
<11> what's doing?
<0> Bloviating with Bill and getting some work done
<11> Publius manilius and Biggus ****us went down to the Forum for some debate ...
<0> hahaha
<0> Biggus ****us - O'reilly?
<11> character in a movie spoof about ancient rome ...
<0> Ah
<0> Well
<11> "A Funny Thing happened?"
<0> Hannity...next is more of a ****
<11> don't know them
<12> Biggus ****us was from The Life of Brian, Monty Python
<12> as was Buttocks Incotens
<12> or whatever his wife's name was :P
<0> haha
<13> give me some positives if iraq becomes america's 51st state?
<0> wtf
<13> cheaper oil
<14> why would we get cheaper oil ?
<14> just becausethey become a state ?
<13> because they're under US contol
<14> they're under US control right now
<0> oh shutup
<0> I'm tired
<14> its more expensive than ever
<13> yea well give me some positives then
<14> there are none
<7> we do not buy oil from iraq
<14> zero
<15> heh
<0> JanetB: You got this?


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