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<0> or Collerige and his Kubli Khan fragment
<1> I'm officially old: I've had to cut my caffeine back because it makes me feel ****ty
<0> or the Roseetties
<2> bmc: and you lived?
<0> Chritina(?) and Dante Gabriel iirc
<3> ive never done any **** you snort or inject
<3> or pills, none of those either
<0> William Blake
<0> now THAT was a crowd of druggie loons!
<4> Meh... they still haven't recovered the data on 25 MILLION vets... birthdates, SS#s, etc... that got stolen about a month ago... identity thieves, start your search engines!
<0> Swinburne wrote a novel called Lesbia Brnadon
<4> God dammit
<3> i dont see how people can shoot **** in their veins they dont even know what it is
<2> I smelled gunpowder one day - was never the same. Now I have a 30 round a day habit :)
<4> Now the VA chief says it included disability codes and such on 3 million of 'em.
<3> they should mix arsenic in street heroin, thatll solve that problem
<1> eh. the cat's out of the bag now. those vet's personal info hase opened umpteen credit card accounts and logged onto a zillion pr0n sites by now. :)
<4> ugh
<1> there's no recovering it
<4> It's every vet discharged since 1975 and any others that have VA claims too.
<4> Roughly 25 million vets.
<4> How much you want to bet that it had all sorts of other data too... it was afterall stolen from a data-analyst... I doubt he was doing data analysis on just birthdates and SS#s
<4> Probably has our home addresses, telephone numbers, details of medical crap.
<1> does UPS deliver on Saturdays?
<5> Katey for $5
<6> Popopopopopo
<7> redfish: do you watch The Soup?
<8> wow just saw a blip on Fox News that the speed limit on 2 texas roads increases to 80 MPH
<8> that means 85 !!!
<5> rond I learned very quickly you do not speed in texas. specially with out of state plates
<8> I hope its 287 towards colorado Bud
<5> got stopped once for going 3 over the limit
<8> I Nope not 287 :(
<8> I 20 that goes west from Fort Worth
<5> i dont remember
<8> through Abiline
<8> thats on of theme
<5> but then another time, lol, my gf was doing 120mph
<5> i was asleep in the p***enger seat
<8> Ohhh thats a big ticket
<5> well
<5> luckily the cop could only get her for 100mph
<9> not if a chick does it
<9> she can use the crying method to get out of it
<8> isn't there some # above speed limit thats a series crime ?
<5> but man, i was pissed at her, you just dont do that in TX
<10> Anybody talking about anything here?
<5> rond i think some places it's a felony to be doing XX over the limit
<8> thats what I was thinking felony
<5> this texas trooper, clocked her at ~120, but lost it somehow, so had to clock her again by tailing her, put it down as 100 in a 65
<5> got her a $300 ticket
<5> and got me a $10 no seatbelt ticket
<5> lol
<11> dude no seat belts here are like $95
<11> wtf
<12> Question Mark.
<5> been stopped every time ive been in TX
<5> once for 3 over, another for 10 over
<5> i think they pretty much wanna talk to anyone from out of state
<12> rond, its up to the state, in most cases as the speed limit either exceeds the posted limit by x amound or it exceeds a speed Y period. It becomes carely or wreckless driving which is closer to a DUI or misdemeanor.
<12> But its up to the individual states and cities.
<12> Seat belts ? here its a moderate fine if you are an adult, if its an infant pull out your credit card its over $300.00
<11> speeding is spendy, if it's 100mph+ it's $1100 here
<11> and no license for like 90 days
<12> So when we rarely have 6 in our 5 seatbelt cars all kids under 18 get seated in first and my wife usually squeezes in without a seat belt.
<12> Jesus $1100 ?
<12> Thats even high for California.
<11> yup, it's over 100mph. speeding in general though is at least $300 usually
<12> Though 100 mph I dont know what the fine is.
<5> cops in CO are pretty libertarian about traffic laws. hell they speed alongside everyone else
<12> What state are you in ?
<11> running a red light is almost $200
<11> if not more
<11> Oregon
<11> you don't want to break traffic laws here. way to expensive.
<12> Red light here is $343.00 I think
<11> yeah that sounds about right
<12> Last I drove to Oregon on the Oregon side I averaged 95
<11> hah
<12> meaning I was going being 70-110 most the way
<11> i tend to do 85.. speed limit is 65 in most placs
<11> 55 in others.
<12> I will be much more careful next time.
<13> How far is it from Wash. DC to Newport News?
<12> I dont intend to speed per se, its like a ****ing magnet, some speeds feel comfortable..
<12> If I feel I have very good control of the car, and if I feel very comfortable I forget what speed I am going until I look down.
<12> then often I will try to pull way back.
<11> i've yet to be pulled over driving from medford, OR to fresno, ca yet
<11> i'm suprised.
<11> but even CHP drives 90+
<11> so i suppose it's ok
<12> I would set it gladly at 70 and put it on speed control and go all the way. but the problem is slow drivers force me off cruise control all the time and make it useless.
<5> i use cruise control a lot when in states where i dont know how stupid the police are with speeders
<12> becaue I cant use speed control I go by instinct, I dont intend to drive 100 and in fact I am quite shocked when I look down and see 100 or more.
<11> you don't have resume?
<12> If I looked at the spedometer every 2 minutes that would be different.
<12> But I dont.
<11> i have no cruise control but when i did, i drive whatever.. i could break and then hit resume and it'd reset the cruise automatically
<14> we'd be happy if you just looked at the road at least every 2 minutes ;-)
<12> Maybe I need a governor that wont let me go faster than 95
<11> made that problem non-existant
<12> ;)
<12> You all know what a governor is dont you ? Besides the political meaning ?
<12> :)
<11> yes
<12> hehe
<11> cadillac's have 'em!
<12> hehehe
<5> steveO_ yup. my cruise control on the steering wheel lever has everything you need, dont even need to use your feet
<12> So did Jennifer Flowers ;)
<11> haha
<5> set, accel, off, resume
<5> can drive across a state with my feet hangin out the window lol
<11> well if someone wants to debate... can't imagine why but, it just amazes me someone has a laptop with 25 million records on it and now it's gone. how it even left the building or wasn't tracked to begin with amazes me..
<15> we have pretrial diversions here (for speeding tickets)...pay $$ and no points are issued against you.
<11> puella: most oregon cities have that too, it's nice.
<15> yup
<5> puella works good that way, keeps the system unclogged, however you only get that opportunity the first couple of times
<15> gotta keep your nose clean for 2 years before u can use it again here
<5> too many ppl waive their rights to trial imo
<11> wow, only 6 months here
<15> wow
<3> easier to just pay the small fine, rather than pay court costs, lose a day of work, and whatever else it might cost you
<11> well i usually waive my right if it can be diverted only because 9.5 times out of 10 the courts here always side with the officer
<11> i rarely ever see someone get off
<5> bmc yah, but in other cases, more serious ones.
<11> even with proof, they just lower the fine and you still pay. they never dismiss them.
<5> isnt it something like 95% of cases never reach trial
<11> well criminal cases i think. maybe civil. not traffic violations
<11> er, yeah
<11> that'd be right
<5> lot of people who would never be convicted in a courtroom take a plea deal just to get it over with, and get stuck with a record and other consequences they didnt consider
<5> way too many people put through the justice system in america
<5> would grind to a halt if everyone was given a fair hearing
<11> yes very true
<16> 'AT&T's attorneys this week filed a 25-page legal brief striped with thick black lines that were intended to obscure portions of three pages and render them unreadable. But the obscured text nevertheless can be copied and pasted inside some PDF readers, including Preview under Apple's OS X and the xpdf utility used with X11. The deleted portions of the legal brief seek to offer benign reasons why AT&T would allegedly have a secret room at its
<11> sad too because a lot also do that to avoid public embar***ment
<11> or work place issues
<5> steveO_ and lawyers dont help either
<11> i mean if you're guilty and keep the same job for 10 years, you'll probably be just fine. when i got in some trouble the only problems i had were finding another job when i wanted one.
<11> infact, my record should be expunged in the next 2 months or so
<5> if they can collect $2k from you to turn around and cut a deal for you, why the hell would they wanna actually work and defend you properly?
<11> i'll NEVER break the law again.. not criminally anyway.
<11> of course, because if they do defend you, that's $24k now.
<11> and no gaurantee you'll win
<11> so anyone doing math would likely take the plea deal, even though it's not always the best. money wise, it probably is the wisest option.
<17> what about the mexican food
<11> hell, guilty or innocent, you gotta pay to defend.
<17> some beef burritos
<17> with mad salsa
<17> burritos
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