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<0> i dunno, there should be a way for a whistleblower to get information out, but they shouldnt be allowed to remain in secrecy forever
<1> Timur: okay
<1> bud: true ... that's sort of what I was saying
<1> the stakes are high
<1> I have to be willing to risk my reputation if I'm an insider with what I think is evidence of wrong-doing
<2> sure, there needs to be a blanace.
<1> Timur: the problem is the balance is so far off (IMO) that some extremes are in order at this point in history
<0> anyone who looks into the matter knows the pentagon is stocked full of people with agendas and ill intent. Hell, there was an incident where some clinton folks left over there were using Cohens autopen without his acknowledge to appoint people to positions inside to actively undermine the new administration
<0> people like that, can just pick and choose information to leak all day long
<1> secret information is by definition dangerous ... the more secrets government keeps, the more dangerous the situation is
<1> anyone who denies that government is potentially a very dangerous tool to the people who create and hope to benefit from it is likewise a loon
<1> and government agents are also not above the law
<1> if the whistle blower lose his job, but was correct to blow the whistle, and no culprits are punished, then what's the incentive to be a whistle blower?
<3> ocdoc hey
<1> hey Sting
<0> OcDoc sadly, book deals
<1> no longer baching it?
<1> bud: not a great incentive but a good one I guess
<3> monica was a whistle blower and she made a fortnuune
<1> she blew his whistle alright
<0> book deals, political office, speaker
<3> ocdoc nah she is back but i leave2nd week of june
<1> Sting: ah
<3> dam keyboard spilled coffee on it
<3> cleaned it still sticky
<1> your keyboard spilled coffee on itself?
<3> ya
<1> heh
<3> ibm sending tech out with new one wednesday
<3> dam hollidays
<1> the problem in a nutshell is that the public has to have enough information about how government operates that it makes good political choices, but not so much that the legitimate operation of government is impaired
<3> cant figuure out how coffee didnt hit the motherboard though
<1> momma board don't 'low no coffee drinkin' here
<3> ocdoc i took keyboard out cleaned it but stll keys stick any ideas
<1> no, I'm the last one to aks .. I spill stuff on my KB a bunch
<3> ya realy a laptop
<1> even worse
<3> what have ya spilled
<1> you name it ... I'm messy
<3> lol
<0> i go through a few keyboards a year
<3> ocdoc btw gonna be doing the bone marrow end of june
<3> lol
<3> bud that ****s
<1> Sting: did you get more details about what's involved ... my info isn't very up to date
<1> I haven't seen one since med school
<0> `STINGRAY not really, much easier to just buy a few used ones for $1 than worry about keeping them all pretty
<3> i just put windex on it took hair dryer seams to work better but still gettina new one
<3> bud ya this is ibm laptop though
<2> Sting: morning
<0> i wouldnt be good with a laptop. i abuse stuff far too much
<3> timur morning
<3> bud hehehe
<3> brb
<2> bud: same.. I like to eat while ircing, for example :)
<1> still have my original keyboard, but there are a few sticky keys
<1> but if I don't give my wife something to complain about, she'll dig until she finds something
<0> If I had a nice laptop, I'd use a docking station for it at all times while at home
<0> so im not actually using it physically
<2> Oc: wow, just like my (very picky and seemingly hypercritical) gf. :)
<2> maybe they're related
<1> Timur: well, maybe it's cause she's polish?
<1> Timur: they ARE related ... they're both women
<2> could be.. then again, some of the others don't seem as much
<1> Timur: that's because they're not your girlfriends yet
<2> lol
<2> could be.. I only encounter them as a kinda friend
<1> much as I love and need women, anyone who doesn't realize that women are a totally different species from men is a total loon
<2> agree
<0> NYT is reporting Gonzales and several others threatened to resign if Bush returned the docs to congress
<2> wiring's totally different :)
<1> that's the probable reason for most marital problems ... men think women are or should be the same as men
<1> bud: what docs?
<0> the ones taken in the raid
<2> Oc: well, some women are better adapted to men; my other gf grew up with 2 brothers (and used to be a kinda tomboy and still does stuff like chop wood, fix her car engine etc) :D
<1> on Jefferson?
<4> you're most right OcDoc
<0> Bush did the right thing by sealing them for a cooling off period
<4> men should stop listening to feminists
<2> even though she's extremely feminine and gorgeous
<0> OcDoc: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/27/washington/27inquire.html?ei=5090&en=e1727b9ded38852d&ex=1306382400&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=print
<4> men were created with an advantage in abilities
<4> everything that come in pairs must have a superior
<0> WASHINGTON, May 26 Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales, the F.B.I. director, Robert S. Mueller III, and senior officials and career prosecutors at the Justice Department told ***ociates this week that they were prepared to quit if the White House directed them to relinquish evidence seized in a bitterly disputed search of a House member's office, government officials said Friday.
<0> Mr. Gonzales was joined in raising the possibility of resignation by the deputy attorney general, Paul J. McNulty, the officials said. Mr. Gonzales and Mr. McNulty told ***ociates that they had an obligation to protect evidence in a criminal case and would be unwilling to carry out any White House order to return the material to Congress.
<2> vgrep: some, and women have some abilities that men don't
<4> e.g. plus and minus
<3> timur you saying ocdoc is feminine hehe
<2> eh, apples and oranges.
<2> e.g. no
<4> surely Timur
<3> lol
<1> Timur: even when they do similar things to men, they do them completely differently and for totally different reasons
<1> Timur: a woman who chops wood does it to get fire wood
<2> Sting: no, I'm saying the other gf is, despite some 'manly' abilities
<4> mary
<2> Oc: right
<4> mother of jesus
<3> timur hehehe
<4> means "worthy of two men"
<2> eh, not in Christine's case
<4> in arabic
<1> vgrep: I didn't know that
<4> nowadays women are doing what men should be doing
<3> timur got hot girls
<2> vgrep: what word's Arabic?
<4> men sit at home, resting on their laurels
<1> Sarah, daughter of Jesus
<1> and Mary Magdalen
<4> the prophet muhammad said that soon there'd be more women than men, out there in society
<2> and it'd most likely be Aramaic, since Arabic as a language didn't develop until about the 5th-6th century AD
<1> men chop firewood to test out the new Chop'o'matic gadget they couldn't resist at Home Depot
<3> brb
<1> vgrep: he's right ... there always have been more women than men
<2> Oc: so does she.. she's into gimmicks and gadgets
<1> Timur: I deny it ... you're making it all up
<1> heh
<1> no such woman
<2> Oc: I've seen it. :)
<2> she's a real tomboy at heart
<0> isnt the birthrate like 1.06 female.. hmm how do you word that
<1> she only pretends to like gadgets because she knows it intrigues you
<2> the ratio of female:male births
<2> nah, she is extremely independent and doesn't care to impress
<1> bud: male is more likely at birth, but men die younger than women
<1> Timur: she sure has YOU fooled!
<2> I gotta go!
<2> bbl
<2> happy holiday weekend all
<1> later Timur
<1> thanks ... you too
<5> thanks bai!
<1> buh bye
<0> 1.05 males born to 1.0 femals
<0> male: 7.09 deaths/1,000 live births
<0> female: 5.74 deaths/1,000 live births (2006 est.)
<1> bud: yup .. and average life span of males 72 .... females 76
<0> interesting
<0> male: 75.02 years
<0> female: 80.82 years (2006 est.)
<0> new figures
<1> so males are higher until about age six or something, then it tips the other way
<1> women used to die in childbirth so it was more even
<0> yeah
<1> bud: it's changing so fast that they aren't very accurate any more
<0> I believe it.
<0> medicine is better, but then diet is not
<1> actually, overall diet IS better
<0> and activity etc..
<0> really?
<1> obesity doesn't have nearly as much impact as all that
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