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<0> Timur v. FreeTrade, round 13. BEGIN
<1> It might be a weird question but why not?
<1> What is the debate over publius?
<2> Fr33Trade -- busy ...
<3> yea you cant follow a budget
<3> thats lunacy
<3> insanity i tell you
<4> bmc, they dont need an amendment they need to be voted out of office unless extrarodinary circumstances arise like 911 and the results of 9111 which are Afghanistan and Iraw deposing of two repressive and evil regimes in the world which leaves only 2 more majorly repressive tyrannical regimes in the world one of which is isolated, North Korean and Iran.
<5> sintient: because the bills must be paid
<1> But they decide what those bills are.
<4> You take out Iran by internal revolution or by outside force and you eliminate all the worst most evil dictatorships in the world.
<1> So they can alot less money to be appropriated.
<5> sintient: only some of them
<4> the rest can be dealt with on diplomatic levels.
<6> oh yeah
<4> and even with our debt we are a very wealth nation with a high standard of living.
<5> sintient: congress is quite limited in what expenses it can cut without getting voted out in m***
<1> How is that they p*** the laws.
<1> Well then you are understand they can but they don't.
<1> -are
<5> sintient: and I understand that an amendment will not alter political reality
<4> So Yes I want debt cut, I want the budget cut, but its not the huge problem we once thought it was like back in the 70s when fiscal conservatism was at its height.
<7> dear god.. this is lame... http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050530/pollitt
<5> Libertine: duh. it's in The Nation
<8> Small government and individual liberty is the basic appeal of the GOP
<5> what did you expect?
<7> "Giving the HPV vaccine to young women could be potentially harmful," Bridget Maher of the Family Research Council told the British magazine New Scientist, "because they may see it as a license to engage in premarital ***." Raise your hand if you think that what is keeping girls virgins now is the threat of getting cervical cancer when they are 60 from a disease they've probably never heard of.
<3> if there were an amendment, putting a cap on the debt
<9> FT: taking gf to Rehoboth Beach tomorrow.. u?
<3> a cap on the length of time that debt can exist
<6> yeah but mostly they babble about jesus and gays
<4> Supply side economics came around and said, well some debt isnt neccesarily bad, of course its not good but there are more important economic factors than simply debt.
<1> Oh an admendment I am not really for locking it in like that.
<3> etc,etc
<4> Macro Economics forces you to put debt in the proper perspective.
<8> Fr33Trade -- Some countries learn the hard way
<7> ... so HPV vaccine is bad.. because curing diseases is less important then preventing premartial ***???
<6> what do jesus and fags have to do with libertarian principles
<7> dear god..
<5> praxid: get out
<3> sintient dont need one for balanced budget, but for gay marriage... all systems go?
<3> heh
<10> i just saw Xmen
<4> aaaman, Well When you are the wealthiest nation in the world bar none, noone is even close to 2nd.. THen debt isnt killing you. No that doeasnt mean we shouldnt try to get fiscal discipline and try to get within the budget.
<7> panini: how anti-authoritarian was?
<7> was it?
<6> i'll take a balanced budget over some weird gay marriage ban anyday
<3> haha
<3> ya think?
<7> libertarian themed films seem to be the new thing.. im liking it.
<4> But like I would of favored a 100 year bond measure to buy out social security and go to 100% private accounts.
<6> just a matter or priority
<10> Libertine, very
<3> i dont think we should put gay marriage in the constitution
<7> panini: awesome :)
<6> its a waste of time argument
<3> if there is an issue with judicial overstepping its authority
<3> make an amendment for that
<4> The 100 year bond would be an enormous debt of maybe I dont know 500 billion ? A trillion ?
<10> Libertine, it also pushed the gay agenda (subtly)
<8> Fr33Trade -- Hopefully we can extend the boom
<4> More than a trillion ?
<9> wow, this Baghdad ER is pretty good
<6> i dont care if two dudes...4 chicks....a sentient toaster and a mainframe get hitched
<7> panini: eh, i dont have a problem with the gay agenda.
<6> its not my problem
<8> Fr33Trade -- Asia has kept interest rates low
<1> My only problem with privitisation is that the market is hard.
<3> well i dont support gay marriage
<7> the gay agenda doesn't involve me as i'm not gay.
<10> hard?
<1> For someone who watches it everyday it is hard.
<0> sintient: LOLOL
<0> hehe
<0> agreed.
<3> but i dont necessarily think we should amend the constitution just for it
<10> Libertine, it involves you
<6> its filler
<4> But in a 14 trillion dollar economy a couple trillion over 100 years with interest is not a lot to exchange a lousy social security program on a crash course with destiny vs privatization 100%
<7> panini: until gays have rights I don't have; I'm good.
<1> And then you expect someone who works 50 hours s week to be able to put the time in needed to watch stocks.
<11> Libertine, it's ok, you don't have to stay in the closet here.
<4> Bushs mistake though understandable was 2%
<12> stocks are not the only investment
<10> Libertine, gays expect certain behavior from you, so it affects you
<4> Understandable because if he got any privatization at all 2% would of been the most democrats would have considered
<4> but it should be 100%
<7> panini: tho; keep in mind; I want to abolish the legal institution of marriage.
<4> 100% 10% social security private accounts.
<13> Libertine, TheTailor is hitting on you. ;)
<7> panini: gays can expect all they like; but demanding it will get them nothing :)
<8> Law of economics are frequently repealed to justify the continuance of the latest economic boom
<4> Now its 15% Social Security Public Accounts with no money in it.
<4> The minute you put it in it goes out to some old guy
<9> FT: what do you think of this cartoon? http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2006/05/22/tomo/teaser.jpg
<10> Libertine, not true... demanding it has worked for many other groups
<11> Katey, send him to TomM-
<4> So 10% tax cuts 5% out which stimulates the economy more and especially small buisness. and 100% privatization which gurantees absolute solvency for ever.
<7> panini: ah.. see those are demands on our politicans.
<7> politicians. even
<8> Fr33Trade -- Remeber the New Economic to justify the dot.coms
<5> it's not fair that AAAman was unbanned but I still can't make babble-bot
<5> s
<1> Maybe if people invested in mutual funds or in the market as a whole.
<4> Put it this way, if it ever goes insolvent that means the econmies so bad the government would be insolvent too.
<1> The market has been going up over time steadily.
<9> or anyone, actually
<0> YOGYAKARTA, Indonesia (Reuters) - At least 51 people were killed and hundreds were injured when an earthquake shook the area around Indonesia's ancient royal city of Yogyakarta early on Saturday, hospital staff said. <-----East Timor stirkes back, Allah style
<6> just bust out the ayn rand
<12> bob: I thought AAAman was your bot ??
<6> then some lenin
<0> http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-05-27T024218Z_01_JAK165392_RTRUKOC_0_UK-QUAKE-INDONESIA.xml
<6> then get crazy
<5> AAAman: yeah I remember, Clinton thought the New Economy was great
<4> So the problem wiht 10% owned accounts is this.. How do you pay the promises off to the old ****ers so they can get what they paid into all their life with the promise it would be held in trust for them ?
<4> Well you have to give them there money back.
<4> So you take out a huge bond...
<12> lump sum
<6> medical experiments
<2> Fr33Trade with interest
<4> Like a long mortgage.
<6> to save **** cheney
<10> Vincente is cheering the Senate bill... he wins big if this bill p***es
<4> Kaliuna right because noone would buy bonds without interest.
<2> Fr33Trade exactly!! :)
<6> so he can get all lookingg like the Emperor
<12> just give them bonds
<6> bonds
<6> more cheap paper
<11> why bonds, give them cash
<6> let them eat cake
<12> whichever they want
<4> A bond is a financial instrument, you sell them for money
<1> Pub the immigration bbill?
<4> real money
<14> us_male is an expert
<4> Its debt but you solve social security forever
<0> sintient: hardly that. I like the houses
<12> yeah but they put in X amount -- this would be bonds considered as repayment
<4> You remove it as a ponzy scheme because its already in fact debt.
<1> The house democratic bill was the one that got the most support I thought.
<4> All social security owed to all americans right now is debt because the government borrowed the whole social security trust fund.
<4> every dime of it.
<7> hrm.. howabout instead of paying social security; we just give the money to our eldger family members? :)
<0> sintient: well if that house bill is democrat...then goo democrats
<4> nothing is in the safe except loans to the government.
<7> elder, even
<0> this senate bill was **** on a stick
<15> Free: Right. Its already counted against the national debt, and covered in the budget.
<4> So this time you fix it and end the game
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