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<0> Bloc, you mean, the soldiers that abused prisoners had to see the man? gawrsh.
<1> bud`, i could never say you're a yank, i don't even know what that means
<2> how is the cement truck bomb a WMD? its just a truck bomb
<0> Bloc the minor difference is the US Military actually gets stuff done, were as the UN does not. it only makes a problem worse.
<3> anyways next topic:) how about them dixie chicks
<1> bud`, oh yes.. yankee.. that's it ? :)
<4> afrenchci: un americain, hein
<1> Timur, thanks :)
<2> a bomb is not always a WMD
<5> bun-bun: heh you'd think that.
<5> cl***ic definition of a WMD is chemical, biological, and nuclear.
<4> Edouard Michelin, a joint managing director of France's tyre-maker Michelin, has died on a boating trip.
<1> bud`, i don't know, i thought so..
<4> afrenchci: pdp
<0> well, if we listened to Donkeys, White Phosphorous is WMD
<6> DarthBurg -- As for getting things done -- The Nazis were even more effective
<2> you do know that a bomb is a chemical weapon right? i just dont believe that those small charges that the mythbusters are using qualify
<6> DarthBurg -- The end justifies the means --
<7> DarthBurg: it can be used as a chemical weapon which is illegal, is not not a wmd though
<4> Darth: I'm basically a Dem, and totally favored flattening Fallujah
<4> so hah
<4> incl use of white phos.
<2> otherwise if the admin calls them wmds there is a whole ****storm of stuff required to use one...
<0> Timur, and I do not remember you whining about willy pete
<2> i dont see them in jail yet
<8> Timur: it would **** to be an innocent middle-aged man in fallujah... You'd probably die
<0> Lithium- and what does the US Military use WP for?
<6> Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg yesterday urged an end to the political manipulation of science, which he said had been used to discredit the threat of global warming and undermine medical advancements in areas like stem-cell research.
<9> It's best to just bomb people and stay out like Clinton did, nobody cares if you bomb people...only if you invade and cost them money
<7> DarthBurg: they *claim* they use it for lighting
<1> Timur, did you once heard.. clinton have faced the same issue then WTC, in 95, but terrorists got arrested.. ?
<3> who's gonna watch that new al gore movie?
<4> Guj: and as likely as not because of being surrounded by a rabble of 'militant' terrorists
<6> Bloomberg railed against what he sees as ideologically motivated arguments that have fueled debate over hot-button issues like teaching evolution in public schools and the Terri Schiavo case.
<0> Lithium- well, you got that right.
<10> Gujiri thats why you leave, when you notice fanatical militants sheltering in your neighborhood, you know only 1 things gonna happen
<1> Timur, well they've been arrested before.. going into planes..
<2> isnt that a political maniuplation of science in and of itself?
<4> afrenchci: right, but they didn't cause the same amount of damage as on 9.11
<3> yeah new york republicans are moderate...
<9> Al Gore wants you to give up your car
<4> afrenchci: right, we were too lax, but that doesn't mean we should continue being so
<8> well, war is a dirty business
<1> Timur, they did nothing.. yes.. but their intention.. was to do the exact same thing
<4> sure, but it's already engaged
<6> WotGorila --"Today, we are seeing hundreds of years of scientific discovery being challenged by people who simply disregard facts that don't happen to agree with their agenda,"
<11> wot -- but al G don't mind spending a lot for gas and jet fuel to get to whereever
<4> afrenchci: right, but they didn't
<4> BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Iran has a right to develop nuclear technology and the international community should drop its demands that Tehran prove it's not trying to build a nuclear weapon, Iraq's foreign minister said Friday.
<8> There's no way that you could predict the towers falling by flying planes into them
<6> "Some call it pseudoscience, others call it faith-based science, but when you notice where this negligence tends to take place, you might as well call it 'political science.' "
<9> well, it's ok for him to drive...and his body gairds to have guns...just not you
<9> ;)
<9> gaurds*
<4> Guj: well, if the proper info had been p***ed along, it might well have been prevented
<4> hence the 9/11 repotr
<8> in fact, part of their design was to be able to withstand a plane crash..
<4> -rt
<12> Gujiri, you could if you understood how they were constructed
<3> Kaliuna, the goal is not elimination of our fuel using activities...it's to make the better choice in terms of efficiency
<8> the 9/11 report is perfunctory. Not a real forensic analysis
<3> so of course al gore is gonna fly around and cruise in limo's picking up hippy chicks to bang
<11> bloc -- and AL is soooooo efficient...
<2> then how come they used limos to go 500m this week (gore and crowd?)
<1> Timur, yes.. in fact i discovered that once, recently.. while i thought to myself.. i couldn't believe such a thing to happen with clinton.. for the reason.. he expressed much concern.. and was more about understanding. foreign issue.. and all.. and then ii discovered this :)
<12> They weren't built to withstand the temps of the burning jet fuel though
<4> it's also an analysis of the intel failures, which had the intel agencies coordinated better, could well have stopped some or even all the attacks.
<12> they were built (theoretically) to withstand the stress of impact from a plane
<12> which they did
<10> the foam protecting the steel failed
<1> Timur, then i just thought.. what is really the opposite.. of being radical.. understanding..
<12> They collapsed due to the extended period of exposure to very high temp fire
<0> it was the burning jet fuel they spaced.
<4> afrenchci: it's not just about concern on anyone's part, so much as more and better planning on the terrorists' part
<8> timur: in my opinion it was a forward-looking document and didn't really blame any single manager or politician...
<2> timur you mean the gorelik wall?
<9> I want to go to anti gun rallies and hand out signs for peoples lawns....... "this house has no guns"
<12> the struts that held the floors to the supports weakened
<12> and gave way
<8> blah
<13> the temps reached and the temps needed to cause catastrophic failure are not equal
<10> Katey: actually that wouldnt have happened if the foam wasn't faulty
<12> obviously they are
<1> Timur, at some point.. the more friends you have.. the less.. the terrorists will be able to hide them..
<12> since catastrophic failure is precisely what occured
<13> well then science is all wrong :P
<5> " The US military refers to WMD as:
<5> Weapons that are capable of a high order of destruction and/or of being used in such a manner as to destroy large numbers of people. Weapons of m*** destruction can be high explosives or nuclear, biological, chemical, and radiological weapons, but exclude the means of transporting or propelling the weapon where such means is a separable and divisible part of the weapon"
<5> it is.. a very liberal definition.
<1> Timur, last bomb in france. from islamofascist was in 95... police, / secret service.. and all.. they got arrested..
<11> all encomp***ing definition
<5> which why, YES we did find WMD's in Iraq.. but that is only because of the above definition allows for 'high explosives'
<1> Timur, and use of all ties.. with others nations..
<9> Hell, if I wanted to kill a LOT of people, I would make a catapult and lob a fuel tanker into a Dixie Chix Concert
<14> We found both sarin and mustard gas, again.... http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120913,00.html
<14> just not huge amounts
<2> there were bio weapons and chemical precursors and so on as well
<4> afrenchci: it's partially true, but the fact is that 9/11 was being planned during Clinton's term of office
<4> so don't confuse the issues.
<3> don't phear the dixie chicks:)
<2> thats a little different than recl***ing to say yes we found WMD's
<1> Timur, what's the purpose of terrorist.. to be seen bigger then the bunch of bad people who they are
<0> so we just ignore the mustard gas, the sarin gas, the dual use pesticides, the uranium, and the illegal shell casings?
<10> they found all those explosives at that al caca dump and screamed that Bush was being an idiot for not securing the wmd's
<1> Timur, plan.. it was in 95..
<3> anyways:)
<5> <14> We found both sarin and mustard gas, again....
<2> darth dont forget the recent cyanide order and so on that was recently translated
<5> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WMD
<9> want to kill a lot of people, drive a pickup truck through a parade
<14> yeah?
<1> Timur, in 95 was nearly the exact same plan as in 2001, except the planes came from the phillipines
<14> you're saying sarin and mustard gas aren't WMDs?
<6> "Despite near-unanimity in the science community, there's now a movement, driven by ideology and short-term economics, to ignore the evidence and discredit the reality of climatic change,"
<0> No, that it was perfectly ok for saddam to have them because Bush Lied.
<5> Exdeath: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_m***_destruction
<9> want to kill a lot of people???...set up Fast Food restaurants all over america
<0> you have to remember, Saddam is just a misunderstood leader, Bush is the bad guy.
<9> Ronald McDaonalds and his WMD burgers
<14> yeah?
<6> "Was there anything more inappropriate than watching political science try to override medical science in the Terri Schiavo case?"
<9> McDonalds has killed more people than terrorists
<9> heh
<0> got any stats on that?
<10> fast food myths
<10> anti-corporate crap
<1> Timur, from my point of view;. it looks like .. the iraq invasion.. opened a new front, we didn't need.. and enstrenghened some kind of ressentment and fear in the neighbouring arabic nations..
<0> afrenchci is really Captian Kirk
<0> ain
<15> .... so how did political science override medical science again
<9> no...and I don't have any stats on Nuke test fallouts either...but I guess 2000 above ground nukes going off upwind from the states was safe too
<9> ;)
<2> oh yeah because they were so stable before... the damn middle east has been in huge upheaval for what 1500 years now?
<0> WotGorila sounds like a victim
<6> "It boggles the mind that nearly two centuries after Darwin, and 80 years after John Scopes was put on trial, the country is still debating the validity of evolution,"
<4> afrenchci: you're confusing cause and effect. It was precisely because les maudits arabes thought they could fund, support and commit acts of terrorism that the Iraq war had to happen.
<1> Timur, pretty good at advertising the bunch of terrorists we started with..
<15> what does the scopes trial have to do with anything
<2> thats probably bushes fault too.. that damn time travel device he has
<9> didn't you know, nuke fallout is good for you...only cigs cause cancer
<9> ;)
<4> afrenchci: then the catalyzation of changing that mentality had best start sooner rather than later: )
<6> redfish -- Scopes trial ? What is it about
<4> http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2006/05/22/tomo/teaser.jpg <-- good cartoon
<1> Timur, there was no terrorists in iraq before the war.. as far as i recall much of them came in afterwards.. when all borders were free to cross
<0> bun-bun he keeps it next to the Global Warming Creation Gun, and the Hurricane Machine down on the docks in a warehouse owned by Haliburton.
<4> afrenchci: except there were.
<8> timur: israel has been trying to change that mentality for a long *** time..
<15> i know what the scopes trial was about. why does '80 years after the scopes trial' matter. it sounds like the person is trying to frame a logical context, but the fact that the scopes trial occured 80 years ago is irrelevant isnt it
<0> lol
<4> Guj: with a smaller army affecting a smaller area and therefore having a smaller impact
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