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Comments:
<0> yes icmps...
<1> the existing entitlements. the existing wealth and power.
<2> Minarchists dont accept regulation. They accept a Nightwatchman state and NOTHING more.
<0> Anarchy is NOT a solution
<1> minarchy isn't a solution either
<2> Thats the definition of minarchy
<0> because anarchy is not governance
<1> and neither is anarcho-syndicalism
<3> hahaha, no lines should be drawn! Drime is a right!
<0> minarchy sure as hell is a solution
<2> e-Hernick: Who here is advocating syndicalism?
<1> city-states are a solution
<3> err, crime
<1> with minarchic rural wastelands
<0> City-States are as modern as the internal combustion engine
<3> icmps, what country are you in anyway?
<3> Where do loons like you exist?
<2> TheTailor: The us... Florida
<0> a Minarchist for example would discard any Stupid gun law that interfered with law abiding citizens rights..
<2> But we're all over the country
<2> ;)
<3> icmps, in a guearded facility? Are there people in white coats around?
<0> but realizes..no Junior can not pack a MAC-10 in his lunch box
<2> TheTailor: Not yet. :P
<1> the people should not be allowed to own and operate miniguns
<2> CryHavoc: A minarchist disregards ALL laws . and only ensures that people dont kill each other
<2> It otherwise leaves us and the market to its own devices
<3> icmps, how do you insure that with no laws?
<0> icmps...wrong
<1> icmps: under capitalism, man exploits man. under communism, it's the other way around. the government must attempt to reduce exploitation.
<2> TheTailor: monopoly on force?
<0> A minarchist realizes that some laws need to be in effect...but no more than is needed
<2> You dont necessarily need laws to keep people from killing each other ..
<3> icmps, how do you do that? Take weapons awaqy from everyone but those you choose to have them?
<2> I dont think you need a minarchist state for that, either .. but ..
<0> Industry used to pollute with impunity....until they set lake Erie on fire...
<1> set lake erie on fire?
<1> what are you talking about
<3> icmps, are you going to take knives away from the public?
<2> TheTailor: No ..
<0> e-hernick...in 1960s
<3> icmps, how about bats? Are people allowed to beat the hell out of others with bats?
<0> TT...no...
<2> Minarchy is for people who are afraid of "warlords" in an entirely stateless society
<2> So, a minimal state aims to replace its function
<0> but as self defense? yes
<3> icmps, temm me how you will have a monopoly on force.
<3> tell
<1> lord of war icmps, lead our bloc of city-states against the evil northern invader
<0> Our Constitution was constructed on Minarchist terms...
<0> Powers of the Federal Government are specifically stated...and MINIMAL
<3> icmps, and where dows such a state exist other than your mind?
<2> TheTailor: The same way the US government has one ..
<1> quick poll: will there be an american revolution leading to a new form of american government, within the next 25 years?
<2> TheTailor: The US was largely minarchist in the late 1700s.
<0> icmps is where they get term idiotarian
<3> icmps, the US Government hasn't a monopoly on force.
<2> At the federal level, at least .. for a brief period
<0> The very Constitution is minarchist
<4> This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or other throw it.
<4> other = over
<3> icmps, largely? I don't think so, are you telling me people didn't have arms or other weapons in the late 1700's?
<0> 426..icmps is under the impression that anarchy is a governmental state, versus a transitional state
<2> CryHavoc: Our constitution wasnt intended to be minarchist .. thats just a disguise
<0> icmps...WRONG!!!!
<2> CryHavoc: It may appear that way, but it isnt
<2> dude
<4> Cry, this is icmps typical diatribe
<2> if it was, we wouldnt be in the situation
<2> this*
<3> What situation?
<0> fed is given a specific but small set of powers vested to it...
<2> With a federal govt as out of control as it is today
<0> all not given to fed specifically belong to states
<3> out of conteol how?
<3> Damn
<0> 426..icmps is no libertarian
<2> CryHavoc: And that ended in the 1780s or whatever w/ the alien and sedition acts.. Nice constitution!
<3> Out of control how?
<5> sedition act?
<5> that gets me now
<4> the problem is, the likes of icmps are whiners because their minority can not live up to the standards the majority sets upon them, they are un-relenting in their drive to subject the will of a few upon the majority
<2> Right.
<0> 426...or simply constantly destory everything...
<3> icmps, you are a loon :-)
<2> I'm the minority meanwhile me and the rest of the non-voters in the country comprise the largest contingent of people of any other group.
<0> thats out of the Trotskyite handbook
<2> Whatever you say, though.
<4> ever wonder why there are only ever a few handfuls of anarchists at protests? its because your view however popular amongst yourselves is, is null compared with the majority
<0> because anarchy is not a working proposition
<1> "March 6th, 2023: After millenia in isolation, YHWH has finally returned on earth, and so has Allah. After meeting with American Emperor Jenna Bush, he has promised three plagues, 2 firstborn-slayings, 100 fireballs and 3 death-rays of death to the American people. However, after meeting with Allah, Caliph Muhammad bin Mua'dib has been granted instant teleportation for up to 100000 troops..."
<3> icmps, others not voting doesn't mean they support your insane thoughts :-)
<1> let the ultimate crusades begin!
<6> get a grip
<0> Que'bec
<6> dibs on mr toads wild tea party
<0> Man'i'to'ba
<1> Vive le Qubec! Vive le Qubec Libre!
<0> Oui Oui!!!
<6> humanitoba
<7> e-Hernick, you reading that fromthe book Dune?
<0> Newly ConfusedFounderedland
<4> Plainly, the central idea of secession is the essence of anarcy. A majority held in restraint by the constitutional checks and limitations, and always changing easily with deliberate changes of popular opinions and sentiments, is the only true sovereign of a free people. Whoever rejects it does, of necessity, fly to anarchy or to despotism.
<1> compdoc: I borrowed mua'dib, but that's all
<8> Getting ready to talk to a builder about a new home...in organizing myself I clean out old pages from a notbook...most of those old pages are vicodin/darvocet schedules from last years illness's What wonderful memories
<0> rond...hahah
<8> 7 weeks of it
<0> I need to do same regarding contractor
<8> :)
<6> i didn't realize vicodin was proscribed for mental illness
<0> Linus..its for when the Anal-Sin aspirin does not work
<6> um
<6> HUH?
<8> 7 weeks of vicodin *will* cause you anal problems
<0> black humored joke
<3> I had to take that **** for my back
<0> What did the Priest do after he violated the Altar Boy?
<6> called up another one?
<8> I hate that stuff just the memories make me nausiated
<0> He too Anal-Sin Aspirin...slaves the painful guilt away
<0> salves
<6> CryHavoc, id let it go
<0> nahh Linus...good humor it was
<4> <+icmps> I'm the minority meanwhile me and the rest of the non-voters in the country comprise the largest contingent of people of any other group. <----- even then icmps you are a minority even in THAT block...
<0> 426..Idiotarians :)
<9> Luce didn't flinch in the face of the counterprotest. The author, host of the "Acquire the Fire TV" cable television program and a President Bush appointee to a federal anti-drug-abuse commission, wants teens to find Bible-based solutions for the spread of ***ually transmitted disease, teen pregnancy, drug abuse and suicide.
<9> I like that
<0> heh bible based solutions...
<3> `426Hemi, he thinks peole that don't vote are with him :-)
<4> because you are a "non voter" doesn't make all non-voters anarchists/minarchists/despots, or whatever you may call yourself at any given moment
<0> lock up the teens having *** in stocks...
<8> from what I have seen ICMPS's ideas are a very very small minority of ideas
<6> yeah, theocracies have a history of great success
<6> :(
<0> or bring back burnings at the stake...
<9> CryHavoc, or simply teach that it is unhealthy and immoral to be promiscious
<0> or maybe some good ostracization/excoriation....
<6> besides, the bible will point out that 13 year olds were getting pregnant all the time
<0> Herzen...the prob with that...is what you espouse there..quickly spills over into what i stated...
<0> Humans are way too efficient at grinding their own...
<9> ... no it doesn't
<3> No it doesn't
<0> yes it does...
<6> no it does
<6> have we covered all bases?
<0> you start aligning peeps under this and that religion...or this and that faith...
<9> Once you get parents back to p***ing on the correct values to their children, then we'll see a ren***iance of correct social values
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