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<0> Actually, I talked to an American friend of mine who lives in the west bank
<1> good grief
<2> Renea: please, don't even try to bull**** me by implying that you were only offering an observation...you had an ulterior motive behind mentioning your "observation"
<2> Pickle: so true
<0> from what he says, the voting for Hamas was more of a "Fatah is so corrupt let's try this instead" thing, more than a "Hamas! Terror! RARARA!" type thing
<3> Renea : Have you been sniffing the ***ohol ?
<4> No matter how evil the act is, there will be Reneas out there to try to justify it.
<5> IamKing: Indeed. Wow, you must be one of those telepaths from Star Trek.
<1> well, they have to put a happy face on it
<6> Nomex` they still voted them in, what's the difference?
<5> Pickle: What am I justifying?
<4> And so, naturally, the Palestinians don't understand how completely ****ed up it is to vote for Hamas.
<7> why would any country let a terrorist political party run a candidate for leader?
<0> kobushi: Hamas has already been controlling parts of Palestine
<2> Nomex`: well, if they want to be that pathetically mentally inept as the only reason why they should vote that way without looking at the big picture, then they will reap what they sow...which is their own destruction
<1> to bad hamas has already stated they will change NONE of there views and activities
<0> iamking: Hamas will become more legitimate
<4> Renea: I'm sure you'll get around to being an apologist for this latest Palestinian disgrace. We've been seeing it all day from your side.
<2> Nomex`: that's as stupid as Bush-haters voting for Kerry because he's simply not Bush
<0> they have to
<8> Janet_B, heh, a party that doesnt lie to get into office?
<5> Pickle: Who's defending Palestine?
<6> Nomex` How does that change Hama's policies of children suicide bombing buses? :)
<9> iamking doesnt like reneas attitude
<5> Pickle: And what exactly is "my side?"
<2> Nomex`: which means we can formally declare war on Palestine if they initiate one more terrorist attack...bomb them into submission...and overthrow their government
<1> lgcbmb, they said that this morning
<0> kobushi: because those policies don't win them foreign aid
<0> and ultimately hurts the populous
<6> Nomex` ... again, SO WHAT? The Populous VOTED FOR THEM
<10> Renea, well you do, when you say Democracy is good unless we don't like the winners.
<2> Renea: no, actually one of the telepaths from Babylon 5 :P
<1> well.. to bad for the people
<0> iamking: you know, I sort of remember the US being all for free elections
<6> Nomex` the motivations for WHY they voted for them don't matter.
<4> Renea: Radical leftists like Rachel Corrie, aka Saint Pancake, that's who.
<5> TheTailor: Not true at all.
<1> they voted them in, they deal with the conquences
<8> ugh, looks like another year of high oil prices at any rate
<0> I like the double standard
<0> free elections until you elect someone the US doesn't like
<3> If you have been sniffing the ***ohol you belong on Isle 3
<5> Pickle: Ah, revelling in the death of another human being. How Christian.
<4> Nomex: When did anyone condemn the free nature of the elections?
<1> they have there election, now they live with the results
<2> Nomex`: yes, and governments have the responsibility of acting responsibly (committing terrorist acts is irresponsible)...therefore, if they initiate one more terrorist attack, then it's war...plain and simple...I have no ****ing clue why you do not grasp this simple concept
<0> pickle: [20:15] <2> Nomex`: which means we can formally declare war on Palestine if they initiate one more terrorist attack...bomb them into submission...and overthrow their government
<1> Renea.. how do YOU know who is christian and who isn't here
<6> Nomex` thier election was perfectly free... but now they have to face the conequences of thier violent and dispicable choice. Such as a lack of foreign aid.
<4> Renea: I'm not a Christian, but if there's a hell it's a sure bet that terrorist-supporting refuse like Corrie are there.
<8> Nomex, if a nation elects an admin that threatens our or our allies national security we are not obliged to endorse them
<5> Janet_B: IamKing instructed me on mind-reading.
<6> Nomex` as well as a MAJOR loss of sympathy from around the world
<1> gotta love that.. you disagree with me.. how christian of you, like that is some sort of slam
<4> Renea: And you bet that I "revel" in the death of people who defend terrorist vermin.
<5> Janet_B: Yeah, the New Testament is filled with all sorts of people mocking the deaths of other human beings.
<5> Pickle: Good for you.
<5> Renea's Motive: Democracy doesn't have jack-**** to do with our geo-political goals, democracies are just as good as dictatorships. Ah, but how we buy into the "bringing democracy to Iraq" message.
<6> Nomex` just because the Pals may have only voted for Hamas as a opposition to Fata, doesn't mean there won't be any consequences for that decision.
<11> If you have been sniffing the ***ohol you belong on Isle 3 wear the gasmasks and the Tinfoil hats are.
<8> I will make mine arrows drunk with blood, And my sword shall devour flesh; With the blood of the slain and the captives, From the head of the leaders of the enemy.
<6> Nomex` it's no less foolish than if they all were really supporting Hama's policies; because the resault is the same.
<1> Renea.. as I said how do YOU know who is christian here, and WHY bring christianity into a political debate.. it sure is convient for you all to want to seperate state and religion, and then use religion when you think it might help you in trying to slam someone
<5> Janet_B: oh put a plug in it already
<8> oh dear
<0> kobushi: I know that, all I'm arguing is that it's stupid to think Hamas is gonna cause WWIII before they even take office
<10> Renea, elections are fine, it doesn't mean we have to love the winners.
<5> TheTailor: I don't have any affection for Hamas.
<0> Hezbollah has been governing Lebanon for how long?
<12> http://boortz.com/more/funny/decoding_womens_personal_ads.html
<6> Nomex` I don't think they'll cause WW3; but the Palestinians have, imo, ruined any hope they had for peace.
<12> mawhahahaa
<11> I am a Christian
<4> Renea: Funny, but I don't think you were accusing the Europeans of hypocrisy when they were threatening to diplomatically isolate Austria for voting for the Freedom Party. I'm sure you supported that, in fact.
<5> Of course, the radicals in this channel jump to ***umptions before I have stated my argument in full.
<0> Kobushi: I don't think it has
<1> Renea.. what.. you do not like being called on the carpet?
<0> I think it will depend on how Hamas handles their new found power
<0> There's far less corruption in Hamas, I'll give it that
<6> Nomex` futher, once Hamas is the ruler of the nation... and still encourages terrorist activitis... guess what? It's not a faction in Palestine doing it... it's now a government attacking an other state.
<13> janet_b: excellent point
<5> Pickle: unfamiliar with that incident
<12> true radicals are hated by both sides of the political spectrum
<13> :)
<10> Renea, well you certainly gave them cause.
<13> about state & religious separation
<6> Nomex` which means Israel would have UN justification for full military action against them.
<4> Renea: And by the way, Bush praised the democratic process that the Palestinians engaged in, at the same time as he expressed his disappointment at the results. So as usual, the only real hypocrites are the left.
<0> Kobushi: as I said, Hamas has been in control of parts of the country for a long time already
<12> id like to seperate bush from spending peoples money
<6> Nomex` but not of the GOVERNMENT
<6> Nomex` up untill now the gov. had plausible deniability of the terrorist attacks
<12> and my unborn childrens money
<12> and grand childrens
<6> Nomex` that plausible deniability is gone now
<5> TheTailor: Not really. Just because I state the truth, they ***ume I support Hamas/Iraq/HugoHugo.
<4> Renea: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B6rg_Haider
<1> MikeyD.. like you are gonna have kids and grandkids... heh...
<12> sooner or later
<2> Renea: the only thing you state is bull****, which is far from the truth
<1> naw they will all be aborted anyway :D
<12> technically, all i have to do is have kids, theyll have kids of their own
<5> IamKing: Zap
<12> now why would that happen?
<5> Pickle: Indeed Bush did support the process, which is a good thing.
<1> MikeyD.. why not
<13> what is the point renea is trying to make?
<12> uh
<12> i think the burden of proof is on you with this one
<13> (if i scroll up i'll have 10 more pages to read by the time i find it)
<5> Pickle: I am more concerned with the opinion of the Bush supporter.
<1> MikeyD... never mind :)
<4> Renea: A fact that renders all this winging about American hypocrisy where support for democracy is concerned null and void.
<6> suna no idea
<13> where did religion come into it?
<13> I couldn't find a source to that it my half ***ed attempt to scroll up
<12> democracy ****s...
<4> Renea: Like who? Who has said that the Palestinians shouldn't have had a democratic election?
<1> oh suna, she was trying to say revel in death and praise Jesus on monday
<5> Suna: How can we use the justification of "democracy" in Iraqi to legitize that conflict, but distain the democractically elected governments elsewhere.
<6> I'm sure glad I don't live in a democracy, a representative republic is way better
<6> :)
<12> its a substitutional buzz word for "constitutional republic" these days
<13> oooooooooooh
<14> wow a total of 21 drug tunnels so far todate
<1> like all christians 1 are for the war, and 2 that all christians are in this channel.. as a slam, for to make them out to be hyprocits
<14> 4 this year
<12> just as bigotry has been replaced with racism
<13> praise jesus on monday? why? i say wednesday
<8> I for one welcome our new insect overlords. I'd like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves.
<12> it shows just how stupid people really are these days
<6> Renea how does an embracing and love of democracy as a system mean that we cannot disaprove of the choice other democracies make?
<13> well, as far as this channel goes there don't seem to be any christian psychos from the flat earth society
<13> however, you CAN stereotype various things very accurately based on religion:P
<6> Renea I mean, I like ice cream; but some ice cream is nasty
<12> like they stereotyped jesus as being white?
<1> suna.. but as libs say.. religion has no place in politics, unless they think they can use it against you
<1> hahah
<13> janet: both sides are equally guilty of that
<6> religion has no place in GOVERNMENT, bu religion is inseperable from politics
<13> but then again, yesterday somebody was calling every person in the country a liberal
<13> so
<13> what do ya know
<2> KoBushi: very true
<13> nobody was arguing with his *** either
<13> it was funny, it came right after one of my rants about how these words don't mean anything anymore too
<5> KoBushi: We can disaprove of them, as we should. But only time will tell how the Hamas government will be cast. Democractic elections brought about hostile regimes in Iran and Venezula, both of which have been attacked as "un democratic."
<6> wel, I guess except those w/o a religion
<13> and suddenly everyone from a tree hugger in berkeley to a die hard conservative who voted for bush is a liberal
<13> oh well
<5> <4> A day after Hamas swept to an upset victory in the Palestinian parliamentary elections, former US President Jimmy Carter on Thursday said that Wednesday's voting had been orderly and fair.
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