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<0> yeh
<0> =)
<1> alito is a good guy
<0> i get it now
<0> i was wondering about the whole filibuster thing, i have never been able to actually watch one
<0> it would be interesting to see
<1> it's quite tiring
<1> strom thurmon had the longest one i think, 28 hours or something like that
<2> Senator Strom Thurmond (D-SC) set a record in 1957 by filibustering the Civil Rights Act of 1957 for 24 hours and 18 minutes, although the bill ultimately p***ed. Thurmond broke the previous record of 22 hours and 26 minutes set by Wayne Morse (I-OR) in 1953 protesting the Tidelands Oil legislation.
<1> hey now!
<1> heh
<3> i think we may be headed for ww III or atleast a big semi-global conflict:/
<2> im suprised goldwater didnt get up and backhand him
<0> all i know is that Robert Byrd has the longest filibuster time in the USA
<1> ?
<0> badlands, I don't think so, there is lots of oppurtunity but i think everything is fine
<0> =)
<1> you're mixing up your racist southern senators rusty, Byrd is the KKK guy from W. VA, Thurmon is the old dead guy that Trent Lott resigned his post for praising
<3> i hope
<4> filibuster you can catch on CSPAN
<4> when there is one
<1> they don't happen anymore heh
<0> US-Male yeh i never got to see one
<4> you can see Byrd talking about his dog for 3 hours
<0> US_Male is there a time limit?
<4> "Mah dog Billy, he's a fahhhn dawg"
<0> see thats what i want i want the nitty gritty rules
<4> no they just keep babbling
<0> how long can they babble?
<4> it's really senseless, I don't know why we have it
<1> rusty are you not reading what i've read
<5> It's all a mess of hot air, liberals jumping up and down because they know if Alito joins in to strike down Roe v Wade they are ****ing SUNK.
<4> as long as they can keep it up
<1> i've addressed all of this
<0> see as soon as a guy is done talking, the leader of his party, the filibuster is done
<4> they switch off
<0> nah
<4> tag team
<0> no switching
<6> I'd like to see R v W struck down
<0> **** that
<1> yes they do
<6> but I fear the political consequences it would have in Canada
<2> According to a Historical Moments Essay on the U.S. Senate website, the Republican Party was the first to initiate a filibuster against a judicial nominee in 1968, forcing Democratic president Lyndon Johnson to withdraw the nomination of ***ociate Supreme Court Justice Abe Fortas to be chief justice.
<0> you have your time, thats it.....
<1> Byrd and Thurmon tag-teamed the Civil Rights Bill i believe
<0> yer done, don't come back
<4> imo, filibusters should never have been allowed in the first place
<0> i agree
<4> that should have been killed the first time someone did it
<7> they should replace them with dodgeball tourneys
<1> it's an interesting evolved check i suppose
<0> ever look up the term Filibuster?
<0> it means PIRATE
<7> kaPOW the motion p***es!
<0> hahaha
<4> yeah dodgeball would be better ;p
<0> filibuster was used for the first time after the split of the republican/democrat party
<1> i think it is really useful actually - think about it, only controversial legislation will get fillibustered, and it's important in democracies to provide checks and balances for all minority groups and reperesent as many interests as possible - a filibuster is nice little cushion to make sure a big majority is required for controversial leg.
<0> if i recall correctly
<0> back in the early 1800s
<1> (as rusty reads google)
<1> :-/
<0> i don't rightly remember now
<4> canibud: except that it's not only "controversial" things that get filibustered
<4> it's anything that "my side wants to win"
<1> US-Male: for the most part yea
<0> this is sad
<0> you have extremists in the audience who are using loud speakers to rally support for themselves
<8> http://glock21.blogspot.com/2005/05/filibuster.html
<0> i want to hear what they are saying
<4> and everybody wants to win every little thing
<0> go Glock21~
<0> thank you SonofSpam=)
<0> i don't know why but Cloture sounds like a really bad tampon disease or something
<0> to me
<4> lol
<4> maybe you're thinking of the Jamaican term for it
<0> I don't even want to know
<0> =P
<4> hahah
<0> but strangely curious at the same time
<4> RAMALLAH, West Bank (AP) - Israel ruled out talks and the vanquished Fatah rejected a joint government with Hamas after the Islamic movement's sweeping victory in Palestinian elections, in what could be just the first steps in isolating the incoming rulers and freezing Mideast peace initiatives.
<4> Israel says "**** ya's"
<0> Fox gets sooo ****y after a while
<0> i like their morning show
<0> now you get "commentators while camera's roll"
<0> "Uhh Uhhh this is what i think is going to happen..."
<0> because there are riots in Palestine, the world is coming to an end
<0> because Hamas has been elected the world is going to blow up!
<0> haha this ****s nuts
<0> let the Palestinians live with their decision, if they make war, they will get war back...
<4> ``Today, Hamastan was formed, a representative of Iran and in the image of the Taliban,'' said Benjamin Netanyahu, leader of the hawkish Likud Party.
<4> hahaha
<0> in my mind what i am seeing now is the same **** i have seen in other failed countries
<9> bbiab... gonna watch "Lord of War"
<4> at least he isn't afraid to say it
<0> Us, yeh thats what our local news paper said
<0> "Hamastan"
<0> big black letters hahaha
<0> i am happy for them
<4> heh
<0> i am glad they held elections
<0> they went the wrong way... well thats their choice
<4> thing is, suppose they split off into a small country -- things will get worse
<0> there is responsbility with democracy and they will learn that eventually
<4> they'll want MORE land, and the bitching will never end
<0> let them have their own country with distinct borders
<0> claims that can not be resolved will be neutral zones under international law
<4> sure, but that won't solve it
<1> hmmm to skip cl*** or not to skip cl***
<0> nope it won't solve ****
<1> that is the question
<0> nothing will until one or the other dies heh
<0> ever been in a chatroom where everyone hates you
<1> The mid-east is going to go ****ing insane coming up
<0> =)
<4> however IF Hamas forms a new country for "palestinians", then Israel can totally bar them from entering Israel
<0> thats kind of what israel is like now
<0> hehehe
<4> but they share electric and water lines
<0> Us, not no more=)
<4> well, yeah - they do and it would take a long time to change that
<0> I think we need to give it some time
<0> let the hamas party go on
<0> give it a few months
<0> they will see that "Woah we got power!"
<0> but there is retribution that comes with that power
<1> try a week
<0> =)
<4> even if they publicaly renounce terrorism, nobody will really believe them
<0> they will realise that they have a larger responsibility to their people than just making war
<1> the world climate is such that the method of revolution Hamas is going about is not acceptable or feasible anymore
<4> strangely though, that is what people are asking for: "Hamas must renounce terrorism" .... even if they did, it's just for political reasons
<4> not a real belief
<0> there is more to life and government than just carrying an ak-47 in the streets and sponsoring terror
<10> like robbing citizens with taxes
<11> Am I the only one who sees this ending in a bombing?
<0> Iran needs a major foot in its *** now
<1> people are asking for that because it would be catastrophic if bush were saying "this is unacceptable! we fight terrorism and hamas is a terrorist organization that was elected to the government of the palestinian land"
<0> if you cut off the stupidness from palestinians
<0> they will be ALOT better off
<1> it would be turning on the palestinians
<1> because theres a bleeding heart for them on the world platform
<4> canibud but it doesn't change reality if Hamas decided to say "OK my buddies, I renounce terrorism"
<4> WINK
<1> US-Male: i know, but it's really a complete paradox in bush's policy
<4> they can have it both ways, and play the same game Arafat did for so long
<0> I don't think Hamas is as bad as everyone is making out
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