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<0> "Quit your job"
<1> you ever notice that the majority of people going on and on about white power usually live in trailer parks?
<2> we should just do away w/ all forms of money/pay/etc that way people can't complain abou tlosing money
<2> :-P
<1> not exactly a good vision of power there
<3> CometBaby: I got called a crook yesterday by a policy holder's son
<4> I found a simole way to limit employee access to computers.. p*** words :)
<5> canibud .. did it make you proud?
<3> CometBaby: regarding none other than god damn variable universal :-/
<3> CometBaby: no, but it definitely made me reflect a little more
<1> dude, one of the best things that we could do is get rid of paper money and go back to striking gold and silver coins
<5> canibud you know the truth about what you are selling, and you do it anyway. Don't expect people to respect your for doing it.
<3> She's an old client, i had nothing to do with her acquisition, i'm just an ***istant who deals with bull**** and maintenance and such
<3> But i had to field the call from this poor lady's son who accused us of swindling her and giving misleading info
<3> and it was painful
<3> it's one thing to debate it casually, another when it affects people persoally and they are pissed and feel personally attacked or something
<6> sometimes the truth hurts
<1> just remember
<1> truth knows no sensitivity
<7> why is it so hard for people to understand that when you go to your job, you are expected to work for the money you are payed?
<2> hehe
<3> CometBaby: hey i'm not in any bargaining position, i feel lucky that I can be ***istant to a major financial planner in North Florida, i'm not going to quit a good job on account of being against one small aspect of my boss' huge arsenal of planning tools
<1> `426Hemi: oh ****, thats how that werks
<2> taht burned out SUV is still ssitting there partially submerged in the Rio Grande
<1> i never knew
<3> CometBaby; post-graduation i would have nothing to do with selling life insurance, especially permanent
<7> L0c0 its in Mexico?
<3> CometBaby: i'm just trying to latch on to anything linked to the finance field so i dont get all book and no experience while i'm studying
<2> 426Hemi: its on the mexican side of the river
<7> it will sit there for a long time then
<5> canibud, you are learning an important lesson here though. You are learning that there are a lot of people out there who are not ****ers, and are not stupid. They do understand what you are selling .. and they will hold you accountable for it.
<3> CometBaby: but not too much later i fielded a call from the client herself apologizing profusely for her son's rude attitude :-)
<3> CometBaby: he was some venture capitalist...i'm surprised he didn't take a more proactive part in his mother's planning - i suppose she's been a client a while, maybe before her son gained influence
<5> canibud, that is because she is an old woman, who trusted someone she should not have trusted, and didn't listen to the one person who really did have her best interests at heart.
<3> well he had a good argument
<1> stupid is as stupid does
<8> Now Canibud if you will only listen to some of us on the Pot and Adderall....
<3> he was basically pissed that she had accumlated $50k of cash value in a policy that has had lots more $ pumped into it, and he said it was stupid to use that vehicle and potential money earned on other interests was lost as well as wasted premiums/contributions/etc.
<3> i only got this job the spring sem, start of the new year
<6> term life + interest bearing CDs > perm life always
<1> w00t
<1> rootkits for bios
<7> AHHH!!!
<3> Null_Ptr: theres tons of different better options
<7> ooops sorry
<9> no you're not
<5> canibud .. I know that you were trained and taught to sell that. You were given the benefits of it and you were NEVER told the downside. Obviously they didn't teach it in school either .. tho most schools do now teach it.
<7> nah, not really ;)
<9> Hemi: heh .. I had a friend who woke up that way all the time
<3> and if i were my boss and i was working on her particular case, i would not have sold her permanent insurance, in other peoles cases i do actually still feel that it is useful
<5> The thing is once people explain the other side of it to you .. you should see the light.
<9> Hemi: we had to poke him with a long stick to wake him up
<7> OcDoc, i wake up that way=(
<4> 67% of americans believe that osama is planning attacks on america.. and 85% belive Irans wish for unarium for military use
<3> CometBaby: of course i know the downsides, i had just not yet encountered a case of someone severely pissed off with their current policy - only skeptics who swore never to get perm insu and talked it down big time
<7> OcDoc when i was a kid i told my mom to **** off once
<5> You are like a democrat who never reads anything but what they put up and the democratic underground. You think its the truth. Then someone tells you what is really going on, and you don't want to believe it.
<7> she said i leaned up and cursed her out big time, eyes wide open
<7> she woudln't believe that i wasn't awake
<3> CometBaby: i wouldn't go that far
<2> Israel rules out talks with Hamas
<7> i didn't remember a bit of it, in fact got in double trouble for telling her that she was lying hahaha
<1> ha
<1> she called you a democrat
<3> i consider myself fairly knowledgable regarding all aspects of financial planning, and i know the pro's and the con's, and the good combos, etc.
<9> canibud/Comet: in this case the word "better" is the key ... because it's much BETTER for the insurance company
<5> canibud, I had the feeling that when I took whole life apart the other day .. that was the first time you had ever confronted anyone who had given you an intelligent rebuttal of it. And you were surprised that others in the channel also understood what a fraud it is.
<0> MikeyD: The white power movement is just ****.
<0> And how do I know?
<7> L0c0, what needs to happen is Abbas has to give Hamas a chance to change their line, if not, then he has to dissolve elections
<9> many people can't make themselves "save" so they have to buy "whole life" in order to kid themselves into saving
<7> dissolve parliament
<0> Not from reading BBCNews.com, but from reading Stormfront.org and similiar nonsense websites.
<1> any movement based on race is ****
<9> but the insurance company gets the better deal
<10> Timboi
<0> That's how I know. By actually studying what they have to say, and debunking it.
<3> i talked to my boss about that too, if he pushed perm insu just for the commish, and he said it would be irresponsible for him to do so
<11> Zerskoiovitchsku
<1> race in all reality is stupid to even consider
<0> Censoring it only means people won't bother to debunk it.
<11> H0
<5> OcDoc correct. The only people who should buy whole life are people too stupid to save any other way.
<12> cani: Hah.
<11> bah. H-
<12> You think he's gonna come out and say it?
<7> the other thing that has to be realised is that Iran had a HUGE HUGE stake in these elections
<0> Noam Chomsky made a great point the other day.
<7> and I BET that Iran had some major money put into this election
<9> ARmon: you're kidding
<10> Noam Chomsky hasn't made a good point in his life.
<10> Nevermind 'the other day'
<3> CometBaby: no one is too stupid to save any other way
<5> ARmon what did he say? "I should stick to linguistics?"
<11> Herz: well, re: linguistics..\
<0> ;) Hehehehehehehe.
<0> CometBaby: ;) Hehehehe.
<10> The man is intellectually dishonest
<11> but not politics so much
<0> It's funny how criticising US foreign policy is just somehow a taboo.
<3> i think whole life plans serve a greater purpose of consolidation and organization
<0> The ***umption that the US government is magically infallable. ;)
<12> Arm: Herzen isn't American.
<7> criticising is one thing, acting like a moron is quite another
<1> ill give the us **** for it all day long provided theyre wrong
<9> Armon: nope ... but Chomsky doesn't make good points ... ever
<0> Anyway, he said that the invasion of Iraq told Iran, they *better* have WMDs.
<3> it appeals to older healthy couples who want a simple, organized, easy to understand, consolidated plan
<10> I'm not saying intelligent criticism of U.S. Foreign policy is bad
<10> I'm saying that Noam Chomsky is intellectually dishonest
<4> I bought a whole life policy on my kids, that I paid in 10 years... so they have 25K policy that is all paid for... in case anything ever happeneds to them.... but it was cheap cause they were tiny.. and they could use it now if they wanted...
<7> criticising minimises the bull**** this guy has spoken, his hatred drives him
<10> He works from a set of preconceptions and tries to find evidence to support them
<0> OcDoc: Lemme guess. You've only read debunks, and never a single essay he has written himself?
<5> canibud that is nothing but rhetoric. You are spouting the party line when you say things like that. It does not make you sound intelligent.
<10> Instead of looking at the evidence and coming to a conclusion
<1> yeah, im all for the **** kicking of iran
<10> Hes intellectually dishonest.
<0> I've noticed that people attribute all kinds of crap to Chomsky that simply isn't true.
<9> Armon: Chomsky doesn't have a clue what influence Iran
<7> Chumpsky is a moron
<0> OcDoc: Ever heard of his defense of Fourrison in France?
<1> personally, i think the best solution is just to drop a bunker buster on the facility and call it a day
<0> OcDoc: Apparently not. Okay, here's the case.
<5> Herzen "intellectually dishonest" is a Sean Hannity term. I bet he uses those words every three lines he speeks :)
<5> lol
<3> CometBaby; how is that rhetoric? is that not who whole life plans appeal to? all im saying is that the simplicity appeals to older healthy couples not that it is a better plan for them
<1> and if they get bent out of shape about it, they can come over here and **** with us directly
<9> Armon: he made that up because 1) it sounds good; and 2) it's what motivates some people in the US, so they could fool themselves into thinking it might be true
<10> CometBaby, in this case it fits
<0> OcDoc: He made up the Fourrison case?
<0> OcDoc: Or are you talking about something else'
<7> Theres a famous definition in the Gospels of the hypocrite, and the hypocrite is the person who refuses to apply to himself the standards he applies to others. By that standard, the entire commentary and discussion of the so-called War on Terror is pure hypocrisy, virtually without exception. Can anybody understand that? No, they cant understand it.
<7> Noam Chomsky, Power and Terror, 2003
<4> yawn, I am sleepy and do not want to go to work
<0> OcDoc: The Fourrison case happens to be a well documented and undisputed fact.
<9> ARmon: I was referring to your quotation about Iran
<7> Noam Chomsky is a hypocrite by his own definition
<3> CometBaby: im not pitchin im just explaining what reality reflects
<0> OcDoc: Ah, okay, screw Iran, lemme tell you about that Fourrison case.
<5> canibud .. whole life has to be SOLD to people. They have to be told only what you want them to know about it. Under no circumstances can you tell them the truth about what you are selling them, or they wouldn't buyit.
<11> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faurisson_Affair
<11> screw Chomsky
<0> OcDoc: Just in defense of Chomsky.
<1> the only things i have supported bush on is the wars in iraq and afganistan and his tax cuts
<0> OcDoc: This French ***hole, Fourrison, wrote a book about the holocaust, denying that it ever happened.
<1> other than that, hes failed miserably
<1> bush remains the most liberal president ive ever voted for
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