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Comments:
<0> Lupine-- The Commission that approved the Port deal is obviously not doing its job
<1> FT: china recently bought a hitech machinery to produce luxury cars to compete with bmw, mercedes, etc. They are supposed to start production by year 2008.
<2> that may cyhange
<2> uae were/are small
<3> if taliban take hold in iraq i would say iran would be next
<2> they were going along w/ the region
<0> unless there's been a complete transformation, I have real concerns.
<4> same here
<5> Chinese cars will probably make Kias look like paragons of quality.
<4> Bush kinda looked foolish coming out so quickly to say he would veto any attempt when he only found out about it recently
<6> even if you hate rush, he's laying out all the facts on the UAE/ports deal
<7> Well Iran has apparently made some deal I dont know how solid it is with Russia to allow them to do the reproccessing but, We would have to let un inspectors back in.
<6> really well
<8> FreeTrade, what about the ties with bin laden?
<8> and the taliban?
<9> Abydos313: why shouldn't Bush rush toward a veto to retain executive power?
<7> Bud, only an idiot hates Rush.
<7> They may disagree with him on issues
<10> hahaha
<7> They may agree with him on issues.
<4> Thargor he should take the time to investigate first
<7> Or they probably are split like most people
<1> Muslim world is in tatters and they desperately need reform. It mostly has to come within but the western governments can help by reducing support of the dictatorial regimes.
<9> Abydos313: are you at all familiar w/how CFIUS operates?
<7> even a brokenclock is right twice a day.
<11> AAAman: yes.. "obivously" even thou you are completely ignorant of what the actual content of their review was.. Xenophobia Uber Alles!
<7> Ive never really listened to Rush more than maybe 5 times or so.
<0> a backlash on conservative talk radio
<4> Thargor honestly no, but with over 1500 deals and they only veto'd one tells me they aren't doing their job
<10> you should listen more
<0> Lupine -- This Commission has only rejected 1 arrangement out of almost 1500
<6> FreeTrade: todays shoiw is worth a listen
<2> quite a back lash you have AAAman
<1> energy futures down today
<0> Lupine -- plays the race card
<7> When I heard him he made pretty much sense he did do a lot of satire about radical left liberals, which was funny but also why a lot of leftists hate him, They wouldnt even listen to him about serious issues that he debates.
<9> Abydos313: so you don't know how they operate, yet you're sure that they're not operating properly. You realize how silly that sounds, right?
<11> AAAMan: yes, OBIVOUS evidence they are not doing their job.. *rolls eyes*
<3> tampa cop killed by illegal alien in hit and run. and ya wanna give them drivers licences
<10> FreeTrade: Rush was for this UAE deal basically from day one
<7> They probably agree with some issues, like 2 of the 5 times I listened to Limbaugh in my life, once he was talking about how people with no money should get free health care or basically socialist health care but people with money middle cl*** and rich peopel should not, And i agree with him on that.
<10> he said he had no opinion but he got a lot of people to consider the facts...just by listing them on air
<4> silly i don't think so, it's just an oppinion from activities going on. maybe they do vet things, but when we are at war and a COUNTRY,,not company doesn't even recognize the current gov is unexcuseable
<11> sting: on teh flip side.. a cop who illegally busted into a man's home, and was shot by the home owner defending the life of his family.. was aquited of attempted murder charges
<7> Another time he was discussing the value of Immigrants to this nation for a good hour or two based on a book he had read on immigration and the USA.
<9> Abydos313: but you have no education regarding your opinion. You're simply making an opinion based on ***umption, with no regard for what may actually be going on.
<4> Thargor yep, same thing 90% of voters do
<7> These are topic that a lot of people would agree with, and the pro immigration stance leftists might agree with.
<1> before this port issue surfaced, most americans had never heard of UAE
<12> man
<9> Abydos313: so that makes it okay for you or them to do it? Here: http://www.treas.gov/offices/international-affairs/exon-florio/
<12> flooding concerns in CA again
<10> FreeTrade: Leftist don't agree with Rush because he can outdebate them all
<7> Salx, I have and have mentioned them over 100 times on this channel before this issue arose.
<10> to be frank
<4> i don't know if it's ok in your eyes, but it is what it is
<7> What I want to know is why didnt the congress jump on it 4 months ago when it was published in the financial papers ?
<3> loco heya
<7> They wait until its been approved and then they jump on it ?
<9> Abydos313: that's the committee page of the group that approves these sales. In particular, note the only legal justifications the President has for vetoing their recommendations. Not only was this UAE deal done by the book, but it appears that it was done as it needed to be.
<1> FT: well, you are well educated on ME issues, im speaking of most americans
<12> think we talked about the UEA when we were talking about the Taliban and nations that recognized them
<12> yo STingray
<7> Why didnt they jump on it in the last 4 months when it was public knowlege.
<7> ??
<6> FreeTrade right, Bloomberg was the one that broke the UAE ports deal, back in what.. October?
<10> FreeTrade: Congress waited so they can make a political move for the elections
<7> salx, I thank you for the compliment.
<4> then maybe things need to be changed.
<0> Gov Kean, GOP NJ, 9.11 Commission, warned against UAE
<7> Bud, November I think
<7> but either october or november it was public domain
<0> A word of caution
<4> bush doesn't listen to 911 commission
<9> Abydos313: oh geez
<7> What ?
<3> dems dont want to hear about abel danger
<3> why
<0> If Bush says jump, some jump twice off the bridge
<10> haha
<1> FT: you should visit Dubai, you'll fall in love with the city. Its like an american dream imho.
<7> Have you read the 911 commission report ? Thier narrative on what went down and some of the reasons is very good.
<4> they listed tons of things to be changed and he ignores them becuase he want cheap labor with illegals
<7> their solutions are not all good.
<7> Some of them we saw during Katrina.
<3> hillary pulled up her dress and people went blind
<7> Another layer or more of Bureacracy is dubious to say the least.
<1> STINGRAY: thanks for that description, I will have trouble sleeping tonight
<4> how can you trust Bush when he won't lock down borders and now he suspect on ports
<10> Bud: Hello?
<12> haha who needs to go to church, now you can get podcasts of your church's sermons
<13> hey i need advice
<3> salx hahahahaha
<7> One shouldnt take the 911 commission as gospel, they should listen to reccomendations and then implement whats intelligent and not whats counter productive.
<13> my roommate and i are staunch republicans (and evangelical christians)
<13> we were bush cheney volunteers in 2004
<3> ya
<13> my roommate was a team leader
<3> cool
<13> anyway, my father is coming to visit!
<13> for two weeks!
<10> FreeTrade: Hello?
<7> Ithink what will come out of this is Dubai Ports will pay for a lot of the security measures congress keeps whining about not being in place at docks.
<3> and
<13> and when he found out i was a bush cheney volunteer he threatened to disown me
<7> That will make them acceptable to congress
<10> hm
<7> and the deal will go on.
<13> hes one of those.......how can you vote for this guy hes bad bla bla bla
<3> peace you have a mind of your own?
<13> my roomie and i are heavily political, listen to rush limbaugh, etc
<13> well my question is
<13> how do i avoid all out war
<13> :)
<3> Peace do you let your dad run your life?
<7> Also Congress will get a briefing those with security clearance on what the UAE does for the USA in the war on terrorism which is very substantial, they also are supported us in Iraq
<2> kick his ***
<13> are you kidding
<13> i just want to avoid a lot of fighting
<13> good idea espectro :)
<13> maybe i can sway him to the right
<13> hmmmmmmmm
<13> any ideas on how to do that
<10> yeesh
<2> but wtf does disown mean?
<7> Its a buisness deal to them, they could spend thier money in the UK or give they money to sweden or some other country and that country would reap the benefits of foreign investment.
<1> US badly needs UAE if it goes to war with Iran.
<2> evidently he's heavily political
<7> salx, Or any where in the middle east
<7> I have a feeling when we are finishes in Iraq they wont like us using their nation for a forward base for military operations, which the UAE is allowing us to do now.
<13> well he threatened not to talk to me
<10> any talk against the UAE should be modded hehe
<1> UAE is a highly strategic area of the middle east. Its like the gateway to the gulf.
<2> send him limbaugh tapes
<13> if he says he hates bush maybe the dog will bite him :)
<10> Espectro: Good idea
<13> oh thats right i have to call limbaugh because i havent been getting my limbaugh letter
<7> Well debate it to high heaven, but at least learn some facts, As much as I did know about the UAE I learned a lot more in the last week or so
<7> I didnt undertand the ports at all.
<10> UAE=FRIEND
<7> I found out the US Owns all its major ports, so they arent buying the port.
<7> they are buying the profits from the port operations.
<4> FreeTrade so in this last week how much info did you find to make you not want the deal?
<7> And there was no American company that bid on it.
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