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<0> well we are not apes no from apes
<1> FreeTrade .. yep .. that was my first reaction :)
<2> gopp, why are you talking to me anyway?
<0> We are hominoids. is that the right term
<3> FT: What do you mean ?
<4> hominids
<0> I mean we evovled seperately from apes
<2> gopp, you appear to be more interested in trolling and making personal remarks than in discussing this
<0> 100s of 1000s of years ago
<5> we ARE apes
<6> hominids is one term for it, yes
<4> Katey: he's probably trying to come on to you
<0> Thaks Gloria
<7> whatever FT says im in perfect agreement with even if hes wrong
<8> hominids how about just "horny" ?
<9> Katey- yepe you did wasn't you said it was about domanice, that is that men want to be the domaint person in the ***ual act
<4> Katey: and making a mess of it
<0> We may act like apes, we are not apes
<7> gotta good head on his shoulders
<2> gopp, er..no
<3> pastime: How come ? Even FT can be wrong from time to time
<2> gopp, you misinterpreted what I said
<0> we have a record which goes back to early man which is very old which doesnt include apes
<10> The vulcan Pom Farr is a burning desire to sink your manmeat into... whoops.. wrong channel
<7> hes driving let him drive
<6> I think the ancestors we share with apes weren't today's apes
<4> Katey: I like the playful aspects of *** too
<7> im not a back seat driver
<2> OcDoc, well, I think most people do
<0> apes probably went on a parrelel path maybe a million years ago, I dont know the times, I just know the more general facts.
<4> but I've never had close relationships with any women who felt the same
<7> i learn than calcuate
<3> 98% of human DNA is similar to a chimps'
<7> where i went wrong...but i always adapt to it
<0> We came from the lines of hominids, homo erectus homo sapien and all the others we have identified.
<0> brb
<6> when the lines branched, the ones who stayed in the forest went on to become what we know as apes, monkeys, etc, while the ones who left the forest for the savannah and imitated carnivorous species became humans
<9> Katey- I dissagree it more about family or affection that is some type of love, and less of dominance
<4> Katey: no doubt personal experience colours my opinions, but I think much of the talk in here is either just talk, or women who did what they THOUGHT men would like in order to get what they wanted
<2> FreeTrade, their was a fairly decent show on Discovery Channel recently about human evolution
<2> My daughter loved it
<2> OcDoc, I don't doubt some of that is true
<4> Katey: I don't mean that in a negative way, just that women seem to let biases creep into everything about their relationships
<9> FreeTrade I heard story of kids when I was in grade school who said they walked in when thier parnets where having ***
<2> OcDoc, and you're right that there are plenty of women who will put on a show of being "an animal" to impress their partner
<8> For those of us in (***ual) relationships, how many of you think of the "perfect" relationship (with someone else)??
<4> probably women's magazines ;-)
<9> Katey- I am not trolling at all
<2> OcDoc, I think many women are conflicted about ***
<0> Katey cool
<4> Katey: I suspect so
<2> OcDoc, I don't know if that's true as much for men or not
<0> Men are conflicted about ***
<4> Katey: it seems unnecessary to me
<0> its not bad to be conflicted about many things
<4> which is a shame
<2> OcDoc, I think most women want a fun *** life
<9> Katey- well when I read it, that what I got sorry if I misread
<0> People who are conflicted is proof they are not sociopaths.
<1> well I never witnessed my parents having *** .. thank gawd. Just the thought is disgusting :)
<0> Sociopahs are never conflicted.
<4> Katey: yeah, but they substitute what they read men like for discussing it directly with their men!
<8> Comet ewwwww
<2> CometBaby, heh. I think that's universal. :)
<10> my brother's church made both he and his fiance accept the fact that there will always be someone better out there, but to embrace the odds that they did as well as they did, before letting them wed
<7> mmmm
<0> Comet indeed.
<7> good stuf ft
<4> Free: that's true
<4> Free: I have a thin veneer of civilization overlying my animal side
<0> OcDoc, me too
<0> ;)
<3> Look at american women's magazines..All they seem to do is encourage women to fornicate at will..how to get multiple orgasms..How to get 2 men to sleep with you at the same time..How to **** ****..etc..Nothing anymore about love, loyalty and romance
<7> animal will kill ya
<4> nharris: reasonable
<7> quicker
<7> were all terminal
<0> yeah I think thats a good point right there, what is civilization, what is society ? What are societal norsm and why do they become such ?
<10> yep.. people who don't think they've found UTOPIA with their spouse are more likely to stay married
<11> What do you guys think about this thesis state for this paper I'm writing:
<2> A friend of mine was making me laugh like crazy the other day, talking about her parents
<11> Based on the realism mode, Iran should acquire nuclear arms capabilities as soon as possible because it will help ensure their security, it will increase their relative negotiating position with other governments, and because they have the economic and strategic ability to do so without suffering significant losses.
<0> Well, Thats doesnt make it right or wrong, but as a social animal we have a need to live with rules.
<11> mode = model
<2> Her father traveled a lot, so he was away from home for long stretches
<0> except me, I am NEO, I am the ONE
<0> But seriouly rules are designed to protect the klan
<0> to survive
<4> deku: sounds reasonable to me
<11> thx
<0> so we can eat and breed and grow larger in numbers.
<9> Katey- I don't mean to troll you or seem to be negative but I just dissagree
<2> When he came home, he'd dole out whatever punishments (to the four kids) that had been waiting for his return, then he and her mother would retreat to the bedroom and not come out for at least 24 hours. :)
<12> FreeTrade: that's darwinian nihilism if it means that rules are not absolute.
<12> (ever)
<6> OcDoc: that's ***uming that Iran acquiring nuclear arms isn't equivalent to painting a giant target on itself
<0> Deku, I dont know if you consider a major bombing campaign and command action a loss
<0> or significant loss
<4> deku: now all they need is a source of uranium and plutonium within their own boundaries and they're all set
<3> deku: Do you think Iran is trying to stall UN sanctions by pretending to be interested in Russia's proposal ?
<2> gopp, I don't think you even know what I was talking about
<2> gopp, so why not just drop it
<7> casualties of war
<7> are acceptable
<0> Micheal, Call it by whatever philiosophical name you wish.
<7> if means are achieved
<6> what's darwinian nihilism?
<0> I am influenced by Ardrey Roberts, David Hume, And plenty of others.
<6> maybe I should just look it up
<2> She said when they were teenagers, she and her sisters would approach the closed bedroom door and ask if they could have some money for the weekend, and their dad would just slide the money under the door
<2> :P
<6> you mean Robert Ardrey, FreeTrade
<0> But ifyou know these two you can pretty much see where I am coming from
<6> African Genesis, Territorial Imperative, Social Contract, Hunting Hypothesis!
<0> Gloria, Yes, What i would do without you I dont know.
<0> yes
<13> OcDOc, I've heard Iran has huge amounts of nuclear fuel on its own land
<0> I read all those several times except the last one
<12> gloriae: it's where rules exist because of chance and show nothing fundamental, lasting, meaningful.
<13> in the form of ore
<4> gloriae: nothing means anything, with respect to survival of the fittest
<2> I thought it was funny that this otherwise pretty traditional couple, with kids, were so matter of fact about their need for "alone time"
<0> African Genesis was brilliant
<3> How is a european/african bird flu likely to impact the stock market
<6> FreeTrade: it's worth getting and reading, imo (hunting hypothesis)
<7> well u definitely dont have casualties of war when 2 people are on the planet
<3> bird flu epidemic
<7> its live or die
<4> harksaw: then why do they depend on permission from outsiders to go forward with their nuclear program?
<11> I think Iran will eventually acquire nuclear weapons its just a matter of time, experts say a bombing woudl only slow them 5 years
<0> Because it made me see that murder was not alien to our nature, that it was part of our primal nature.
<6> he develops theses further that he developed in earlier works
<13> OcDoc, they don't have enrichment facilities
<6> provides more evidence, support, etc
<0> And also the notion that a nuclear bomb is just the extension of chimps using tools to eat termites.
<2> FreeTrade, that's evident from looking at our close relatives, chimps
<11> And because Iran is such an important oil producer, I don't see much possiblity of invasions or large-scale bombing
<4> deku: in five years then they could get another bombing
<14> Lost is getting good now
<11> invasions = sanctions
<2> Herzen, where are you now?
<0> The problem is that you have to see man as an animal at least pretend to see him as such when you look at his behavior, suddenly things become a lot more clea.
<14> "How long do you think it would take to train an army"
<0> cclear
<14> Just finished episode 11
<3> Israeli intelligence is saying that Iran will build a nuclear bomb within THIS year
<4> harksaw: then they aint' a-gonna get nuclear weapons, now .... are they?
<2> Herzen, ah, you're almost caught up
<2> Herzen, keep going
<6> MichaelC: ok, I guess I didn't like seeing 'darwinian' coupled with 'nihilism' (I don't like seeing it grouped with feminism and homo***uality either ;P)
<2> Herzen, you'll like the next couple of episodes
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