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<0> laters ppls
<1> Katey so the implied thought is, we need to ban them everywhere, got it.
<2> bmc: It was DOCUMENTED by Cerf, and standardized from the seminal work of a group of grad students.
<3> Katey: i disagree. they have been very effective. They have achieved their goal: the disarmament of lawful citizens.
<4> some guy who had an earlier appt than gates
<5> 1974 December: A 3-way handshake is adopted for TCP. Cerf, Yogen Dalal, and Carl Sunshine write RFC 675, the first complete specification of TCP.
<6> DarthBurg, maybe that's your implied thought
<6> DarthBurg, I was simply stating the facts of the situation
<1> naw, I actually think the second amendment is in the constitution
<4> facts?!!!
<4> damn you!
<7> Condi RIce's statement there
<3> NYC/Chicago/DC/etc all prove the laws are very effective in achieving their goals: the disarmament of the lawful citziens.
<7> is why America is what it is
<5> 1973 "A Partial Specification of an International Transmission Protocol" is written by Vint Cerf. This paper first makes a reference to TCP. Fragmentation and re***embly of messages, formerly done by node computers on the network, become the responsibility of host computers.
<1> Facts are troubling things. Katey, and you are right, gun laws are useless.
<5> Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn write "A Protocol for Packet Network Interconnection", which is later published in 1974. This is the most detailed TCP outline to this point, and precursor to the first official specification.
<8> Back phone call, I forgot where the hell I was.
<3> Darth: IMHO, anyone who does not actively support the Second Amendment should be denied any other right.
<9> Lupine, i don't understand how anyone can swear an oath to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic and simultaneously be a gun grabber
<8> Anyway doesnt matte.
<3> FEMA: yep
<1> Lupine| I agree.
<4> DarthBurg is to others' words what dough is to pretzels
<1> Linus- hahahaha
<4> :)
<2> bmc: You are refractory. You won't even look at the RFC that has definitive information from a first-person narrative. Instead you quote some retrospective timeline. This is a waste of effort. You get the last word, I am through.
<8> I dont why anyone is discussing Gore other than hes a freaking fanatic about the enviroment picking the very worst case scenario whic is sort of like doing a movie on an asteroid hitting us.
<10> SIDON, Lebanon Security officials said a car bomb Friday killed a leader of Palestinian Islamic Jihad an Iran-backed militant group that persisted in attacking Israel while other major factions adhered to a cease-fire.
<2> Anyone else that really wants to know where the Internet came from, read that RFC, it is a great story.
<5> http://www.rfc-editor.org/history.html
<1> Katey trots the standard excuse for the failure of the DC gun ban, embellishes it with a slam at all states for not banning guns, and its my fault for reading her words. got it.
<4> poor syntax but hastily put together
<10> "This morning the Israeli Mossad detonated an explosive charge. ... This is the second time Mahmoud is targeted, and I believe it comes in the framework of Israeli escalation against the Palestinian people, particularly Islamic Jihad," Rifai told The ***ociated Press.
<10> Car Bomb Kills Palestinian Islamic Jihad Leader in Lebanon
<8> Niether make any ****ing sens but Berkeleys 9th grade science cl*** will be forced to watch the movie next year, thankfully my daughter will be in 10th, where they get into real science and chemisty anr biology
<10> man the israelis are good
<4> DarthBurg, does all that reading between the lines strain your eyes? does it require trifocals? ;)
<1> Linus- yes, its actually quite easy, and boy, does it piss off Donkeys.
<4> e=mc2 has many interpretations!
<1> it does?
<1> maybe in Donkey land
<4> noone here is seeking psychoanalysis
<4> except maybe gopp
<4> of course it doesnt
<9> uncooperative jack***es
<8> Posit, they are excellent ***asins. Which I sometimes am concerned about, but I dont have any sympathy for a leader of Islamic Jihad.
<4> glad to see we agree on that at least!
<1> lol
<3> The only way to discourage the gun culture is to remove the guns from the hands and shoulders of people who are not in the law enforcement business.
<3> --- New York Times
<1> reality won't budge man!
<4> here on Gilligans Islam!
<5> some links on http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/chris/nph/ARPANET/ScottR/arpanet/index.htm also
<10> freetrade - their intelligence services are the best
<8> Linus, Ive been through psychoanalysis its a waste of time except for the barely mentally ill, the developmentally ill who need a parent to help them grow up or a surrogate.
<10> mossad is probably the best human intelligence agency in the world
<3> The goal is an ultimate ban on all guns, but we also have to take step at a time and go for limited access first.
<3> --- Chicago Tribune, November 7, 1993
<4> Fr33Trade, of course its a waste of time for most people
<4> because the practitioners don't have a magic key
<8> Sure psychoanalytic theory gives you much more insight into yourself but at what price ? And the problem is it doesnt cure the Neurosis you went to cure.
<9> Lupine, all dictators, tyrants and m*** murderers will agree that Gun control works!
<3> There is no reason for anyone in this country, for anyone except a police officer or a military person, to buy, to own, to have, to use, a handgun. The only way to control handgun use in this country is to prohibit the guns. And the only way to do that is to change the Constitution.
<3> --- Michael Gartner, former NBC News President
<4> fr33, I'm not sure id call it insight as much as guided thought
<4> since the analyst sets the parameters
<1> Lupine| NO BIAS HERE
<11> -wtf
<11> no bias
<11> year right
<11> they are blaming bush for the shooting
<1> go back to sleep gopp
<3> We are inclined to think that every firearm in the hands of anyone who is not a law enforcement officer constitutes an incitement to violence. Let's come to our senses before the whole country starts shooting itself up on all its Main Streets in a delirious kind of High Noon.
<3> --- Washington Post
<8> Posit, No there human intelligence is very good and thier lack of restraint gives them a reputation of being brutal and insensitive to even their allies, The US has the best signal intelligence in the world and a lousy human intelligence and a mediocre analytical branch and a tame reputation world wide.
<11> insight = guided thought
<4> oh we open Lupine| can o worms
<4> i hate thatb flavor!
<1> its Donkey worms!
<8> People dont fear the CIA that much but you mention Mossad is after them it strickes fear into their hearts.
<1> Donkey knows best!
<4> it certainly something jack*** like
<4> its
<1> roger roger
<4> damn, I'm devolving into gopp
<10> freetrade - they have to be like that to survive
<3> FT: yea.. CIA doesn't have a good tract record on ***asination.. the Mossad however..
<9> Lupine, thats pure kafka. when guns are in the hands of responsible law abiding citizens crime decreases. taking guns away from people only makes everyone more vulnerable
<4> tract?
<4> urinary?
<12> Linus- oh wow it not jolly
<8> Linus, it isng guided thought and there are no paeameters thats the whole point.
<11> bush killed jerferson
<10> freetrade - if mexico and canada were our enemies and constantly attacking us, im sure our intel agencies would be better
<11> the media is saying
<4> har
<11> I bet
<1> the Mossad did 911
<4> you bet?
<9> but i'm just stating the obvious
<8> You spend money week after week free ***ociating, saying anything that comes to your mind and the therapist does nothing but listen.
<3> FEMA: which is what they WANT. you see, they want the c itizens to be weak and fully dependant upon government
<8> Thee are no limits no parameters.
<4> Fr33Trade, depends on the training of the therapist
<8> Except the two I mentioned.
<9> yeah, they want us controllable
<3> As you probably know by now, Time's editors, in the April 13 issue, took a strong position in support of an outright ban on handguns for private use.
<3> --- Time Magazine, Letter to NRA
<4> rogerian therapists allow free exploration
<8> I said pscyhoanalytic psychology which is a Branch of Psychology
<8> its a sect if you will
<1> ahh, like the false religion of enviromentalism
<4> cognitive behavioralists focus on behaviors and thought processes leading to such
<8> There are all kinds of sects but what I defined = psychoanalytic therapy
<6> gun bans are another overly simplistic approach to complex problems
<8> Its also known as freudian and to some extent Jungian
<5> Yaakov the author is one of the people mentioned in those timelines, as well as other people that co-created the specifications and protocols
<4> fr33, the terms aren't very strict these days
<6> People like simple answers, or like to believe that they exist, but I think they rarely do
<2> bmc: This is surprising?
<4> freudian is very much guided!
<8> There is also behavior therpay, congitive therapy, role playing, and a 1000 other sub sets of pcyhology.
<4> everything is tied back to ***uality
<8> Linus you know better on this too huh ?
<1> Katey, depends, lots of things in life are pretty simple. to really **** things up, that takes government
<8> I spent 7 years on a couch.
<7> Iraq supports Iran's right to pursue nuclear research, its new foreign minister said today, taking a position at odds with that of the Bush administration.
<7> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/26/world/middleeast/26cnd-iraq.html?hp&ex=1148702400&en=242c9b133f9a8e5e&ei=5094&partner=homepage
<8> How many did you spend ?
<2> bmc: The point it, Cerf and friends joined in after the success of the initial project.
<9> it doesn't matter tho. we will soon have repeating heavy caliber slug throwers that will use compressed air. those are just as deadly and are not cl***ified as firearms.
<7> wheeeeeeeee this just got interesting.
<4> with one analyst
<11> all staff should remain in thier office
<5> Cerf and Postel write IEN 21
<7> According to news service accounts, Mr. Zebari said that Iraq does not want "any of our neighbors to have weapons of m*** destruction."
<8> And it was my major in college until I dropped out, and I have had more than one psychiatrist.
<6> gun violence in our cities will not be resolved by one simple approach, regardless of which side of gun law, incarceration, social services, or drug laws you happen to fall on.
<11> Linus- balir is on cspan
<4> I'm talking in theoretical terms based on education and training of the analyst
<5> Yaakov also thats August 1987
<8> Ihave had let me think.
<10> whats going on in the capitol building?
<8> 6 I think.
<1> Life's simple things include Sleeping, eating and being able to defend yourself, Donkeys believe the GOV should provide sleeping quarters and food, but do not think you should be able to defend yourself.
<10> i hear they have a firing range in the capitol building
<3> katey: which makes it all the more important that a private citizen has the legal means to defend his family from said violence.
<5> yea we should read that opposed to the documents that were written at the original time
<5> yea that would be a smart thing to do
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