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<0> sintient, oh comeon, a Donkey does not take care of its children, thats what the GOV is for, besides, its a choice, and it can be aborted, remember?
<1> I was talking to some australians and they said that the minimum wage for adults over 21 was 11 bucks.
<2> blizzil: you can talk about it in a less *inflammatory* manner
<3> Timur, I'll tell you what. I sense your having a bad hair day and I'm going to leave you alone :)
<4> praxid : your *** is destroying Iraq with your ***inine comments!!!!
<5> no we need to have it analyzed
<5> and brodcasted
<5> that **** cant be tolerated
<6> Republicans have done a terrible job with foreign policy.
<1> Where did all the liberals come from then?
<7> Lets all be liberals like those in California, we can all have 50 year old homes in bad repair for a measly $800k and $5k a year in property tax.
<0> why don;t we make minimum wage 50 bucks
<8> Herz: well, in some ways. But they don't seem to be doing a very good job at addressing things; not that the Dems are/would either, but at least they have their hearts in the right place, and on the issue I mentioned, among others.
<2> blizzil: Ture.
<2> True*
<7> The American dream I tell ya!
<4> FedUp : can you do better ?
<8> Two: I'm actually having a really good hair day.. :)
<1> But why are not into raising the standard of living?
<3> sintient, liberals as they are today, come from a soft, mushy society. When times are tough, there are not as many liberals.
<6> ThomasWT Never tried it, but I'd like to think so.
<9> nuke em
<1> Hmm tought times now.
<0> really?
<3> When you have a successful society, people get soft. ergo, we get liberals, people who are soft and squishy and dream alot
<0> tough time for credit card co's, people are paying off their debt in this ****ty economy.
<0> hahahahah
<1> High gas, people at war, people are not pleased with americans.
<0> and piss on Crucifix's and call it art.
<5> The thing is publius
<1> It isn't the easiest possible times.
<3> sintient, raising the standard of living ? We have about the highest now, except for a very few countries with much smaller populations.
<5> that kinda ****
<7> sintient, what people?
<10> TT that sounds like socialist paradise...
<5> was happening ALL the time
<5> these guys just got caught
<10> but taxation has to be at 110%
<0> National Foreign policy is not a populsrity contest, and guess who will be the first party to block Oil drilling in alaska?
<1> Like most of the countries not contributing to the action in iraq.
<3> sintient, also, the unemployment figures are way down too
<10> Darthburg...who has more money?
<1> They see the US using hegemony and unilateral decision.s
<6> I love all the trash talk about "Donkeys" and "liberals" in here. It's so entertaining. Not informative, mind you, but entertaining.
<11> Timur, I tend to be more republican on domestic matters
<2> blizzil: I think you may have felt it was wide spread majority, but it was very unlikely for the majoirty of the Marine coprs
<2> corps
<0> CryArvach naw, they will stop it for the "Children" well, the ones they did not abort.
<12> gopp, have you seen the cuba movie?
<3> FedUP, what do you expect when you ask a liberal the simplest questions and they cant answer anything. Such as "why are you a liberal". Most cant even answer THAT.
<10> donkeys are only have the problem.....elephants are the other half
<3> hehehe
<12> FedUp, it may not be informative, but it is *informed*
<6> Twobar Yeah, and they can't come up with your simple definition of "leftism", either.
<10> Twobar...they answer ...bushdidit!
<3> FedUp, that is correct. They can't.
<0> Questions lead to answers, answers lead to problem solving, and Donkeys can not have that, no one would vote for them after they "Fixed" everything
<12> FedUp, you mean simple enough that even a liberal could understand??
<10> Docs seized in Jeffersons office seald for 45 days...
<8> Herz: I am on some.. but I think the approach of both parties isn't sufficient to the issues, often
<8> of either one, rather
<10> There must be some interesting docs....
<13> will you stop pretending that abortion rates are even remotely significant? population is still growing without any evidence of any significant change due to abortions. Besides, if people who support abortions were aborting all of their children, how can people who want to ban abortion are still in the minority?
<3> If somebody asks me anything about why I think this or that about politics, I can EASILY anwer it. yet, no liberal seems able to answer such things.
<11> Timur, I don't generally buy into all the "Democrats have no solutions" horsecrap, they have them i just don't agree with a lot of them, and you have to admit some of the bigwigs in the Democrat party make them look ****ty as hell
<0> well, right wing policies actually work, when they are tried.
<10> maybe its what Sandy Burger stole
<0> what good idea do DOnkeys have?
<8> Herz: and so do a hell of a lot of Republicans.. :)
<10> Darth...rightwing is a bit extremist
<0> what solutions do Donkeys offer?
<3> Herzen, democrats really have no solutions. They may have a very few, but I sure havent heard them
<8> that's the frustration with the whole (limited) dynamic
<6> Twobar Your question is too vague, and you'd never accept an honest answer anyway.
<13> solutions to what?
<11> suna, eh my opposition to abortion isn't based on population growth
<10> and Herzen...the GOp in the US is the lesser evil...
<11> its based on "killing babies is wrong"
<14> FedUp -- do you have an honest answer?
<10> not the better party
<0> CryArvach no, its not extreme at all, especially when we are lost in the left hand lane, and any amount of Left wing stupidity is tolerated.
<1> Wasn't the current immigration bill democrat written?
<3> FedUp, I will accept any answer, if I could get one.
<11> CryArvach, the other rightwing parties go all ****ty on social issues
<11> CryArvach, like Libertarians, they are okay economically, but they go all ****ty on like abortion etc
<10> Leftwing is extremist too
<13> herzen: good for you:) was refering to darth's comments earlier
<11> I want fiscal conservatism and hangin people for baby slaying!
<1> Seriously it is pretty lame for you to just hyperbolize about an idealogy without specifically stating anything.
<0> sintient, the current laws on the books Kennedy had a hand in, and you do not get more Donkey than that
<10> when someone says rightwing to me...I think Somoza Pinochet Duvalier
<8> Rightwing is extremist too
<2> <----extremewing!!!
<1> There you go.
<13> actually qualifiying as really being left wing or right wing = extremist bull****. 99% of the people who are called leftists are not extremists, same with the right
<1> You asked for an idea.
<13> ryan98 is an extremist
<8> Pub : yeah, right
<13> for example
<10> Publius <---wingding :)
<1> And well your use of donkey is getting embarr***ing.
<2> Timur: heheh
<2> e
<1> Makes you look repetitive and malicious.
<15> being "extremist" isn't necessarily bad
<1> Especially when you answer your own question a few seconds later.
<6> Twobar OK, fine: I'm a liberal because I believe that, in a country as rich as ours, we should be using the resources of our government to help the poor rather than shelter the rich, to protect the planet rather than a corporation's right to spoil it, to promote tolerance rather than rigid judgmental notions of "family values." That's my honest answer. You certainly don't have to agree.
<0> so, what you are saying is, it is perfectly acceptable to swallow any and all Left WIng stupidity, but we can not dare to dip to the right at all, because its to extreme.
<10> from now on...Donkey will be said as ee-aww
<11> Timur, I worked til 1030 and I gotta be at work at 7 am tomorrow
<11> Timur, ****ty as hell shifting
<1> You said they have no ideas?
<12> suna socialism can be considered to be extremist... as can the 21-day abort policy on newborns
<1> Then you say their ideas shouldn't be taken without debate.
<10> that ee-aww Jefferson stashed his bribe in the freezer
<1> Fine good point.
<0> what DOnkey is tolerant?
<11> Democrats have some ideas, just like I said before, I don't agree with them
<8> Herz: are you busting your *** for the money, for the satisfaction of having both physical as well as mental work, or what
<1> Darth did you get my info on fema being given full authority/
<0> name a tolerant donkey.
<8> me
<0> show me donkey tolerance.
<11> Timur, The latter, I have lots of money
<10> Herzen...the dems in the US are out of ideas...
<1> I don't want to play your stupid donkey game.
<0> sintient, no, I did not
<10> but the GOP is only slightly ahead
<8> except for idiotic ***holes who are redundantly stupid. :)
<13> hawksaw: no, it's not necesarily bad. Being extreme against any justification of any form of genocide....that's extreme, is it wrong? good luck convining me of it
<1> I will bot be dragged into your idiotic name calling.
<3> FedUp, thanks, that is a fine answer. I agree in general with these things, however I dont want the government stepping in and forcing me to accept this or that, or to tax me more than they are now, to pay for something, without evaluating the 2 to 3 trillion they spend now.
<1> haha
<8> HerZ: ah, fair enough
<1> ok hold up.
<11> An example of a Democrat/Left/Liberal idea is that "less guns on the street, will cause a drop in the crime rate", so they think of ways to get less guns on the street, and create programs like the gun destruction program, the brady stuff, and so on and so forth
<2> Timur: nonsense
<11> I disagree with that idea, but its an idea none the less
<8> Pub: what is? :)
<2> hehe
<11> I think that criminals just sidestep that legislation and get their guns anyways
<0> whats donkey tolerance? going to a judge and getting a law rammed down our throats cuz they can't p*** it by democratic measures?
<11> and it takes the weapon out of the hands of the lawful owner and leaves them defenseless
<10> The Brady Bill is an OBSCENITY!!!
<15> democrats don't really seem to care about gun control any more
<0> thats sure tolerant of other people's ideas.
<8> huh?
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