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<0> Hang on let me get the real definition for you, It may make me partially wrong or else it will educate the channel
<1> prostitution should be legal
<2> I would think the pain would be enough to not want to do that
<3> The difference is what some people call "excessive"
<4> I know lots of people that love to get plowed in the bum
<3> some people hate others having fun
<4> Damn I know girls that like DP action
<1> it doesnt harm society if the person doesnt go around spreading disease, i mean if it were an actual business, with investors and what not
<1> on a payroll
<4> is that hedonisitc?
<3> it's basically avarice
<1> it would be a hell of alot cleaner
<5> aaronix needs to be educated
<5> he has no idea where this conversation is at
<6> "Hedonism" simply means a pursuit of or devotion to pleasure. It need not mean grotesque acts of pleasure-seeking, though it does include that.
<4> yah I need to be educated
<0> There are a lot of definitions so noone here is wrong because they are all over the map
<7> bmc, a lot of *** is already like prostitution to me anyway.
<8> Pickle: hedonism sounds nice.
<0> here is something close to my definiton
<3> Exactly FreeMrkts
<0> the belief that pleasure is the principle good, and should be the highest aim of the individual and society.
<7> There's very little difference to me from someone who takes a girl out for $200 dinner and expects *** afterwards and someone who gets a call girl.
<8> P_O: heh craigslist had a listing for a roommate, free rent in exchange for ***.
<6> FreeMrkts: That's the philosophical definition, yes.
<3> FreeMrkts: sounds right
<0> Hedonism (Greek: hedone "pleasure" + ism) describes any way of thinking that gives pleasure a central role. Hedonism can be generally summed up as "Pleasure is the highest good", or in an ethical formulation, "whatever causes pleasure is right."
<4> rond: Im just saying, hedoism is dif for each person
<8> P_O: sounds like an exchange of services to me.
<2> I thought browns University was a female only school
<3> I think displeasure should be government's goal and it's working!
<4> JanetB: Most of the girls there look like bigfoot
<7> FreeMrkts, it depends what you define as pleasure.
<5> aaronix but none of what you have been describing is banned
<4> liberal hell
<6> http://www.answers.com/hedonism&r=67
<9> I practice sodomistic hedonism
<7> I'm generous cause it makes me feel good.
<5> so why even bring it up as if it is
<7> Most people think generosity is good.
<7> So yeah...
<1> P_O well when you pay for it, its not an expectation, its a demand, or a refund :P
<3> P_O: forced generosity bad
<0> I am not a hedonist, I dont believe that what feels good to me (Or what is sensual) is the highest principle. I beleive love of my children is.
<7> jhicks, I agree.
<9> government generosity is my favourite
<0> Here is a benign definiton:
<10> Technically if you have *** for pleasure rather than for just making babies you are into Hedonism
<0> It means the doctrine that each individual should seek his or her own greatest happiness, or pleasure.
<1> but i dont see a problem with people paying for or selling ***, so long as its not detrimental to 'society'
<0> My happiness is in caring for my children
<9> lets read the kama sutra
<2> I belive that Love of my husband is first, and my children are 2nd .... :)
<0> Though historically the meaning has been closer to my happiness is more important than my childrens or anything else.
<6> The bottom line is that "hedonism" has been made into a dirty word by some particularly puritanical conservatives, which I think is just silly.
<0> Thats the traditional idea of hedonism to the worst degre.
<6> We need to shake off the Victorian-era bull**** already.
<0> the doctrine which holds the standard of the good and morality as whatever gives pleasure per se. This theory substitutes ethical purpose for ethical standard, stating (in essence) the proper value is whatever you happen to value.
<2> I like the victorian era :D
<0> I think we have shaken off most victorianism but we should not go to the other extreme.
<8> Pickle: im still trying to figure out how the children of the 1960s got uptight in the 1980s...
<7> My life is centered around my self, but my self is centered around other people.
<3> Pickle: I think overall, puritanical is more accurate than "conservative"
<6> FreeMrkts: If caring for your kids and spending time with them brings you pleasure, and you actively pursue that pleasure, then technically you're a hedonist.
<5> getting adicted to cocaine, screwing up the sales career you once had that afforded you a great home in a great neighbor...letting your house default as a result...devaluin the neighborhood is an example of the hedonism Herzen is referring to
<3> A lot of people calling themselves "conservatives" are really "puritans"
<5> lets get real
<8> Pickle: the only principle the boomers seemed to keep from their youth into their old age - is their desire to have everything handed to them... ala the AARP's politicsl
<3> They're liberal in advocating change toward their purtianical beliefs
<0> My support for the lifestyle choices of gays for the last 35 years or so shows that I am not a Victorian. But on the other hand Most philosophers would tell you that happiness is not found in the pursuit of pleasure alone, and that it can even cause more pain in life than pleasure.. But thats a spiritual perspective or a philosophical perspective.
<3> The seized the mantle of conservatism without actually being so
<0> But I think the thing we can agree on is that its up to the individual to choose his path
<11> Bekka Valley in Iraq?
<3> FreeMrkts: If only it were so
<11> man, it's about goddamned time something is found on WMD...
<11> it's been, what, three ****ing years?
<3> The is violent intervention on the path
<11> ****ing hell. what's the evidence?
<4> Well, we'll see Tweek
<4> Im curious to know more
<0> Bekka valley is in syria close to Lebanon its where hezbollah is centered, It might even be a part of lebanon, Im not positive.
<0> But its syrian controlled and hizzbollah controeld
<12> tweek, what's been found?
<3> Bekka Valley is where the hash used to come from :(
<3> R.I.P.
<0> If you went to the Becca valley today and were Jewish you would never come out alive..
<7> jhicks, hey, they make hash in northern africa too!
<3> Bekka Valley is Lebanon
<0> Its a center of terrorism
<2> nationwide manhunt for a serial bomber and he has been seen here in Az!!
<11> Tailor: ask whoever set topic
<0> it should be carpet bombed.
<4> But not by us
<3> FreeMrkts: I feel the exact same way about Detroit!
<0> Janet, I wouldnt worry, hes been attacking his old workmates.
<11> I go away for like two days and already big developments are happening
<13> The Becca needs to be carpet bombed for a month
<11> but what's the evidence?
<2> awww ok
<0> Is he trying to kill anyone other than those he is irrationally angry at ?
<3> SweetLeaf: If it'll bring back the hash I'm all for it
<0> This is a guy who popped
<2> oh my gosh, I have seen that man, they just put his pic on tv
<13> heh
<2> and I know I have seen him
<10> hes not trying to kill
<0> By the way a thought just occurred to me, Aldrich Ames was a Hedonist.
<11> JanetB: no you haven't. you're paranoid. go back to your hole
<10> at least yet
<4> Tweek: You got a URL on this Bekka valley ?
<3> SweetLeaf: for all our investments in Afghanistan and still NO HASH
<0> If you dont remember who he was he was a cia double agent who got a lot of american agents killed.
<11> aaronx: I just got in, saw the topic, and was like 'wtf?'
<2> tweet... 1 I do not live in a hole and yes I know I have seen him
<3> stingy bastards
<4> Free : Where is the URL to that topic info?
<3> Crap, broke a string.
<7> JanetB, Bombs'R'Us isn't a good place to hang out, I told you.
<3> bbl
<2> oh well, I can not remember where or when.... so not much I can do anyway
<0> aaron, I dont have one, It was on FOX news apparently related to the transliteration of saddams regimes arrabic writing and a dirth of information yet to be interpreted and corroborated, the same place the story came from about the Russian involvement, I heard the story was also buried in the New York Times
<2> hahah P_O
<10> PORTLAND, Ore., March 25 (UPI) -- Oregon is testing the idea of collecting highway funds through a tax on miles driven, rather than gasoline consumed. <- how stupid.
<7> bud`, totally fakable.
<3> bud`: It's because of all the Californians that invaded Oregon
<7> Oregon ****s anyway.
<11> well, fakability isn't the only real problem
<5> there afraid of revenue going down with more effecient cars
<2> why would the NYT bury it
<0> http://www.nysun.com/
<3> I own five acres I've never seen in Oregon
<3> I think it's under a sand dune
<0> Its related to the lead story on the front page, but its not been put out yet as a fact, its evidence at this point.
<7> jhicks, awesome.
<3> P_O: My aunt gave it to me
<11> FreeMrkts: the page I have up says that the Bush admin won't be releasing the evidence any time soon.
<7> jhicks, you should build an evil fortress of doom to retire to or something.
<0> The uncl***ified report does not ***ess the value of the information or provide details beyond citing two captured Iraqi documents that say the Russians collected information from sources "inside the American Central Command" and that battlefield intelligence was provided to Saddam through the Russian amb***ador in Baghdad.
<3> P_O: That is my current plan
<3> disguised as a sand dune
<7> jhicks, cool.
<7> Will it have sharks with laserbeams on their foreheads?
<3> with a heliport
<0> The same source for this mentioned the WMD story
<11> P_O: fortresses of doom just don't have the same flair now that any target anywhere can be bombarded with an aerial strike
<0> But obviously they wont put that out unless they can prove it, otherwise it wont help the administration to go back and refight the wmd issue...
<3> Elbonia poses an existential threat to humanity!
<7> tweek, eh, you can still make them work for it and build a bunker.
<2> interesting
<0> Besides Bush never considered WMD as the reason for war., and he let it be know it was not the reason.
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