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<0> i bet more die from salmanila poisoning each week than from mad cow
<1> Lupine: the cause is easy to stop
<2> Lupine: you'd be correct.
<1> Lupine: you simply don't feed animal parts to cows
<3> Don't feed cows to cows
<3> that's right
<1> exactly
<0> OcDoc: oh, I agree with taking precautions to prevent it. No arguement there.
<4> OcDoc, Mad Cow is highly unlikely to infect humans in the USA with so few cases
<3> GREEED
<1> so it's a simple regulation, easy to enforce with huge benefit
<0> But I just think the talk of it being a public health problem is overhyped
<1> for publich health
<4> Bird flu is a much greater threat
<3> FreeMrkts: Because of evil immigration patterns!
<0> i mean jeeze.. how many people die from normal influenza a year? we don't lock ourselves up at home all winter for that
<5> bzip2 is a freely available, patent free (see below), high-quality data compressor. It typically compresses files to within 10% to 15% of the best available techniques (the PPM family of statistical compressors), whilst being around twice as fast at compression and six times faster at decompression.
<1> Free: bird flu is well understood ... mad cow is NOT and has an very easy fix that regulations can be effective in achieving
<0> it's the same thing as when the anthrax shut down the entire eastern-seabord mail system..
<6> maybe we should call it Mad Bird disease
<6> and Cow Flu
<3> _3Josephs: Mad Big Bird disease
<3> Moo Flu
<5> gets the kernel down to 38M anyways
<4> I saw a doctor expert in epidemics and pandemics, say that with mad cow basically its rare because so few but even more so If you dont eat the brain, or Hamburger of meat next to the spine you cant get it, Get a rump roast wash it and cook it.. Impossible to get mad cow.
<5> kernel source
<1> and if you keep the cow's central nervous system out of the sausage, there is zero danger
<4> Or grind your won hamburger from roasts
<3> Man, that sounds good
<3> clean hamburger meat without poop in it
<2> OcDoc: ug.. the idea that i may have "Cow Cortex" in my hamburger makes me ill
<5> im starting to get turned off of beef
<1> Free: I'm just saying that the government's role in some public health issues is not zero
<5> just learning more about the process
<5> and thinking about it as you watch it cook
<2> can I pay a premium for beef w/o 'other parts' ?
<4> Well Hamburger is basically what the butcher can sneak into it, you can put weight in it from crap meat mixed with good meat.
<3> bmc: Sausages and Legislation
<1> Free: I'm a libertarian, not an anarchist
<4> added weight = maximizing money
<3> bmc: If you like them, NEVER watch them being made
<2> OcDoc: why do people call us anarchists ? i never understood that.
<0> FM: also, any processed meat inherently has a higher risk of salmanila and other issues
<4> Of course having great clean meat = Great Reputation and higher prices can be gotten.
<1> liberT: good question
<0> a solid block of meat is far far safer
<3> liberT: character ******ination
<1> Lupine: not if you irradiate it
<5> im on a pork kick now
<4> OcDoc, What makes you think I think you are an Anarchist ?
<5> could eat it everyday
<4> I never said anything to imply that at all
<1> but people are terrified of "radiation"
<5> bacon, sausage, bbq
<5> tons of stuff
<3> mmm bbq
<1> Free: I didn't think you did
<4> Where is that from ?
<2> weird.. im starting to see a half dozen libertarians in this room at any given time period...
<5> just need to shoot a few deer for 'red' meat
<2> interesting.
<0> ocdoc: but it sits for a while post-irradiation
<7> should citations in my appendix be cited in my bibliography?
<4> Why do you say that ?
<2> makes me pleased.
<3> liberT: I'm actually a libertarina (lower case ell)
<0> and i doubt every supermarket will have a radiation machine for all their hmaburger
<3> er
<3> libertarian
<4> I dont think that was related to anything I was talking about.
<3> liberT: with strong secessionist tendencies :)
<0> sides, we paid good money for the mixer attachment to make ground meat and sausages :-)
<1> Free: no
<1> I'll repost
<2> jhicks: it's never a bad idea.
<3> liberT: I believe it's too far gone to fix :(
<5> there is no defined ideology that fits my beliefs
<5> i am me!
<3> Lobbyists and Lawyers ruined America
<1> <1> Free: I'm just saying that the government's role in some public health issues is not zero
<1> <1> Free: I'm a libertarian, not an anarchist
<5> little bit from here, little bit from there
<4> OcDoc, Oh I have never thought any different.
<8> hogwash, it couldn't hurt could it?
<3> bmc: commie!
<4> I know you agree the government has a place in public health
<1> Free: the two lines went together
<7> TheTailor, true that.. thanks
<4> It would almost be madness not to believe it.
<3> FreeMrkts: With the understanding they'll corrupt it
<4> Of course in epidemics and other things the government has no choice but to restrict some liberties or else more people will die.
<1> gotta head off to the showers ... back later maybe
<4> In fact I think you can square it with libertarian thought.
<9> Borrow & Spend Republicans
<8> Borrow & Spend Democrats
<3> Somebody somewhere has to conclude that m***ive overpopulation is part of the problem requiring curbs on liberty
<4> The notion that the government has no role unless you are harming someone in regulating your behavior, in a pandemic everyone is harming everyone else so you must control these people.
<10> Borrow and spend republicans
<10> disgust me
<9> Breaking News: At least 18 members of Mehdi militia loyal to radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr killed in clashes with U.S. military in Baghdad, Iraqi police say.
<10> wish we had contract with america
<10> where is newt when we need him
<2> aaronx: that would be.. the majority of them
<3> Liberty and population density are inversely proportional.
<2> aaronx: he's around.
<10> I am a republican
<8> Borrow & Spend politicians in general disgust me.
<10> and yet
<4> Criminalize and Imprison republicans.. And I am a republican.
<4> For now
<2> Borrow & Spend politicians disgust me.. period
<10> same FreeMrkts
<4> for 30 years
<5> L0c0 i thought a IED or something had exploded next to his house or something, how did our guys get involved in fighting against his guys? heh
<8> Pay off the national debt!
<3> FreeMrkts: They got infiltrated by democrats
<4> The spending you can understand because if republicans didnt do it, democrats would of spent a lot mroe.
<3> Not more, just different stuff
<11> I think libertarians are a bit anarchist, cause the ones I have talked to indebth think that anything and everthing is ok... no matter what it is...I have even heard some say that you should be able to have a tank if you want, but I think they are fanatics , maybe not.. I don't know.. I do not know enough about them to decide
<4> The prescription drug issue would of put Kerry in the whitehouse if Bush had not of backed some plan, he made it partially privatized and hence a better plan.
<3> JanetB: What's for dinner, I'll drop by to explain.
<12> I think Libertarianism is a dumb as **** idealogy, socially
<5> haha
<4> Then 911, the war, Katrina, Bush didnt ask for any of these catastrophic events.
<3> Herzen!
<12> Thats my 2 cents
<2> Janet: well - I think there should be no federal laws against owning a tank - i must admit State's could enforce their own.
<3> that was a nickel
<4> how could you nots spend more
<5> well the citizenry should be able to own tanks
<8> JanetB, in general they are fruitcakes, but when you find one that is serious they make good points.
<5> i dont know about inviduals owning tanks
<11> hehehe jhicks.. I am making pot roast, with wild rice, garden salad and corn bread :D
<4> FDR spent many many times the GDP on war than Bush has. Bush is only 1% higher than Clinton.
<5> individuals*
<3> ooooh
<11> hahah
<3> JanetB: MOMMY!
<5> i dont want the crazy guy down the street owning a tank
<8> Pot roast with wild rice?
<8> <perk>
<11> you are so funny
<3> man, that sounds GOOD
<11> TheTailor yup
<10> FDR started that war to get the economy started up again :)
<2> Janet: the tank argument goes back to the purpose of the 2nd ammendment - which is to make sure the people are armed and able to threaten the government should it ever become corrupt.
<3> JanetB: Tell your husband how lucky he is
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