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Comments:
<0> iota?
<1> so i would suggest you take your otherwise impervious unrealistic views to someone who cares
<2> 426: you're voting for repubs? if so, you're selling your country out, what more do I need to know about you?
<3> 426..unrealistic????
<1> liberT, no GOOD libertarian stands up
<4> But I would round up all the gangs and send them back, the one thing nice about non citizenship is you dont need an excuse to send them back, if they are harming us or our economy, Back they go..
<4> SHip them home
<1> i don't vote for people that run a "Legalise drugs" party line
<3> if so...that alone is proof as to how far we have wandered from the pale
<2> 426: of course they dont when everyone only votes for the safe bet.
<4> If they are working and paying taxes like so may are, Leave them be.
<1> i want someone who is a bit more political than "Legalise drugs"
<5> Lot of those gang kids are citizens.
<3> issat you ivied one? :)
<2> 426: whats the point of voting if you only back the people who will win before the election even happens?
<2> 426: christ man, stand for something.
<4> And even when they dont pay taxes the buisness pays a higher income tax
<4> Listen to this
<6> hi cry arvagh
<1> liberT, do you go into a voting booth and go "Wow dude i voted for the wrong person" cause you are too freakin stoned to know better?
<5> www.streetgangs.com -- this site has a lot of interesting stuff on street gangs.
<7> hey
<3> liberT...better yet.....how respectful of the people is an election where the candidates have 1 BILLION dollars to spend?
<2> 426: nah, absentee voting solves that issue.
<4> When a business pays someone under the table then they are taxed for the profit... All the money the illegals made or american under the table workers made is added to the companies taxable income
<6> :) *hugs*
<1> LiberT apparently you are one of those people who thinks that legalising drugs is all the libertarian party is about
<5> We should mandate networks give politicians free commercials. Part of FCC license.
<8> who cares about gangs rofl, all they do is kill each other and steal tv's from pawn shops
<3> 426...not true...
<2> 426: of course not, but the drug war is wasting my money, and i'm sick of it.
<4> So anyway you go about it the money is taxed
<1> Cry, i am talking about liberT
<3> liberT touched on several other aspects
<9> free... when its cheaper for them to pay the taxes and pay the illegal under the table, thats pathetic
<1> he did?
<5> I find the street gangs fascinating actuallly. In a kind of a lord of the flies sort of way.
<1> where?
<4> even if not at the business level its taxes at the sales tax level
<10> lemewinks if they only killed and stole from each other it'd be fine
<3> yes
<2> 426: i believe in free markets; the drug trade is part of free markets.
<1> like spending money?
<3> he is Pro FairTax....and a Minarchist
<9> tells you one of 2 things.. 1) the illegals work for too cheap 2) americans work for too much
<1> like the libertarian party is SOOOO honest
<4> And the buy a car level and pay 500 in taxes
<8> no allan50h : 0
<2> i repeat...
<1> show me an electable libertarian and i will show you a guy willing to spend money faster than water
<3> 426...scope their platform if you dare...
<8> it means globalization has a normalizing factor bringing our economy down and theirs up until both are equal
<0> http://www.floridagunworks.com/ATF_Open_Letter_7_13_05.html
<3> unlike the Dems and the GOP...they have ACTUAL positions
<4> Its a complete falsehood that they cost more than they contribute. Im going to Cato, They mush have articles on this brb
<11> liberT: do you support a company selling "flour", but really is rat poison or arsenic?
<1> Cry, i was in the libertarian party before all the stupid *** "druggies" joined it
<4> Chamber of commerce backs a amnesty program
<2> words of wisdom here guys ... 1. The government will always criminalize anything it can not regulate -- 2. regulate is a code word for "tax" ...
<0> 'will no longer allow importation of parts (kits) which would be illegal if ***embled
<10> CryHavoc wtf is a "minarchist" ?
<1> it used to be a constitutional restoration party
<4> liberT, And All Buisness men are evil
<1> but they lost that idealism about 15 years ago
<4> Corporate or small
<3> KoBushi...Only enough Government to Govern
<1> so don't talk to me about being libertarian
<11> bmc: is that the foreign barrel ban?
<3> only enough law to legate
<2> Free: eh, businessmen are amoral; and there is nothing wrong with that.
<8> dont libertarians not believe in having cops?
<3> KoBushi for an example....
<7> Remember, remember the 5th of November. Gunpowder treason and plot. I see no reason the gunpowder treason should ever be forgot.
<0> Lupine any parts kit that would be illegal if ***embled
<2> leme: no, you're thinking of anarchists.
<0> or parts for weapons that are illegal id imagine
<10> CryHavoc ah, so minimal government? gotcha
<2> leme: libertarians want minimalist government, thats all
<0> unless its for a pre-existing weapon
<0> im sure it has to be registered
<11> bmc: well, there was an on again/off again ban on barrels
<8> nah, i read about libertarianisim at it's extremity and thats what it said heh
<3> any gun law that Impedes the law abiding citizen..but does not impede a criminal with a gun should be abolished
<11> those were used to build legal-firearms
<2> leme: www.lp.org
<3> law abiding citizen meaning of legal age
<11> Cry: I support smart-guns with bullet-tagging.. but for the police first.
<1> i geuss the libertarians have a problem with restoring the constitution to its original intents and purpose
<1> GEEE i wonder why
<4> Read this folks and this was 2002 referenced from cato institute
<4> http://www.freetrade.org/pubs/pas/tpa-019es.html
<3> so..If I want a M-16...I should be able to buy one...WITHOUT any STUPID federal perimt!!
<0> The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) has determined that the language of 18 U.S.C. 925(d)(3) permits no exceptions that would allow frames, receivers or barrels for otherwise non-importable firearms to be imported into the United States.
<11> rusty: seems like most of the "new" libertarians are really just hedonists
<4> And no freetrade.org is not my domain
<1> i think Rush Limbaugh is right on about libertarians
<3> unless the Criminal also has to get a permit
<3> 426...how so???
<11> bmc: the thing is, a parts kit CAN be used to build an importable rifle
<3> Rush Limbaugh is RIGHT on....
<4> Legalizing Mexican migration would, in one stroke, bring a huge underground market into the open. It would allow American producers in important sectors of our economy to hire the workers they need to grow. It would raise wages and working conditions for millions of low-skilled workers and spur investment in human capital. It would free resources and personnel for the war on terrorism.
<11> bmc: infact, I used three AKM-47 kits to build fully legal [ i.e. 922r ] rifles
<1> they are whining liberals
<8> citing the founding fathers intentions for laws is a great way to try and make yourself seem right when you have nothing else but really the world was a little different then heh
<1> period
<10> Lupine there are many hedonist anarchists, and socialistic/utopian anarchists who fly the "libertarian" banner to try to make thier unreasonable ideas seem more mainstream than they are.
<1> that can't put a front runner in an election if they were given a billion dollars themselves
<0> Lupine well thats from back in July
<3> Limbaugh is a Bombast...a megaphone for the Right...blindly espousing thier ideology....no different than Al Franken in many respects
<1> HAHHAHAHA
<1> yeh thats it
<0> not sure what differences it made, i just came across it yesterday, never heard nothing about it
<6> more or less the same, tis true
<3> 426...that one Billion dollars is against the People...
<11> Cry: naw.. Limbaugh is a liberal plant. He is the Emperior Palpetine.. who really is a Sith Lord of the moonbats
<3> that is government not by the poeple for the people...
<11> The Sith Lord Limbaugh took an apprentice, named Darth Dean
<1> if Libertarians had a billion dollars to run for president
<1> they would lose
<1> period
<1> simple as that
<12> no, al franken is like rush limbaugh, at least limbaugh can come up with his own stuff, franken just takes POV he does not agree with and tries to rear them down
<3> it is tantamount to putting the prez election up on E-Bay with a 1 billion dollar reserve
<12> and that's really the whole problem for the left, stand for something, anything
<3> 426....interesting concept...
<0> Accordingly, ATF will no longer approve ATF Form 6 applications for importation of any frames, receivers, or barrels for firearms that would be prohibited from importation if ***embled. No exceptions to the statutory language, for example for "repair or replacement" of existing firearms, will be allowed.
<13> CH: both are kinda stupid and annoying in their presentation, imo
<10> All that a Libertarian president would accomplish would be uniting congress against him/her heh
<3> if they were allowed to bew in the Debates......I would flip a coin
<4> http://www.cato.org/dailys/02-15-04.html
<1> Cry
<8> govt is obselete, 1 president can't represent everyone : x should have a president for every state or something and more powerful state laws
<4> varied reading to understand the counterintuive realities of economics
<1> what would they debate?
<3> KoBushi..I expect the First Libertarian President to be ***asinated
<1> irresponsibility?
<1> legalise drugs?
<1> hahahha
<11> bmc: but they are lying, as the kits CAN be used to make legal/importable rifles
<0> so theyre not even permitting it for repair or replacement of existing rifles
<3> Irresponsibility....the Dems and GOP knw that well
<11> casador: yep
<12> get a small, significant voice before you go for a big one
<11> bmc: yea well, that was like .01% actually used for that
<10> casador eh, the Bull Moose Party did okay... but they were short lived
<4> http://www.cato.org/view_ddispatch.php?viewdate=20060324#1
<3> legalize drugs...the Libertarian can call the war on drugs what it is: An illegality in the first place
<0> they had some parts kits on the same page though
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