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<0> 500K, hard to round up
<1> yeah IamKing :)
<0> nobody has the political will to enforce the law
<2> salstress: the problem with your point is, that's what we have NOW and the borders are full of holes the way things are now
<2> salstress: I say let them all come in legally, keep track of them while they're here, and escort them to the border ONCE if they **** up
<0> plus, it's a bit like bailing water with a small cup, and a huge hole in your boat
<3> OcDoc, I agree
<2> if they ever come back once they've been told not to come back, kill them on sight
<4> Ewwww the aliens on Farscape are having ***!!!
<2> Hemi: don't ruin it for me
<1> OcDoc, no frigging way. first of all, we DON'T escort anyone to the border NOW, so what makes you think we would THEN?
<0> well, I would not kill anyone for a non-violent crime
<3> Kill them on sight? :-) Put them on a chaingang amnd make them clean up before sending them back.
<2> salstress: because now we CREATE criminals by our stupid law
<1> secondly how is having legal guest workers going to prevent illegal ones from coming over as well and undercutting the legal ones?
<3> OcDoc, we don't create them :-)
<2> salstress: if they could come here legally then they truly WOULD be criminals
<2> Tailor: no, the stupidity of the law combined with the demand for their labor does
<4> people are so ignorant of this immigration crap
<2> salstress: make them ALL legal ... can't you read?
<1> OcDoc, they already come here illegally because of the jobs and services. why do you think that they would stop doing that just because we made some of them legal?
<3> OcDoc, actually I think Mexico being so corrupt and not providing jobs creates them.
<1> OcDoc, making them all legal is akin to open borders.
<2> salstress: STOP the free services and concentrate on the few REAL criminals
<4> why NOT open the borders?
<2> Tailor: true, but we have little control over that
<1> right. we can't enforce our own laws to stop the services.
<5> Bush keeps winning in Iraq and his opponents become more and more shill.
<2> Hemi: they ARE open
<2> it's not possible to seal our borders
<4> so whats the problem?
<1> heh
<3> Teddy on Face the Nation :-)
<1> the problem is that we are allowing in people who DO NOT ***IMILATE
<4> there is a very simple solution to all of this and that is to take mexico and bring it into the fold of the USA
<3> This should be good bull****
<2> the East Germans couldn't seal the border with West Germany fer chrissakes
<6> yes, everything is great and fine and getting better and better thanks to our fearless leader George Bush
<2> Hemi: heh
<3> Teddy is going to tell us about immigration
<1> we must stop printing everything in spanish. we must END our welfare programs.
<7> TheTailor: what channel
<3> CBS
<8> poor people need to learn to do White collar crime
<1> i am fed up with paying a ****load of more and more taxes and people claiming they need to be even higher, while california's schools are considered dreadfully bad (uh, because of all the mexicans in them).
<2> salstress: amen! stop our welfare system
<4> ohh yeh thats right you guys are behind me, they already had Face the Nation on here
<6> poor people should be enslaved
<1> i am fed up with going to a drive thru and having to speak spanish in order to buy a hamburger
<9> teddy before noon on a sunday! thats harsh
<1> i am fed up with going to the library and seeing nothing but mexican women and their 5 kids.
<1> we are mexico.
<3> tornsoul, I suggest you act like an adult here.
<10> wus wrong with mexican women
<2> tornsoul: go ahead and try ... let us know how it turns out, m'kay?
<1> i am fed up with mexicans bringing their culture here and dominating what was our american culture.
<8> Do what our area does, don't hire mexicans and bring in Europeans kids to work the low paying jobs
<10> they do good m***ages in library
<1> if I wanted to live in mexico i would ****ing MOVE TO MEXICO
<3> nickzilla, nothing!
<4> what IS american culture?
<2> salstress: er, clue ... American culture wasn't that great
<4> Irish? Italian?
<11> German?
<2> I for one LIKE having a variety of cultures
<1> OcDoc, american culture wasn't that great so we just give it up to third world poverty culture? are you out of your frigging mind?
<3> salstress, if I had to live in California I would go insane.
<6> salstress, yes, what we need are concentration camps, how ****ing dare a Mexican mother try to educate her children!
<0> I don't really care about the culture thing, whoever can get here legally will eventually ***imilate
<2> salstress: I for one LIKE the mexicans I live and work with
<11> the xenophobia is thick!
<10> anyone of you found illegals sleepin in your backyards
<2> USMale: amen
<4> i want to know what the definition of American culture is, is it Irish? Italian? Jewish? what?
<12> tornsoul, you are devoiced (Requested by TheTailor - Reason: See your messages about our channel rules. )
<0> naw, there are better palces to sleep
<1> look. people do NOT ***imilate when what you have is a WHOLE COMMUNITY OF MEXICANS. a giant vast sprawling city of MEXICANS. why would they ***imilate?
<13> OcDoc: yes, but they are all legal immigrants that actually know English
<10> salvation army?
<2> nickzilla: no, but if I did I'd make sure he had a blanket and some food
<1> they do NOT ***imilate.
<1> Tailor, yes that explains my insanity
<0> eventually
<10> they like to dig a hole in your backyard and poop there
<10> and cover up with dirt later
<14> american culture is european...
<0> salstress: it may take a few generations
<2> salstress: many of them come her seasonally to work and then go home to Mexico ... so what? I LIKE that
<0> their kids will ***imilate, or face poverty
<2> slastress: you don't like it ... too bad
<1> USMale, no, not at all. because every year there are millions more getting in here.
<0> ormaybe, grandkids
<10> it's good for growing vegetables
<13> OcDoc: I doubt that salstress has a problem with legal immigrants bringing in their culture to be mixed with our own...but they also need to ***imilate into our own...not to become a heterogenous mixture but a homogenous
<0> salstress: well yeah, but I said "legal" ones
<4> there was complaints of ***imilation before WW2, it was the nazi's vs the jews, the jews were accused of not ***imilating also.... i am finding this immigrant battle to be EXTREMELY racist... and its disgusting
<2> IamKing: there's nothing to ***imilate ... I've been to Mexico, mostly nice place
<0> "whoever can get here legally"
<1> OcDoc, I don't like it too bad? I am a citizen. Do I not have the right to want to not see my country destroyed?
<2> Texas has ALWAYS been half Mexican ... it's a nice place too, except for the weather I mean
<1> USMale, absolutely. i love legal immigrants. totally different story.
<2> salstress: that's correct ... you don't have that right
<4> salstress if you dont like where you live than leave...
<10> illegals are great for lawyers
<3> OcDoc, the weather changes about every 10 minutes
<15> The Mexicans, just like the those of Islam, outbreed you by a ratio of 5-6 to 1. They will conquer you and your country by force of numbers.
<10> good business
<1> wow OcDoc is a moron.
<2> Tailor: heh
<13> OcDoc: part of the ***imilation is learning the language here...and even though English is not officially the language of this nation, it should be...regardless that it is not currently, it IS the language that the people speak here by the strong majority of all current US citizens
<1> note to self.
<0> salstress: that's all I was talking about -- we need to accept only legal immigration, and then after that is under control, we shou;ld raise the # allowed in
<16> `426Hemi: actually.... Jews ***imilated to the countries... at home they kept their own culture
<2> IamKing: the fewer things that are "official" in my country, the better I like it
<0> but we can't raise teh number now, it would just be pointless
<1> right. if you don't like the fact that your city has been taken over by citizens of another country, then the thing to do is leave.
<0> 1) control teh border then (2) raise teh quota to meet our labor needs
<4> Rcane, they ***imilated, and were accused of not doing so, its all the jews fault! wahhhwahhhhwahhhhh
<13> OcDoc: well, then I would agree with salstress on this one...you are indeed a moron
<2> Ich sprechen ein bischen Deutsch, y yo hablo un poquito espanol
<2> IamKing: nice
<2> spreche
<4> its the same sounds coming out of the likes of salstress now, you find america ****s? well blame it on Mexicans!
<1> oh well this is retarded.
<0> the quotas we have now are many times lower than what really comes in
<2> IamKing: you and salstress have the POWER to screw things up here royally, but in my opinion not the RIGHT to do so
<4> i wonder what is the history of salstresses family
<8> we had a mexican in our town once, but he chopped up his girlfriend and drove around with the body parts in his truck for a couple days
<0> lol
<15> Nice.
<0> liar ;P
<4> i bet his ancestors immigrated here at one time, and couldn't speak a freakin' word of english
<2> I don't things are all that bad, and certainly not BECAUSE of the mexicans here ... things are screwed up because you let welfare and other stupid laws go into effect
<13> OcDoc: your opinion is completely irrelevant since it has been determined that you are a moron
<0> no it's not the MExicans fault
<0> per se
<2> and then let anyone who wants the welfare to get it
<0> if you allow kids to take apples from your tree, then don't be suprised when a dozen kids are taking apples
<2> IamKing: keep it up ... now everyone knows exactly what your debating abilities are
<17> You knwo what pisses me off -- all these mexicans carrying mexican flags, if they wanna be american they should be carryin american flags
<0> we have to set rules, and we have to "mean it"
<0> and enforce it
<2> aaronx: they don't WANT to be Americans ... they want to work here and we have jobs for them that we want done
<17> and learn english
<2> aaronx: it's a TRADE, see?
<12> Agent43, you are devoiced (Requested by TheTailor )
<13> US-Male: no, it's the welfare mentality that we have perpetrated by the Democrats...they essentially force these illegal immigrants into insular societies in which they do not integrate nor ***imilate into American culture
<4> ocDoc actually.........
<0> right now, it is half the faults of the people who are breaking the law, and the other half lies with our Federal govt for not enfcring the law
<17> We should enforce immigration laws
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