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<0> WOOP
<1> don't invoke cnn in this channel
<0> good morning ladles and gents!
<2> bellhaven, does it cite a report?>
<3> CNN, the lamest name in news. :)
<4> it is ****ing shocking to me that m***ive amounts of illegal aliens would protest in our streets about our laws.
<5> Communist News Network
<1> prax, you're late!
<6> TheTailor: yes, the same FBI report the aussies cited
<3> How are CNN's ratings these days, anyway? :)
<7> al jazeera owns cnn
<2> bellhaven, they didn't cite a report
<1> ratings = reliability ?
<3> Decline: There you go.
<6> WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A memo from a senior FBI counterterrorism official has outlined three alleged cases of abuse in 2002 that FBI agents had become aware of while serving at the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base prison.
<4> I am to the point where I cannot watch any television news at all.
<4> I don't trust any mainstream news source now.
<0> salstress thats why i keep a bunch of 7.62x39 40 round mags loaded - in case 500k of them converge downtown (where i live) (like they did yesterday) and then start to riot
<3> salstress: I haven't owned a television set for seven years now. Pull the plug!
<5> hehe the SPGA started today! "Seal Pup Golfing ***ociation"
<8> sals: even BBC, Deutsche Welle, or Antenne 2?
<5> Fouuurrrrr!!!! *thwack!*
<2> bellhaven, what horese****, a MEMO, hahaha - WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A memo from a senior FBI counterterrorism official has outlined three alleged cases of abuse in 2002 that FBI agents had become aware of while serving at the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base prison.
<4> praxis, I find the digital music channels, the history channel, south park and hbo shows quite good.
<9> Hemi: you know these foreigners are better at spin than the home grown liberals are
<5> racists
<2> bellhaven, ALLEGED
<5> Euro-peon nazi's
<10> can i post to you in pm TheTailor?
<11> TT its on the net its THE TRUTH !!!!
<11> HAS TO BE !!!!
<2> fordnut, sure
<4> Timur, BBC news is lame too, though different to be sure. I can't trust ANY news source. NONE. none is trustworthy. it is so frustrating.
<5> can't look at their own faults so, lets make up lies about how bad and evil the big bad USA is
<0> RALEIGH, N.C. -- The man who hit nine people with a sport utility vehicle on the University of North Carolina's Chapel Hill campus wrote a letter to a television reporter saying he read the Quran's 114 chapters 15 times and found that the Muslim holy book justified the attack.
<0> ''I did not act out of hatred for Americans, but out of love for Allah instead,'' Mohammed Taheri-azar, 22, wrote in a letter to Amber Rupinta dated March 10 posted on WTVD's Web site.
<3> salstress: I buy books and listen to music and keep up with politics via blogs and websites. I don't really miss TV.
<11> but lets ignore the word alleged even though its right there before your very ****ing eyes
<11> that words is never important
<12> its' impossible to represent the truth anyway, that's why its up to us to interpret what we read/view
<4> praxis, well frankly i think you are absolutely right, because all of the things i like to watch can be had in video
<1> they always put "alleged" into news stories
<9> I am getting pissed
<1> network lawyers insist on it
<9> today
<4> praxis, except for the digital music.
<5> i allege that Linus is gay all the time
<0> tv aint all bad - discovery science channel, hbo/sopranos, cnbc
<13> why do people hide on IRC ? It's already anonymous enough
<1> allege away!
<7> "Because of his commercial and personal ***ociation with Herman Schmitz, and his awareness that he must protect Standard's interest in Nazi Germany, Teagle made many visits to Berlin and the Standard tanks and tank cars in Germany throughout the 1930s. "
<2> Linus-, well no, it's alleged if it's alleged, they put it there because there is't a showing, it can't be proven
<3> salstress: It isn't worth it. The people who talk about so much on television aren't any more intelligent than you and I. And they're obviously more corrupt.
<0> US-Male i hide on irc because i am horribly disfigured!
<0> jk
<6> TheTailor: http://www.aclu.org/torturefoia/released/052505/ this outlines the FBI report numbers
<13> heh
<5> I heard that those were pictures of Linus wearing panties on his head, not Abu Ghraib prisoners, allegedly
<7> "In 1941, Standard Oil of New Jersey was the largest petroleum corporation in the world. Its bank was Chase, its owners the Rockefellers. Its chairman, Walter C. Teagle, and its president, William S. Farish, matched Joseph J. Larkin's extensive connections with the Nazi government."
<1> he allegedly alleged that i was allegedly gay, allegedly all the time
<13> people pay good money to have dog leashes put on them
<3> You know, the grand liberal narrative - that the United States is evil - gets rather old.
<13> and panties on the head
<12> "people who talk on television" is a pretty large demographic
<6> lol US-Male
<9> Decline: ever heard of a private business?
<13> =)
<2> bellhaven, umm yeah, the ACLU hasn't seen any torture there either, that's well known.
<1> I'm trimming my alleges
<5> an anonymous source in Washington told me that Linus prefers Hanes over Fruit of the Loom, allegedly
<6> TheTailor: regardless, it shows the FBI report numbers, and links to them
<3> n8: I'm speaking about those who, generally speaking, address politics.
<1> its less wordy
<5> oh god, Ted Kennedy is promoting his civil war in Iraq series today
<0> were there any abu gharib photos that involved actual physical torture, i didnt even see any which involved "torture" that would leave so much as a scratch or welt.
<1> ya gotta admit, "fruit of the loom" sounds really gay
<5> god i hate racist democrats
<2> bellhaven, yeah, we were over that months ago, it hasn't any showing of torture.
<12> praxis9: i think there are some legitimate pundits, again, you just have to listen to other's opinions but decide for yourself...
<7> Publius, business it is, Ford, General Motors, Standard Oil, the Texas Company, Sterling, Davis Oil Company etc. They made money on it, and that's what is important for americans?
<3> It's all talking points, media-driven stuff. There isn't any honesty involved, generally speaking.
<6> TheTailor: Depends on what your definitions of turture is
<6> torture
<4> praxis, well, there are a lot more people more intelligent than me and more up on issues and more able to analyze information and communicate it effectively and who read a lot of news every day. I rely on these people to help digest some of the things that I don't understand in the world. These people are best found on the internet. Yes they sometimes appear on television, but in such short sound bites and in such ridiculous conte
<1> `426Hemi, start protesting at funerals
<4> seeing them. And newspapers are just hard copies of what i can get on the internet. so yes, all the news i need is on the web.
<13> it deepends on what the meaning of "is" is
<0> Decline: Better sell your Standard Oil stock then huh!
<9> Decline: So that meant the American people and government were involved in creating the Nazi's?
<0> ;p;
<0> lol
<1> eez
<9> ****ign read some history
<1> ****ignoramus
<14> history is for old people ;-)
<7> Publius, the people - no, the government - yes
<2> bellhaven, exactly, and trolls like you would call name calling torture, that's been shown, don't start that **** about what torture is.
<1> ha
<15> publius: georg bush's grand daddy supported the nazis
<1> waxers of nostalgia
<12> praxis9: sorry, this channel is too busy for me. or i'm too slow... cya
<5> I think i am going to start protesting at Ted Kennedy's favorite bar
<4> George Bush should call for internment of arab americans.
<9> Decline: you don't get how the government works then
<0> i didnt see one abu gharib photo from the era it was under control of the US which was actually torture... looked more like humilation and scaring the crap out of people to me
<9> toomey: what?
<15> look up Prescott Bush, he invested in the nazis
<9> you ****ing show me
<5> Publius well generally lefties don't have a clue about government other than what Mommy and Daddyment tell them
<0> toomey lolol
<2> toomey, Bush's grandfather was doing business as ususal with Europe at the time.
<9> Chamberlain invested in the Nazi's
<13> anyway, 4 years ago the press was floating several stories about how we planned to use "Stress positions" and various means of persuasion etc. -- nobody said a word agasinst it
<0> TheTailor, Prescott Bush owned ONE SHARE of a company which owned shares of a Nazi company
<1> Bushes Sweep Miss America awards, Laura wins Miss Congeniality Smoker and W wins Miss Underestimate Terr title
<9> TImur: hehehe
<2> b1ff, right, simple business, nothing more.
<15> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush#War_seizures_controversy
<5> toomy, thats ok, shall we post the pictures of the Belgian peacekeepers in Somalia?
<3> That's nothing. Vannevar Bush was involved with a UFO study group. :)
<4> US-Male, exactly. I remember reading an article in the LA Times talking about all kinds of ingenious methods of psy ops that were used to get information from prisoners. and it was a very favorable article. IN THE LA TIMES.
<2> toomey...
<9> wikuipedia is not going to cut it
<13> IMO, if you were told in advance, and didn't say **** -- you should nto be able to bitch about it later
<9> toomey: I am reading it
<13> salstress" yup
<2> REad the general disclaimer for Wiki
<0> toomey ive seen a copy of the stockholders cert
<0> 1 share
<9> but that won't cut it as a source in general
<3> Look up Vannevar Bush.
<3> :)
<15> 1 share worth 1.5 million dollars
<16> Well, the real sources are at the bottom.
<7> Publius, Yes I do
<6> yeah unless your source is foxnews or the white house, get lost
<7> Publius; "Simultaneously, the Transradio stations, according to State Department reports with the full knowledge of David Sarnoff, kept up a direct line to Berlin. The amount of intelligence p***ed along the lines can scarcely be calculated. The London office was in constant touch with New York throughout the war, sifting through reports from Argentina, Brazil, and Chile and sending company reports to the Italian and German interests."
<15> 1.5 million dollars back then was huge
<15> so dont just say 1 share
<2> bellhaven, is that what I said or are you putting words in my mouth again?
<0> wikipedia is ok for some topics like, give me a quick 2 min overview on botswana beyond the stats in the cia world factbook
<6> TheTailor: no you didnt say that, and i didnt attribute it to you
<14> Wikipedia is great if you don't care about accuracy
<5> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/UN/peace.html <---- ahhhhh those friendly belgian peacekeepers trying to warm up that Somalian
<4> the more that americans hate america, the more we are losing the propaganda wars. i don't know how people in the media sleep at night. they must surely not be ABLE to recognize that their actions are ruining us. they are so arrogant to a standard of "objectivity" that they don't CARE that they are ruining and have ruined this country.
<2> bellhaven, nice recovery :-)
<6> lol
<9> There are unsubstantiated rumors concerning Prescott Bush's ***ociations with the Nazi party
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