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Comments:
<0> ah
<0> the touch of rhetoric
<1> there is no civil war to speak of, casulties are down
<2> depends on who you ask
<2> you ask iraqis they say civil war
<3> DarthBurg: would you like it if a country bombed your home country, killed your neighbors, and then said "Democracy is here... don't fear.."
<0> doesn't it always to you liberals
<1> caspase-9 which answer do you get from the media?
<4> Zarathus7, I think not, they knew exactly what they were doing, to think they weren't informed is silly. Whatever wiretaps of terrorists and their buds happens, lets have more of it.
<2> darth: the whole 'looked over the edge and backed away'
<5> there is one senator that stood alone in defense of the constitution. when the ironicaly named patriot act was p***ed.
<1> Zarathus7 Number one answer from iraqi's on invasion of Iraq, "What took you so long."
<2> but iraqis are like 'screw that, we are in the middle of a civil war'
<3> DarthBurg: what Iraqi's did you ask?
<0> jhicks: Hey!
<4> Zarathus7, don't you find it odd that if htere was a violation of law with these wiretaps that libs would be filing suit one way or another? They aren't.
<1> caspase-9 thats not a fair ***esment, objectively, the media is calling Iraq a failure, i think we can agree on that one at least
<2> darthburg: you are forgetting the next part
<2> no we dont
<3> TheTailor: ACLU/EFF have filed suit
<1> Zarathus7 ask Gallop.
<2> the media is painting a rosie optomistic picture of iraq
<6> ha ha ha
<4> Zarathus7, well gee, they don't have standing, it won't be heard.
<1> caspase-9 no I know you are deluded.
<0> jhicks: I got something for you old man
<6> Publius: What whippersnapper
<5> until there is a list of the people bush has illegally spied on, we won't know if there was any abuse.
<0> jhicks: I feel that my county should secede from the state of Georgia
<2> its pretty bleak where i sit
<6> Publius: Couldn't hurt
<4> bemis, I guess that ends that!
<3> TheTailor: no standing? What about the fact the wiretaps violate FISA?
<0> jhicks: I was having a state to state argument and Georgia on the whole was simply losing
<4> Zarathus7, that doesn't give the ACL
<6> Publius: Gwinnett?
<4> U standing.
<0> jhicks: Yeah
<4> Zarathus7, that doesn't give the ACLU standing.
<1> caspase-9 funny, its not so bleak over here. care to try an experiment?
<6> Publius: My brother lives in Buford
<5> TheTailor, we pay for the government. the least they can do is tell us who they spy on. unless there is a valid security reason not to.
<6> Publius: He'll probably help
<2> ok, so these insurgents in iraq are ... on the verge of being eliminated ... for the past how long ?
<4> bemis, your representatives know who was listened in on.
<6> Old Shadburn Ferry Rd
<0> jhicks: He can't like the socialist take over of Atlanta
<2> yah doesn't seem like we are doing anything except holding our ground
<3> TheTailor: then who does have standing?
<6> Publius: He's a stinkin democrat but his dog is republican.
<4> Zarathus7, the congress I guess.
<6> Publius: I like the dog.
<2> i love how being a republican is trendy these days
<3> TheTailor: Congress does not file suit in the Courts, Congress p***es legislation
<0> jhicks: he better drop that title or he sure as hell ain't comin with Gwinnett when we high tail it otu
<2> i missed the 80's
<5> TheTailor, i doubt it. i don't think there is a list circulating of all the people the bush administration has illegally monitored.
<6> Publius: He's a conservative Democrat
<1> caspase-9 well, point in fact, I did not exactly think it was wise of ol **** to say that. But i think its pretty pointless to point out the insurgency is not taking "Any ground" most of Iraq is pretty mellow, Kurdisatn is nice they say, and the insurgents are simply setting roadside bombs, and other guerilla tactics, tough ones to defend against
<1> so
<4> Zarathus7, they can investigate and take findings to the courts
<0> jhicks: He vote for Bush?
<4> Zarathus7, the question is, why aren't they.
<6> Publius: Hell no, Bush is a liberal.
<0> LOL
<2> thats the beauty of a war of insurgency darthburg !
<2> you can win without doing any real fighting
<0> jhicks: so he voted for the 3rd
<1> when you realize all of this, you ask yourself, Why IS the insurgency still going, what battles ARE they winning? and there is only one logical answer.
<6> Publius: BIG TIME Liberal
<3> TheTailor: what court? they can decrease funding for the NSA but they Congress is _never_ a party in Court
<2> you wear dwon your enemy
<6> Publius: I think he voted Libertarian
<6> He hated Kerry
<5> bush isn't liberal or conservative. he's just a screw up the fake christians elected.
<2> insurgency isn't about winning the battle
<1> caspase-9 and you are all ready worn down. amazing huh.
<2> its about making the other guy lose
<4> Zarathus7, special prosecutor?
<2> man get some strategery skills
<1> caspase-9 and?
<6> bemis: He's the most liberal president in history besides FDR but close
<1> caspase-9 you are reinforcing my point
<3> TheTailor: yes, but a special prosecutor involves crimes such as murder, espionage, etc.
<2> its right out of the CIA handbook
<0> jhicks: jhicks: you seen this: https://www.lpgeorgia.com/gwinnett/bylaws.htm
<1> how is the insurgency going to get the US to "Lose"?
<2> according to our own plans for wars of insurgency
<2> darthburg: political backlash
<4> Zarathus7, crime is crime, why hasn't a special prosecutor been appointed?
<6> Publius: I'm trying to forget about Georgia.
<2> that 'media' thing you talk about
<2> while i agree they aren't representative of anyone anymore
<3> TheTailor: they don't need a special prosecutor, Bush admits everything he's doing... he just claims it's legal
<5> jhicks, bush is hardly liberal. he's not that bright. he can't imagine himself in somebody elses shoes.
<0> jhicks: that is the libertarian party website for Gwinnett County
<1> caspase-9 so, the battles are taking place where? in the media. So as long as we do not all start thinking just like you, we will be ok.
<2> they are starting to oscilate in sync with the m***es on a couple things
<0> jhicks: I just freakin told you were are thinknig of seceeding
<2> battles?
<3> TheTailor: for political reasons the Congress is scared to do anything.. the Courts are the only option
<2> dude insurgency
<4> Zarathus7, and it seems everyone agrees, if not they would take action, they aren't.
<2> there is no battle
<2> man
<1> hehehe
<6> bemis: He likes giving welfare to every ****hole in the world
<2> seriously go read the cia insurgency manual
<6> bemis: makes him liberal in my book
<2> its all there, i mean we wrote the book, literally
<6> VERY liberal
<1> caspase-9 yes there is a battle, you just said what it was, a political battle.
<4> Zarathus7, the courts don't take action, they hear the case others bring.
<1> political battles are fought where? the media.
<3> yes
<2> no
<2> sorry
<1> lol
<2> you are giving them too much credit
<3> TheTailor: yes, the ACLU and the EFF will give them their say
<1> it is true, you can lead a person to logic, but you can not make them think.
<0> Iraq has WMD and Hillary is a slut: http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/iraq_wmd_2004/Comp_Report_Key_Findings.pdf
<5> jhicks, yeah. bush loves the ****holes. except when he invades them.
<1> I tried.
<2> people do discern what is going on from what the media says is going on, albeit not wholey accurate
<2> its what the media doesn't say
<0> DarthBurg: good practice for 08
<1> caspase-9 nice dodge.
<2> i will not agree that anything but nukes are WMDs
<0> DarthBurg: it's going to be a hard election
<4> Zarathus7, nope, they won't hear it, ACLU/EFF have no standing to bring a case, their rights haven't been violated.
<6> TheTailor: It's a pity really to see the President unraveling like this
<2> man
<6> :(
<2> its not a football game
<3> TheTailor: they have been potentially wiretapped and it's a cl***-action suit
<1> Publius naw, not if this is the best material they have.
<4> jhicks, haha, unraveling? :-)
<2> i swear, since when did politics become a sport?
<1> this has been done over to death
<6> TheTailor: yeah, lapsing into paranoid delusions
<6> poor guy
<5> caspase-9, nukes are orders of magnitude more destructive than other weapons.
<7> caspase-9: it's always been a sport
<8> They see me rollin', they hatin'
<4> Zarathus7, nice try, but they are grasping at straws, they can't prove any damage.
<6> And manic episodes
<0> DarthBurg: lol, would yuo like to have a spot of tea to cool down?
<9> jhicks: didnt see you come in, good evening
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