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<0> Brak55, well it's a fact that your opinion from what I see is the same as about 20% of those I run into.
<1> Abu Ghraib Detainees' Statements Describe ***ual Humiliation And Savage Beatings
<1> this != rape
<2> prax -- guess they haven't seen any of those frat boys - rush week stuff
<1> oh gawd
<3> AAA: Ooo. It's the idiot civil war meme! Let's spew!
<4> The sworn statements, taken in Baghdad between Jan. 16 and Jan. 21, span 65 pages. Each statement begins with a handwritten account in Arabic that is signed by the detainee, followed by a typewritten translation by U.S. military contractors.
<4> there you are.
<5> oh no
<5> not this crap again
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<1> The fresh allegations of prison abuse are contained in statements taken from 13 detainees
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<1> The fresh allegations of prison abuse are contained in statements taken from 13 detainees
<6> gopp -- Are things better: Mr. Azawi's body was found the next morning at a sewage treatment plant. A slight man who raised nightingales, he had been hogtied, drilled with power tools and shot.
<1> so your edvince is from 13 detainees
<1> oh gawd
<5> just accept that there is *** destruction
<1> that all your sources is
<7> libertine: The May 2002 US State Dept. report on Iraq's Human rights violations. http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2001/nea/8257.htm
<3> libertine: Oh, yes. And we all know that the dear little wonderful souls at Gitmo would never, ever lie. Oh, no.
<1> libertine please give me a break
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<1> The fresh allegations of prison abuse are contained in statements taken from 13 detainees
<8> oh great, doubleclick links. thanks gopp
<9> gopp: ****ing stop.
<7> goops: dude
<6> gopp -- Would you rather be raped or tortured with an electric drill
<2> gopp -- thats enough
<10> gopp, you are devoiced (Requested by TheTailor )
<5> gopp:L jesus dude
<5> chill
<3> Hey! Later! YOU MOONBATS KEEP SPEWING.
<6> e period from March 7 to March 21 was typically brutal: at least 191 bodies, many mutilated, surfaced in garbage bins, drainage ditches, minibuses and pickup trucks.
<11> TheTailor: Well, don't you work with the military a lot of the time. It would make sense, then, that your "contacts" would skew the numbers a bit.
<12> bush is turning the USA into the USSR
<7> libertine: The May 2002 State Dept. report on Iraqi Human rights: http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2001/nea/8257.htm
<5> wtf was up with the links of doom
<0> Brak55, how so?
<5> spambusters biotcch
<6> What a comparison to make -- are things better or worse -- almost impossible to say
<4> gopp: This is in contrast to an article you pasted that simply uses the term "rape rooms" without giving any justification for why we think they existed.
<1> hmm Sorry DUde
<1> libertine fair enough
<12> rape rooms? check out a frat house
<11> TheTailor: You're going to get more pro-US comments from Military people then you would from people in, say, Boston.
<1> libertine you pasted that something, tht sources "13 detaines"
<2> libertine -- do you also deny the m*** graves with women holding little babies?
<6> Iraq torture is so bad now , it is hard to conceive things were worse
<5> yeah...please close down a frathouse
<9> Ignoring the positive while emphasizing the negative is a great campaign strategy. In the context of critiquing a war, it's also treason.
<4> No we have ample evidence that saddam killed a lot of ****ers.
<5> that stuff is not funny
<1> libertine " The fresh allegations of prison abuse are contained in statements taken from 13 detainees "
<4> Note kaliuna: My claim was not, i will repeat
<1> libertine from your liberal source
<5> we killed a lot of people
<0> Brak55, there are poeple in Killeen from all over the world, it's like a little international city in the middle of nowhere.
<4> that there were no official rapes under saddam
<9> Something most Americans recognize instinctively, which is why they keep turning off the Democrats.
<5> saddam killed a lot of people
<6> gopp --body was returned to his family with his skull chopped in half.
<4> merely that iraq has not been free of such rapes under the US either :)
<12> pickle: treason? **** you ****ing stalinist
<13> Publius: Iraqi Human Rights 2006 : http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/11/AR2005121101002_pf.html
<12> pickle: treason? **** you ****ing stalinist
<14> You know, I've never listened to a song before and thought to myself, "holy ****ing ****, that it some unbelievably brilliant accordian work."
<0> hahaha
<5> now the question is "who's worse"
<8> score!
<14> And yet, I'm listening to such a song right now.
<6> gopp -- Currently, According to reports filed by family members and more than a dozen interviews, many men were taken in daylight, in public, with witnesses all around. Few cases, if any, have been investigated.
<5> us or saddam
<5> its just like Mei Lei
<7> libertime: Can you show me the UN reporting this. The UN, the US military, and or any other official report. I'm not talking about media articles
<5> the Marines arent designed to go and police stuff
<5> they are programmed to kill every living thing they see
<5> its what they do
<6> gopp wars his heart with improvement: atrocities on each side. "But what is different is when Shiites get killed by suicide bombs, everyone comes together to fight the Sunni terrorists," he said. "When Shiites kill Sunnis, there is no response, because much of this killing is done by militias connected to the government."
<1> libertine "From the very start, Saddam Hussein's trial has been unruly and unpredictable. He has interrupted witnessed, hectored the judge, cursed, even boycotted the proceedings. Saddam and seven co-defendants are charged with crimes against humanity for the killing of 148 people after an attempt on his life.
<1> "
<5> having Marines police stuff is dumb
<1> liberT CNN International
<5> its not their job
<11> linuxnerd: Don't worry about treason so much. The word has been bastardized so much in this administration it has become almost meaningless.
<4> gopp: What does that have to do with rape rooms
<5> and when you try to make it their job stuff like this happens
<6> gopp -- The human rights office of the Iraqi Islamic Party, a mostly Sunni group, has cataloged more than 540 cases of Sunni men and a few of Sunni women who were kidnapped and killed since Feb. 22
<7> gopp: show me the repots on the rape rooms. Don't give me crap media articles. I can wait a while
<7> goop
<6> gopp -- the rapes continue or even worse
<7> I mean
<7> libertine: show me the reports on the rape rooms. Don't give me crap media articles. I can wait for some time
<8> so our soldiers are gay rapists? why do you hate the troops?
<1> libertine " Under Saddam, terrorism was very tightly controlled by the government. It was parceled out in measured doses to keep the populace under control. Random arrests and disappearances, the rape rooms, the maimings, the attempts at genocide -- all were calculated to keep the general Iraqi public cowed, too afraid to speak out -- let alone rise up against Saddam. "
<6> taxcut -- Why blame our troops -- THe Iraqis have taken over
<8> I'm not blaming our troops
<6> gopp -- What has changed with Saddam gone?
<4> this looks promising
<4> Last year a Republican senator conceded that they contained scenes of "rape and murder" and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld said they included acts that were "blatantly sadistic."
<4> let me track down which republican senator said that
<6> gopp -- What has changed with Saddam gone?
<0> lol
<4> again, the use of the word "rape room" by some journalist you do not consider liberal media
<0> What has changed?
<4> does not amount to evidence of rape rooms
<0> AAAman, are you serious? :-)
<7> libertine: I'd like to see a report, or a link to it
<4> but you should realize that this is not really a situation you can win
<4> I'm just trying to get you to accept a certain standard of proof regarding saddam's "rape rooms"
<7> libertine: militarily?
<6> TheTailor -- Is our amb***ador serious?
<15> what is gone is total socialist care for 60% of Iraq's adult populace... looking for a career change
<4> so that i can provide equivalent evidence of rapes under the US
<4> this establishing my original claim
<0> AAAman, do women voting catch your eye?
<6> TheTailor -- Zalmay Khalilzad, the American amb***ador, is now saying that militias are Iraq's No. 1 security threat.
<7> libertine: I have avoided a lot of the Abu Ghraib things. All I know is that the offenders have been punished
<4> which i will remind you, for the third time, was not that there were no rapes under saddam
<8> saddam liked little boys
<4> but that iraq is not free of such things under the US :)
<6> TheTailor -- Has voting stopped the killing, started electrical and oil production?
<0> AAAman, if that were true the army would have split and there would be a civil war.
<7> libertine: You are contending that the US is just as bad as Hussein
<4> No.
<7> libertine: Hussein gased around 35,000 innocent civilians in his regine
<4> Not quite.
<7> it's close
<6> TheTailor -- Since it is a SHtite Army, there is no split
<4> I Am contending that the presence of the US has not freed iraq of "rape rooms"
<0> AAAman, really, it's all Shiite?
<0> AAAman, everyone?
<4> publius: let's stick to the facts please.
<11> AAAman: It's a ****e army? I thought they were better than that!
<8> so again, libertine calls our soldiers rapists
<4> Concerning rape rooms.
<6> militias under the greatest suspicion, and the ones with the strongest ties to the government, are Shiite. Maj. Gen. Rick Lynch, a spokesman for the American military, said Shiite militias have played a role in the killings
<7> libertine: and think the proper proof for that is a UN report, Dept. of State rept. or a Military report
<4> taxcut: only the ones who have committed rapes.
<6> While countless Sunni insurgents have been arrested and tried on murder charges, very few Shiite militiamen have been apprehended.
<0> libertine, have they found new rape rooms? Children's prisons? M*** graves?
<4> publius: i'd be glad to entertain such a standard of proof if you can document saddam's "rape rooms" equivalently.
<7> libertine: http://www.defenselink.mil/
<7> oops
<7> libetine: I did earlier
<1> libertine I found rape rooms
<7> one sefc
<4> I'm going to poop.
<1> libertine undersaddam
<4> Let me know if you find them.
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