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Comments:
<0> tipsy
<1> reinstate Saddam!
<2> Haven't seen Mac in a long long time :(
<0> USMale: he's no longer fit
<1> we can rebuild him
<3> he's probably busy, the state government is actually working a bit lately
<1> mahe him better than he was
<4> KalL: Yes saddam in power was more stable m***acring people than what there is now
<5> Bokavitch you're all infidels what's the difference? :P
<6> e have the technology
<1> stronger .... faster
<7> MacKenzi moved to San Francisco to finally get his *** change.
<4> I don't understand why people think tyranny is instability
<2> Bok -- you're either nuts or..... crazy
<7> He's wanted that for a long time
<0> the six million dollar weenie
<1> me neither
<3> Bokavitch: and it mostly stayed out of the headlines as well
<7> OcDoc has too
<1> tryanny is cool.
<3> see what I mean? that's a far more offensive joke to me
<0> Bokavitch: it's not instability ... it's worse
<7> Reflections on a Science Fiction Era, the sci-fi writer Lloyd Eshbach describes meeting Hubbard in the late 1940s. "I'd like to start a religion," Eshbach recalls Hubbard saying. "That's where the money is."
<1> Saddam was a great leader
<3> eh
<8> Twobar: yes he's taking advantage of california's new tranny-friendly laws
<3> I've seen a photo of him, he'd make a terrible woman
<5> US-Male not helping.. :/
<7> panini, in San Francisco, if you work for the city, it will pay for your *** change
<1> heheheh
<6> Bokavitch, you should read saddams secrets, you will learn alot about saddam in the first few chapters
<8> Twobar: yup!
<3> and they wonder why city government is overspending
<0> Twobar: all Heinlein got out of it was the Manson Clan
<5> world peace cannot be realized until tyranny is eliminated.
<0> and some bizarre murders
<3> health coverage that includes that doesn't come cheap
<7> Whirrled Peas !
<8> that's why all the trannies ar applying for city jobs
<1> people just don't respect a decent tyrannical dictator anymore !
<9> ebbtepid - then go sign up for the army and get started on changing the world if you think that's what it takes
<1> what is the world coming to....
<0> okay ... barbecue time
<0> laterz mebbe
<10> OcDoc: After dark?
<6> bye OcDoc
<4> My point point is that my arguments always go like this, "Iraq was a bad idea for AMERICA, it is now more unstable and a haven for terrorists and has added fuel to the fire in the middle east, we as AMERICANS were safer with saddam in power" to which someone replies "Saddam killed thousands of people, you call that stable"
<6> only 7 where he is
<9> there are tyrranical dictators all over the world. we're allies with many of them.
<1> Saddam was great, whattya mean
<5> steve--o_ i didnt say it takes invading every tyrannical nation. the point is to show how democracy can thrive and tyranny are stuck in the past. that way other regimes can be uprooted by their own people
<11> i wish i had health insurance like those effing towelheads
<6> Iraq was not stable, again read the book Saddams secrets
<1> yes, Saddam had a good health plan
<3> it only seemed stable because there weren't headlines about it every day in the USA
<1> I hear he had dental too
<12> I think the point was that saddam had a huge police force before the US dismissed them all and now they are trying to return to a former level of authority.
<13> I just wish we had better war coverage on TV of Iraq. With more live video of guys driving around and war stuff.
<9> ebbtepid - i doubt there are many cultural and political revolutions happening aroudn the world as a result of Iraq. If you listen, the rest of the world is laughing. We're proving the exact opposite.
<4> The point is, Saddam held more control over that land and kept religious extremists in control better than america ever can there
<1> Saddam gave free health care AND dental.
<3> no, he didn't
<12> What did happend to all the embedded reports?
<13> Saddam rules!
<0> wife is obsessing over a failed dessert mix .. not time to barbecue yet
<3> you're sadly mistaken
<4> if our concern is our national security, then we are worse off now than before
<6> Bokavitch.... no he didn't
<2> BOK -- ya he just killed them all
<6> but then again, it was not in the news
<1> gloriae: no, you're mistaken.
<4> You're sadly naive gloriae
<6> again READ the Book Saddams Secrets
<5> steve--o_ focus on the middle east.. there are no thriving democracies there at all.. aghanistan and iraq are totally new things
<1> Saddam removed people's teeth and limbs for free
<1> no charge
<7> In keeping with Hubbard's wishes, his body was cremated within twenty-four hours. There was no autopsy. But the coroner's report described the father of Scientology as in a state of decrepitude: unshaven, with long, thinning whitish-red hair and unkempt fingernails and toenails. In Hubbard's system was the anti-anxiety drug hydroxyzine (Vistaril), which several of his ***istants would later attest was only one of many psychiatric
<4> only areas he didn't control were kurdistan and a few small provinces
<6> oh never mind, he will never want to read facts.. what and I thinking
<9> Bokavitch - I agree with your point, which if I may restate, it was easier to contain one monster (which we did) instead of not containing thousands
<7> yep, a real 'god'.
<13> the deal is once enough people have died, we're stuck talking about what a great deal the Iraq war is. Otherwise all those people went to the grave for nothing. So rah rah rah.
<12> It doesn't matter sadaam broke some major rules and is out.
<4> Exactly Steve--o
<3> to this day, the islamist terrorists have killed more iraqis than anyone else since saddam
<1> Saddam must be reinstated
<3> and continue to kill more muslims than anyone else
<2> and now the al qaeda groups are attacking the saudi oil fields --
<13> Or we need a 'kinder gentler' Saddam that we can control better.
<14> saddam: fag.
<2> it all boils down to al qaeda groups --
<4> Yeah that is true, they are killing them, but they wouldn't have had the opportunity if we didn't leave the country in shambles
<0> sometimes to make progress you have to move through difficult times ... just because it was easier to "deal with" one madman doesn't mean it would stay that way, or that it was justified to perpetuate it
<13> maybe electronic Saddam.
<2> We haven't left Iraq yet...
<15> lol @ sktfm
<6> the only people hurt by sanctions were the iraqi people.. not saddam
<13> Tom Cruise, there's a plan.
<6> he was NOT contained
<1> yes, Iraq was much better off with Saddam
<16> Iran is doing this not Al-Qaida.
<1> free dental plan....
<9> well, lets hold on a second. the middle east's collective enemy is Israel, which we unilaterally support. We invade Afghanistan (justifiably), to very little to no backlash within the majority of the middle east. Had we stopped there, we may have made a point.
<7> Then she gets down to business and presents me with the $100 Dianetics "starter" kit, which includes a large-type copy of Hubbard's tome, a few CDs and some workbooks to practice the stuff at home. "It's really such a good thing you came in," Laurie adds re***uringly. "You'll see."
<1> free rape rooms
<3> no, Bokavitch, that was happening before 9/11
<3> nothing to do with us foreign policy
<4> Saddam didn't have ICBM's or a Navy or a deathwish, he was NOT going to attack the US
<16> Iran has the correct timing and no how to do anything on the Mosques.
<16> no = know
<1> that's right. Saddam was great.
<4> worst thing he could do is hit Israel
<13> Yeah iran. sure
<16> Iran wants Iraq to be in Civil War.
<1> well, who cares about Israel.
<16> so we can't attack Iran.
<9> recall that post 9/11, we had the support of the entire world. think about that, the support of the entire world. who supports us now? how many allies do we have in Iraq? ever read foreign news to see what the views of our administration are?
<2> bok -- he just shot at our planes -- right, just violated all sanctions, wanted to continue creating bio chem agents and other stuff... real cool guy you sseem to support
<13> Arabs don't need a war against Israel. They'll just out-populate the Jews, and they know this.
<0> Bokavitch; only in a very simplistic world view can you make the decision that simple
<6> we have 33 countries
<11> iran so far away
<4> I don't Support him, he is the lesser of two evils
<1> viva Saddam !
<0> Bokavitch: not a very strong argument
<6> and the US has NEVER had the support of the entire world
<16> Iran is backed by Syria cause the Biblical Prophecy is that Syria tries to take Iraq through Civil War.
<6> sheesh
<2> bok - no he is NOT the lesser of two evils --
<3> TimothyWT, think Iran thinks it can take over Iraq?
<0> Bokavitch: there were not and ARE not only two choices
<13> Biblical Prophecy?
<16> ke6i : yes
<3> sure, I can see how the Irani regime might have wet dreams about controlling what is now iraq, syria, etc
<3> a greater panislamic state or something
<13> Far as I know -- Buddha never mentioned Syria.
<3> in their dreams, to be sure
<4> My dear god, i can't understand half the people on in this channel, Iraq was NOT good for the US national security
<17> gloriae...if a civil war erupts in Iraq...they will no longer be wet dreams
<0> gloriae: but no one RATIONAL can expect to "control" any part of the middle east
<7> And then there are Scientology's rules. A fiercely doctrinaire religion, Scientology follows Hubbard's edicts to the letter. Dissent or opposition to any of Hubbard's views isn't tolerated. Nor is debating certain church tenets -- a practice Scientologists view as "counterintentioned
<16> gloriae : yes Iran can take over Iraq but the Grand Maryja would be then Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei not Sistani.
<15> twobar, lets have gun chats
<3> OcDoc: who said the Irani regime is rational?
<18> Bokavitch, sure it is.
<4> if anything Iran, N. Korea, those were far greater threats
<0> Twobar: what got you started on this
<15> im thinking about getting a new gun
<15> ruger 22
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