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<0> Carlos Castenda is wierder than revelantions :)
<1> then..you trash and discredit the female...so as to promote the male..
<2> But I thought the Catholic Church ***erts that Christ was BOTH fully devine and fully human
<1> Christianity in base form is Patriarchal
<3> GregE: Just outside Argos (SW Greece)
<2> I seem to recall there was a lot of stuff about Mary (his mother) that was left out because it appeared to cast her in too large of a role
<1> Katey..he was born to the Humas to save them form their sin
<2> and smacked of witchcraft
<4> Don Juan Valdez.... true spirituality is in ...the beans
<1> but he was always divine and above mans shortcomings
<0> ha
<0> I thought it was in the peyote
<1> Gaean religions and equiv...Matriarchal
<4> indeed. Apollonian Patriarchy vs Dyonisian Matriarchy
<1> in essence...is Catholicism a con job?
<5> Actually
<5> Come to think of it
<4> interestingly, the ancient Druidic traditions of Gaul were Matriarchal
<5> Gospel of Thomas was written in the same language as Gospel of Judas
<6> Enron founder Lay was convicted Thursday on all six counts against him in the corporate trial. Former Chief Executive Skilling was convicted on 19 of the 28 counts, including one count of insider trading, and acquitted on the remaining nine.
<1> Considering Constantine and the power he wielded...it is plausible
<5> on the same papyrus
<6> man
<5> discovered in the same place
<5> ...
<1> Druids were matriachal.....
<1> Earth Mommy
<4> Herzen as was for example, several of the survivng episles of Paul
<6> heheh Lay better get used to calling his new wife "Bubba"
<4> yep
<5> but the Gospel of Thomas isn't particularily credible
<1> 426...EnronPark: They Convicted Kenny!
<4> we should celibrate Queen Bodicca Day
<4> Herzen why?
<1> Boadicea
<6> hahaha Those Bastards!
<0> later all going to go make all the final selections in my new house that I will live with for the next X number of years
<1> wished I was at that stage
<4> it is actually older physically then several "caon" texts such as the oldest extant copy of Revelations
<5> pilgrim`, A) Its late, B) Its gnostic and from one of the fringes of the early church, and C) Parts of it are inconsistant with the rest of the texts
<4> read James Pritchard. his scholarship on this issue is quite informative
<1> heh Jesus descendants around today.....that would play hell with Xtianity lol
<4> Herzen at Nicea several texts were deemed inconsistent for pressing political reasons. texts that agre with Thomas
<4> fringes? look at the Nestorian Gosples
<1> pilgrim...text that was....modified? :)
<4> specifically texts foudn recently in some Chinese desert outposts
<1> pilgrim...when were those found?
<4> Cry I like to stay breathing, I woudl not suggest that
<4> 1973 as I recall
<1> stay breathing?
<4> Christains tend to loose rationality when ti comes to a question of the authenticity of their text
<1> hey..a good religious upheaval can be illuminating
<6> pilgrim yeh but thats the thing
<6> christianity keeps getting questioned all over the place
<4> one of my nacestors did not "stay breathing"
<6> if they made a movie about Mohammed
<1> pilgrim...why do you think only the anthros have access to the gospel texts at this time?
<6> Islam would go freakin NUTS
<1> 4226...they should
<1> Re-enact Tours
<6> well thats the thing, people know Christianity will "turn the other cheek"
<4> Cry int he past, it was not fires of faith but actual firss that were fed by conflicting knowledge
<1> jihad jihad jihad....oops...these soldiers are wearing platemail
<1> the scientists validated the material upon which the text was written
<4> Mathew Hopkins may thou rot in hell
<1> chem analysis of ink....
<1> and yer right Pilgrim...the Gospel of Judas is authentic
<1> I think it also predated Nicea
<4> Cry I have seen pictures of good enough resolution of the fragments. I am convinced
<6> I saw the Gospel of Judas documentary, i personally think its authentic
<1> until thaey fully validate the item..no holy roller is goona touch it
<4> what I woudl like to get is facimilies of the document
<7> `426-Hemi: I am currently making a cartoon series of muhammed
<6> we have to remember there are lots of gospels that haven't been included
<5> CryArvach, eh, main churches are gonna reject it
<6> in fact there was other bibles
<1> face it..the church can not be trusted with something like this
<4> Rusty I ...ahem...have....some interesting texts in my library
<1> no church can
<5> CryArvach, My church especially is pretty anal about texts, almost as much as Catholics
<1> Herzen...precisely
<5> CryArvach, and some of the whacko fringe churches will accept it
<4> at one time I collected holy books
<5> but eh who ares about them
<6> niiiice pilgrim
<4> I colelct many things
<1> thus..the anthros and archaes and other scientists have the gospel
<6> heheh did you ever wake up in the morning and see some of them burned because they were fighting amongst each other ? ;)
<5> CryArvach, eh let everyone take a look at it, is what i'm saying
<6> or flung off their shelves hehhehe
<1> Herzen...in time.....
<5> scientists are gonna look at it and stupid athiests are gonna jump all over it and be annoying
<5> yeesh
<1> if the scientists validate the scroll first using objective methods...
<1> the the church or equiv will not be able to effect spin
<6> but there used to be "IIRC" like nearly 400 different books and 3 different bibles
<4> faith and rationality make for a difficult relationship
<1> 426...heh sworrds prob settled that
<5> They validated the gospel of thomas and that went nowhere with mainstream population
<6> then that byzantian guy or whoever, finally put them all into one book
<1> I am a Cathar!!....ohoh...POGROM!!!!!
<6> disgarded ones that weren't "relevant" in their opinions
<1> and did their best to destroy any they found
<6> yeap
<1> but oops....
<1> Coptics and equiv were not stupid
<6> i got into a HUGE HUGE arguement with my mom about this ****
<5> I wonder if anymore people from my old church stoned gays
<6> its part of the reason we aren't talking anymore
<5> lately
<8> `426-Hemi: about what?
<6> to this day she thinks God is the editor and writer of the bible
<6> heh
<1> Homo***uals were stuffed way back in the closet in the olden days
<4> pic is too damn big (240k), resolution lousy, and the link is slow but http://www.syndicomm.com/~pilgrimer/pics/house/library2.jpg
<4> that is my library
<6> i was like Mom, you can not simply excuse the corruption of man and their interests in editing the bible
<1> cool pilgrim :)
<5> CryArvach, We still don't let em have their god damned parades
<1> I will have one like that at some point...wehn I have space
<1> yes Herzen...
<6> i have often wondered if Jesus ever wrote any books=)
<4> he did not
<6> or kept his own diary
<1> but they no longer burn them at the stake either
<6> pilgrim well none that we know of
<5> no, we just throw bottles and rocks at them
<5> =)
<4> Cry no, but they get fired from jobs
<8> he may have been illiterate
<5> pilgrim`, maybe they shouldn't broadcast it to everyone and their dog
<1> Kiteracy was a luxury back then
<4> no
<1> Literacy
<5> why the hell do they have to have a parade coz their homos anyways?
<6> i would think there has to be someone if not jesus himself being such a great orator at some point MUSt have written some of this down
<4> Herzen I am a pagan. should I whisper it?
<1> 426..no reason for him to be literate
<6> Cry, i also hold the theory that Jesus built his own cross
<6> well i disagree
<5> pilgrim`, Well I certainly wouldn't expect you to be taken as credible after announcing it in a room of Christians
<6> he had to be literate
<1> not necessarily
<4> in Mathew he writes int eh sand....probably in aramaic it was lingua franca of that place and that time
<6> carpenters have to be able to write
<1> maybe some of his cohort were
<4> Herzen I am not ina room of christians, and I am somewhat credible
<1> not necessarily 426
<6> i would think that a carpenter would have to be able to write=)
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